Port requests for Gold Coast to change home guernsey

[CrowsB4hoes]

Seems to me like Port brought Gold Coast along as their wingman, but the Suns are going home with the girl.

 

[ManOfClay]

Seems to me like Port brought Gold Coast along as their wingman, but the Suns are going home with the girl.

And boy are port Adelaide pissed off. Carrying on and ruining their chances with any other girl in the vicinity

 

[marty36]

Port are absolutely on the right track with this, I have worked very closely in the engagement of Chinese communities in Sydney for the past few years. It's a market of great potential? The Chinese being very loyal and very superstitious people.

Unfortunately it seems like a rushed process just to be the first ones there, they'd announced the game before they had a ground or an opponent. Find a ground and an opponent then make the announcement.

The initial contract was hastily drawn up once with the AFL's help they found an opponent, the haste to get over the line left somethings out of it. Unfortunately for port part of this was the Guernsey.

Even if it was to be classed as a port home game, it would not matter as under league rules the Gold Coast would not be required to wear their clash strip.

Hopefully for ports sake the Chinese don't jump too much on the Gold Coast due to their red colour, but from my experience they will. I actually hope port do well out of this, a strong port is good for the competition.

I agree the Chinese will find the GC colors more to their suiting and yrs having been there a few times would agree.

The only clubs that would have been prepared to go to China we're GC and GWS partially because the AFL control the purse strings there.

GWS may have considered it if they were sitting in the bottom 10 but with them being a premiership threat they would have rocks in their head to do anything to jeopardize that. And now with Western bulldogs sitting up the top they are on the same position. So to lose advantage on one of your home games it simply wouldn't be an option and the consequences of the trip and the affect it could have on the players if your team has a chance at the flag

If Adelaide, Collingwood or West Coast were in ports position I would think most of their supporters would be dark on their club to in anyway disrupt their season for the sake of $$$.

The only reason we have the clubs involved that are is due to the AfL's control over these financially struggling clubs, Port are controlled by the AFL as we'll with the AFL guaranteeing their debts with the recent buy back of the licence from the SANFL

It's effectively an AFL run venture and they will decide who goes and how it is done.

I could actually see the GC playing 4 or 5 games a year in china all as home games if the Queensland experiment doesn't move forward, the AFL aren't going to through good money after bad. Maybe Queensland can only support 1 team! Leigh Matthews thinks so. Who knows more to play out over the years on this one, but the AFL will be the ones making the decisions and calling the shots

 

[FootyJunkie]

I request that Port wear their prison bars.

 

[ManOfClay]

The port experts like Janus still can't get their head around simple facts like the home team doesn't dictate what colours the opposition wears.

Long diatribes about gcs' sponsorship contributions to the venture don't apply. If port see Guernsey colour as an issue then they've cocked this up

And I see from the safety of the port board this still goes on.

The club is always right I guess

 

[Sassermon]

Get a ******* life...

Man of clay is right. The port board is full of people saying that the Gold Coast is being dodgy or trying to take something that belongs to Port when the simple fact of the matter is Gold Coast are doing what any team would do and what they are entitled to do according to the rules of the league. No club has the right to dictate their oppositions uniform, GC and Port have never played in their clash strips because they dont clash and Port buying the home game from GC is the only reason Port are able to play over there in the first place.

 

[bomberclifford]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

 

[marty36]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

Richmond should never have been allowed to do that, two wrongs dont make a right. Someone effed up when that happened, dont let it happen again. Even your complaining about that instance so dont be a hypocrite.

 

[Pessimistic]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

Because theres no clash? What port are effectively saying is their colours and branding dont cut it anywhere outside alberton. but its crazy to expect everyone else to adopt worse colours

 

[FootyJunkie]

Port can request a lot of things... like joining the AFL in 1990, didn't happen

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

Because Port isn't the AFL.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Because Port isn't the AFL.

it's the SANFL, should still be playing out at Footy Park because it's close to Port Adelaide

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

port should have had it's clash strip decision privileges taken away the day this happened.

 

[Suma Magic]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

If the AFL is going to rule on commercial interest it will allow the red guernsey as that will maximise commercial return for the venture.

