Port Power- A Club Devoid Of Leadership

[BWST]

Really you do talk a lot of rot at times relapse.

Let me hip you to the facts.

Wangas was close to quitting at the end of the 2005 season but Choco persuaded him to play on for another year. It was the club that pushed him into playing on and like a true servant he did.

When injury got the better of him he announced his retirement in June of the following year. He didn't hang on and on.

Once he'd quit, the club elevated one of the players off our rookie list.

Unlike "Nellie Melba" Ricciuto, Wangas had one press conference only to announce the end of his playing career. His retirement wasn't turned into a media circus and the farce of a farewell parade followed by yet more sub par games from the wannabe premiership captain.

relapse is owned

 

[sworc36]

Really you do talk a lot of rot at times relapse.

Let me hip you to the facts.

Wangas was close to quitting at the end of the 2005 season but Choco persuaded him to play on for another year. It was the club that pushed him into playing on and like a true servant he did.

When injury got the better of him he announced his retirement in June of the following year. He didn't hang on and on.

Once he'd quit, the club elevated one of the players off our rookie list.

Unlike "Nellie Melba" Ricciuto, Wangas had one press conference only to announce the end of his playing career. His retirement wasn't turned into a media circus and the farce of a farewell parade followed by yet more sub par games from the wannabe premiership captain.

Wanganneen was a crap captain. At least the Roo was a brilliant at captaining his club, gaining the respect of all his players...in fact such a great leader he was named captain of the AA side how many times.

 

[Port85]

wanganeen? isn't this thread about current leadership?

 

[ams4crows]

remind me again how often the full back kicks more goals playing on the Full forward than the full forward himself?

 

[PAVnTAZ]

Geez you Crows guys really do hate Port. There you go, common ground.

 

[sworc36]

wanganeen? isn't this thread about current leadership?

Perhaps you should tell your playmate Toots that.

 

[sworc36]

Think before you post.

Ricciuto's action at this point was self indulgent, hitting out in frustration. That lack of discipline would have caused him to be rubbed out just like his lack of discipline against West Coast caused him to be absent from the choke against the Saints. Was it his intention to get rubbed out? Of course not. It's just ironic that his selfishness in exacting revenge on his opponent would have thwarted his selfish desire to play on when not fit.

Here it is again btw:-

Intentional, late, high, medium impact. Prior record.

Talking about selfishness Toots, most AFL supporters would think that your whole team is selfish after your insipid performannce GF day.....any other team would have put in a better performance than your useless lot did.

 

[FlyingCrow]

Talking about selfishness Toots, most AFL supporters would think that your whole team is selfish after your insipid performannce GF day.....any other team would have put in a better performance than your useless lot did.

The only other team to lose by more to the Cats in 07 was Richmond....

 

[Slammer]

The only other team to lose by more to the Cats in 07 was Richmond....

Flying Cow....the obsession continues!

On and on and on....!

 

[KingsCrow]

Think before you post.

Ricciuto's action at this point was self indulgent, hitting out in frustration. That lack of discipline would have caused him to be rubbed out just like his lack of discipline against West Coast caused him to be absent from the choke against the Saints. Was it his intention to get rubbed out? Of course not. It's just ironic that his selfishness in exacting revenge on his opponent would have thwarted his selfish desire to play on when not fit.

Here it is again btw:-

Intentional, late, high, medium impact. Prior record.

lol. He tries to spoil the ball an gets the guy in the noggon. You think its intentional, then your quite simply deluded. His intention is to spoil the ball...why the hell would he want to punch a bloke in the head? Go on try me.

 

[Stronzo]

 

[Macca19]

I believe Port losing margins were by an average of about 42 points last year....

We only lost two games by more than 40 points, both to Geelong. The average obviously boosted by the GF loss, take it away and its 30 points, hardly ground breakingly bad now is it.

You also realise that Port had a higher losing margin in 2004 than it did in both 2007 and 2006.

So what does it mean?

