Port requests for Gold Coast to change home guernsey

[telsor]

Our contract says we can't move a home game. I'm sure we would if we could.

So Port made a commitment that it wasn't in it's power to fulfill.

Yeah, nothing can go wrong with that...

 

[Elite Crow]

Kochie's main argument is that it was in the contract. If it can clearly be stated that it was or wasn't then this will be over. Personally sick of the (mostly) Essendon and Hawthorn fans who keep going "lol poort keep crying, kochie's a ****head, go gold coaste" etc. really to just get at the nerves of Port fans when we're making heaps of legroom for everyone else.

It's clearly not in the contract otherwise the Gold Coast wouldn't say it isn't.

KT the other day was back-pedalling from this claim.

You guys ****ed this part up and you are wanting the AFL to save your arse because of your incompetence.

 

[Elite Crow]

Playing against the suns was always going to cause problems for Port, even if they wore away gear, just being the Suns is likely to make them a more attractive team to support than Power, the jumper f@#k up just makes it worse.
Lets be honest who would the AFL rather see succeed in China, a club they pretty much own and run or Power?

And who can China relate to? One of their favourite tourist destinations or Port? Kochie on a number of times have said they wouldn't have a clue who Port are.

 

[yodellinhank]

You guys ****** this part up and you are wanting the AFL to save your arse because of your incompetence.

again

 

[johnnypanther]

Our contract says we can't move a home game. I'm sure we would if we could.

I'm sure that you wouldn't

(Footy Park had similar contract and you moved your home game from there to AO a few seasons back)
Stop hiding behind the veil of the "contract"

 

[footyfan1978]

The whining from some, is as Bruce might say, "Delicious".
Bet on Red!

 

[Janus]

Playing against the suns was always going to cause problems for Port, even if they wore away gear, just being the Suns is likely to make them a more attractive team to support than Power, the jumper f@#k up just makes it worse.
Lets be honest who would the AFL rather see succeed in China, a club they pretty much own and run or Power?

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

 

[Hawthorn United]

Does anyone thing Chinese locals give a shit about this game?

Gonna be plenty of empty seats. Maybe Suns should wear away colours so long as Port bring out the tarps!!

I spent all of Tuesday at work, was a quiet day, trying to find Shanghai sites that may be promoting the game to locals or tourists. I couldn't find anything. Maybe I needed to find a chinese site rather than one in english.

Only sites that was promoting it was Australian domains offering travel packages.

It seems more a game created to bring Aussie tourists to Shanghai, than exposing locals to AFL.

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[Lance Uppercut]

Kochie's main argument is that it was in the contract. If it can clearly be stated that it was or wasn't then this will be over. Personally sick of the (mostly) Essendon and Hawthorn fans who keep going "lol poort keep crying, kochie's a ****head, go gold coaste" etc. really to just get at the nerves of Port fans when we're making heaps of legroom for everyone else.

There there

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ha ha only took the second paragraph to go to 'ignorant and arrogant'

And .. "theres a pattern emerging here ".....s******..

Yawn
Your whole post was based on me not knowing Gold Coasts's colours

When I had already posted it was rather that I didn't care

Because Gold Coast will only be one of 16 others that Port will play over the next 10 years..

No chance the Crows or the high membership clubs are going to move a home game to China to play Port.

The option of clubs for Port is very limited, so Kochie's 1 year threat to the Suns over the jumper may mean he has no other takers next year...

 

[Lance Uppercut]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

Can you email this to David Koch c/o the Port Adelaide Football club and ask him to stop issuing lame threats then?

 

[dickballsack]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

No it's a meaningless game only played because the afl allowed port to stop the bleeding of a club that has lost around $7m over the last 9 years. If the afl cared about china in terms of growth and revenue opportunities they would've done a deal themselves but this helps their port headache in the short term. Koch has made a $3m sponsorship deal with a billionaire Chinese property developer that he's done business with in the past. Nothing wrong with that, but this is an agreement that just helps one club and has nothing to do with growing the game. They know it, clubs know it and all categorically made it clear they were not interested in playing. Apparently the billionaire chinaman is upset about the fact that 'his' team is playing in the country ( stature is a massive thing in Chinese culture for the wealthy) will be playing against a team wearing china colours. So to summarise port organised a meaningless game for desperate cash, an unwilling party has had to agree per the afl and now they want to change a non clash strip for another meaningless reason.

 

[The_Wookie]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

Koch started the overplaying. Not us.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

If you think the Chinese have an affinity for ANY AFL club - including yours, you are mistaken.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

Thats a bold statement. If the AFL doesnt want omething, it wont happen.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

Is it now.

 

[Tiger2709]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

AFL runs the show, so unless Power are planning a breakaway comp you play where and who the AFL say.

 

[Elite Crow]

Koch started the overplaying. Not us.



If you think the Chinese have an affinity for ANY AFL club - including yours, you are mistaken.



Thats a bold statement. If the AFL doesnt want omething, it wont happen.



Is it now.