 

[telsor]

Was there this much outrage when Port were told by the AFL to wear their clash strip in a well-earned home elimination final because the TV execs wanted Richmond in their traditional guernsey?

That situation worked out well for us in the end but the AFL basically overruled our home game 'rights' in favour of a commercial interest.

Why is this situation any different?

Firstly, that wasn't the reason with the Port v Richmond game...it was that the Richmond clash strip was considered to still clash (which was stupid for a number of reasons, but anyway...)

Secondly, Port isn't the AFL...Port signed a deal whereby GC signed over certain things in return for $500K...Changing their jumper wasn't one of those things.

If Port wants GC to sign over additional things, like them wearing their clash jumper, then (as will probably happen) Port will need to fork over more money. Considering GC has you over a barrel here, it'll probably be a LOT more money.

 

[marty36]

If the AFL is going to rule on commercial interest it will allow the red guernsey as that will maximise commercial return for the venture.

Good point, its in the best interests to get as many following the game as possible, to put a team in a Red jumper will certainly get a few extra punters along and maybe give them some ownership in the experiment!

 

[Randomizor]

Are port not being a little patronizing here? Implying that the Chinese will not be able to make a reasoned decision on a team to follow but will just follow the familiar colors?

If a US team comes over here and plays in green and gold are we just going to support them against their opposition because "Australians like those colours"?

 

[bomberclifford]

If the AFL is going to rule on commercial interest it will allow the red guernsey as that will maximise commercial return for the venture.

That's not what I'm hearing.

 

[Suma Magic]

That's not what I'm hearing.

Source/rationale?

 

[bomberclifford]

Firstly, that wasn't the reason with the Port v Richmond game...it was that the Richmond clash strip was considered to still clash (which was stupid for a number of reasons, but anyway...)

Are you sure about that? You ended up wearing your clash anyway but the way I understood the original directive was that Channel 7 wanted your traditional jumper. I'm only going from memory though. I do know that Richmond were a little embarrassed by the directive and approached Port with some compromise solutions at the time, which was good to hear.

Secondly, Port isn't the AFL...Port signed a deal whereby GC signed over certain things in return for $500K...Changing their jumper wasn't one of those things.

I wasn't suggesting that Port is the AFL but this venture is clearly in the best interests of the AFL. My hunch is that the agreement has a technical loophole in that it specifies an away strip, but GC home and away guernsey is virtually identical apart from sponsor placement. What Port should have asked for is the clash guernsey.

If Port wants GC to sign over additional things, like them wearing their clash jumper, then (as will probably happen) Port will need to fork over more money. Considering GC has you over a barrel here, it'll probably be a LOT more money.

From what I'm hearing, I think you're right. There's too much at stake to let this derail the promotion of the game.

There is a reason that Koch is being so loud on this and it's got nothing to do with how many punters in the stand will be wearing red and yellow. It's all about the Chinese corporate partners who have already signed on to sponsor the game and the PAFC.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Teams should only wear a clash guernsey is there is an actual clash. Situations like the Hawks v Freo Grand Final wear the Dockers we're inexplicably asked to wear their away strip don't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[bomberclifford]

Source/rationale?

A business contact who is involved in the venture but not part of Port Adelaide FC.

 

[marty36]

Are port not being a little patronizing here? Implying that the Chinese will not be able to make a reasoned decision on a team to follow but will just follow the familiar colors?

If a US team comes over here and plays in green and gold are we just going to support them against their opposition because "Australians like those colours"?

Probably would get a few extra going that way, which its why its a great idea to have it, it may spark more interest in the game , isnt that what the AFL is after

 

[radiojake]

Situations like the Hawks v Freo Grand Final wear the Dockers we're inexplicably asked to wear their away strip don't make any sense whatsoever.

They got told to wear white shorts, but we able to wear purple jumper

But Freo consider their strips as full kits, so went with the white kit if they couldn't wear purple shorts

 

[Suma Magic]

A business contact who is involved in the venture but not part of Port Adelaide FC.

But why would GC wearing a white top make it a more successful venture overall for the afl?