Jack shit!

 

[relapse]

Think before you post.

Ricciuto's action at this point was self indulgent, hitting out in frustration. That lack of discipline would have caused him to be rubbed out just like his lack of discipline against West Coast caused him to be absent from the choke against the Saints. Was it his intention to get rubbed out? Of course not. It's just ironic that his selfishness in exacting revenge on his opponent would have thwarted his selfish desire to play on when not fit.

Here it is again btw:-

Intentional, late, high, medium impact. Prior record.

I thought long and hard before I posted, but all I can ascertain about your posts is that you are just rambling throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks.

You are now on your third attempt to try and claim that Roo was selfish. First it was by playing in that game, then it was because he was playing only to be a premiership captain and now he is supposedly selfish on your third attempt trying to claim his spoil was self indulgent.

I love how you throw something out there like "didnt you think before you posted", yet you fail to comprehend that your current argument totally contradicts your previous one. If his one motivation was to be a captain on GF day then wouldnt he would do whatever he could to ensure that happened??? It just doesnt make sense that you claim he was selfish because being a premiership captain was his only motivation and now try and claim he is selfish because you claim he lashed out in frustruation and possibly faced a suspension and jeapardise what you previously claimed was his only motivation that just doesnt make logical sense.

Toots the more you clasp at straws, the more your argument just falls to pieces. Maybe try sticking to one aspect instead of trying to change the goal posts constantly.

I think you lost your edge during your "hiatus".

 

[portentous]

Gotta feel sorry for Flying Crow as he's obviously got nothing to look forward to at West Lakes or he wouldn't be starting all these anti-Port threads.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Relapse, way back in this thread you said this:- "The fact is that both players final games were achievement games and the correlation between the 2 are blatantly obvious to everyone, both players arguably shouldnt have played those games but both arguably did so to achieve something".

That's you acknowledging that Ricciuto played his last game for personal glory. What was the personal glory he was after? One last desperate attempt to be a premiership captain. You've said yourself he shouldn't have played.

Conclusion:- Selfishness on the part of the Roo and weakness on the part of the coach.

(As for Wangas you don't seem to realise that he continued playing football after he got to 300 games and only retired after getting a knee injury that was going to put him out of the game for 8 weeks)

 

[benpower]

Dont you mean to say that they Port dont have those headlines because they have a mole in the media to supress or deflect that type of publicity. Remember how the Tredrea one vote for captain incident went by unreported in the media in Adelaide, yet if that happened at the AFC Rucci would have been over it in a second.

If it went unreported, how do you "know" about it? Probably because it isn't true, and some loser with nothing better to do than bag a club, they apparently dont care about, made it up.

 

[benpower]

For what its worth, Most Port supporters are rapt Tredrea is Captain, as he generally plays very good football when given the responsibility
And i would say, with the way Riccuito couldn't lead his club much last year due to injury, Port dont want the same thing to happen with Tredrea. Although it can't be guaranteed, he has not put a foot wrong so far in the Pre season.
And dont turn this around and think I;m bagging Roo at all, he was for a very long time a great captain, probably the best player over the last 10 years in the AFL, but in hindsight, he shouldn't have captained Adelaide last year due to Injury, although he is cleasrly the best leader.
Port are just trying to make sure Tredarea is injury free, as if he is he's an excellent captain.
But I am sure if you ever watch football you would know this, but as always these threads are basically, " I barrick for Adelaide, and hate Port, so what can i think of the have a crack at them about". And it happens Vice versa, i guess this is why i haven't been on here for a few months.

 

[relapse]

If it went unreported, how do you "know" about it? Probably because it isn't true, and some loser with nothing better to do than bag a club, they apparently dont care about, made it up.

Yep in melbourne where the Power have almost a zero interest level, the reporter just totally fabricates a story about Port, yeah that makes real sense. Just because Rucci decided not to write about for obvious reasons doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Dont be so gullible McFly.

 

[benpower]

Yep in melbourne where the Power have almost a zero interest level, the reporter just totally fabricates a story about Port, yeah that makes real sense. Just because Rucci decided not to write about for obvious reasons doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Dont be so gullible McFly.

Being gullible is believing everything you read in the Paper.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

The fact you've chosen to recycle this bit of poppycock is testimony to the fact you've been exposed regarding the selfishness of Ricciuto in his last match.

The player who supposedly made this allegation has denied making it.

 

[relapse]

The fact you've chosen to recycle this bit of poppycock is testimony to the fact you've been exposed regarding the selfishness of Ricciuto in his last match.

The player who supposedly made this allegation has denied making it.

Nah I was bringing up the fact that Port have a mole in the media and as for the player, I thought it was alledged that Clarkson was the one that spoke about it????

I would have thought a thread about Port and leadership that the Primus Tredrea vote would have been very applicable to it and lets not also forget I mentioned it long before the whole Roo angle was started. Its Benpower that has only just decided to bring it up again to which I responded.

How could bringing that up have anything to do conceeding with Roo when I mentioned it long before it turned into a Roo thread ??

Toots it's really you isnt it ???

 

[jack_lord]

Warren Tredrea not good enough to have a contract longer than a year, at age 29, yet good enough to be the club captain.

After witnessing Port Leadership group and their pea sized hearts on Grand Final day is Wazza the only real leader sown at Alberton?


Me thinks so........


Leaders steer the ship not only through good times but challenge the others to better efforts when the chips are down. Something Ports "leaders" can NOT do. When Port lose they lose ugly. I sure sign of a lack of real Leadership.

Good Luck Wazza.

Port have a lot more potential leaders than Tredrea. We've got Kane Cornes who showed great leadership qualities last year. Don't forget Michael Wilson despite the fact that he is injured. Also Lade has always been a leader a bit of a go-to guy for the younger players. I wouldn't say that Port is "Devoid of leadership" in any way.

 

[Coobk001]

Warren Tredrea not good enough to have a contract longer than a year, at age 29, yet good enough to be the club captain.

After witnessing Port Leadership group and their pea sized hearts on Grand Final day is Wazza the only real leader sown at Alberton?


Me thinks so........


Leaders steer the ship not only through good times but challenge the others to better efforts when the chips are down. Something Ports "leaders" can NOT do. When Port lose they lose ugly. I sure sign of a lack of real Leadership.

Good Luck Wazza.

You do realise Tredrea is 30

 

[Coobk001]

For what its worth, Most Port supporters are rapt Tredrea is Captain, as he generally plays very good football when given the responsibility
And i would say, with the way Riccuito couldn't lead his club much last year due to injury, Port dont want the same thing to happen with Tredrea. Although it can't be guaranteed, he has not put a foot wrong so far in the Pre season.
And dont turn this around and think I;m bagging Roo at all, he was for a very long time a great captain, probably the best player over the last 10 years in the AFL, but in hindsight, he shouldn't have captained Adelaide last year due to Injury, although he is cleasrly the best leader.
Port are just trying to make sure Tredarea is injury free, as if he is he's an excellent captain.
But I am sure if you ever watch football you would know this, but as always these threads are basically, " I barrick for Adelaide, and hate Port, so what can i think of the have a crack at them about". And it happens Vice versa, i guess this is why i haven't been on here for a few months.

Riccuto is the most overrated footballer to ever play in south australia.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

How could bringing that up have anything to do conceeding with Roo when I mentioned it long before it turned into a Roo thread ??

Toots it's really you isnt it ???

OK, I'll concede that point. Now you can get back to explaining why it is that you acknowledged that Ricciuto's last game was an "achievement game" and he shouldn't have played yet you deny that he was being selfish in declaring himself fit to play and his coach was weak to pick him.

BTW the players have just voted for Tredrea to skipper the side again this year and the club has ratified the decision. That is fact not unsourced scuttlebut.