The thing is, Kochie has already on a number of occasions stated that the Chinese couldnt give a stuff about Port, they don't know who they are.

As for Janus, don't take what he posts on the subject seriously. Only a week ago he was adamant this was all for show to build up interest and then they would both release commerative guernseys.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

The Suns will win big by wearing their home colours, as they rightfully are allowed to do.
The Chinese are very patriotic and any of the locals watching the game will be all over GC and as you said will mean sponsorship dollars.
If you think that's not an issue for Port than you're blinded by your biased support for them.
That's the only reason Port have gone to China, for the dollar return. But it seems they've stuffed up big time by allowing the Suns to connect with 1 Billion patriotic and traditional locals.
That's why Kochies losing the plot, he knows he's ****ed up !!

 

[marty36]

The Suns will win big by wearing their home colours, as they rightfully are allowed to do.
The Chinese are very patriotic and any of the locals watching the game will be all over GC and as you said will mean sponsorship dollars.
If you think that's not an issue for Port than you're blinded by your biased support for them.
That's the only reason Port have gone to China, for the dollar return. But it seems they've stuffed up big time by allowing the Suns to connect with 1 Billion patriotic and superstitious locals.
That's why Kochies losing the plot, he knows he's ****** up !!

Anyone that has done business in china know how fickle they are and how the goal posts move all the time! They do things for a reason and because of how corrupt their country, they do things for a reason ports initial sponsorship was no doubt there because of the Kidman property the sponsor clearly had no interest in football it was ulterior motives.

The venture may or may not work the red strip is definitely an advantage for any team as the Chinese are very gimmic driven and love that stuff. Will be interesting to see if it is accepted but for China to adopt a team is essential

Port completely effed up getting GC involved not do they only look like a Chinese national team, the Gold Coast would be the number one destination the Chinese would choose to holiday in Australia

But i don't think they chose GC, it would have been the only team willing to go, GWS and WB might have been but with premierships begging that would have been insane to sell a game

Kockie better keep his mouth shut or he will be playing Norwood in China next year if he doesn't want to play GC


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[JayJ20]

The club that has all the contacts in the Chinese government to facilitate AFL games being broadcast on Chinese TV and being played in Chinese schools. The club that has built up key relationships and partnerships with Chinese companies that other clubs can leverage to forge their own key relationships and partnerships.

That is, not the Suns.

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing. The only thing it does is cost us some commercial success through potential sponsorships, which is the only reason why it concerns us. Some of those who could potentially want to sponsor us might find supporting us over a team playing in red is inauspicious and be reluctant to do so if they follow Chinese tradition.

That doesn't mean that they will suddenly transfer those sponsorships/support over to Gold Coast, because while Chinese might know about Gold Coast as a tourist destination, they've got no affinity with Gold Coast as a football club and have built no relationships with them at all. GCFC is a business, not a place. And no one in China cares about the AFL enough to make the AFL House's opinion about who they would rather succeed worth anything.

So in conclusion - what the AFL wants is irrelevant. The Suns playing in China, irrelevant. The guernsey - relevant only in how much money it will potentially cost us commercially in the short term.

As our CEO has said, this game isn't even a central part of our strategy in China. It's a good showpiece and will accelerate growth, but the real work is happening elsewhere.

Koch is the one who massively overrated this jumper thing. His meltdowns and throwing public barbs at Gold Coast through the media to force them to change jumpers is what got the attention in the first place. Threatening Gold Coast and giving them "ultimatums" sounds like it is a massive problem for Port.

 

[yodellinhank]

Koch is the one who massively overrated this jumper thing. His meltdowns and throwing public barbs at Gold Coast through the media to force them to change jumpers is what got the attention in the first place. Threatening Gold Coast and giving them "ultimatums" sounds like it is a massive problem for Port.

He'd want to change his tune or Gold Coast won't have Port back again

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Anyone that has done business in china know how fickle they are and how the goal posts move all the time! They do things for a reason and because of how corrupt their country, they do things for a reason ports initial sponsorship was no doubt there because of the Kidman property the sponsor clearly had no interest in football it was ulterior motives.

The venture may or may not work the red strip is definitely an advantage for any team as the Chinese are very gimmic driven and love that stuff. Will be interesting to see if it is accepted but for China to adopt a team is essential

Port completely effed up getting GC involved not do they only look like a Chinese national team, the Gold Coast would be the number one destination the Chinese would choose to holiday in Australia

But i don't think they chose GC, it would have been the only team willing to go, GWS and WB might have been but with premierships begging that would have been insane to sell a game

Kockie better keep his mouth shut or he will be playing Norwood in China next year if he doesn't want to play GC


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That would be right. Playing the REDlegs next year.

 

[SUNS]

The first thread in the history of Bigfooty where most of the neutral posters are actually rooting for the SUNS?

People must really hate Port.

 

[Janus]

Koch is the one who massively overrated this jumper thing. His meltdowns and throwing public barbs at Gold Coast through the media to force them to change jumpers is what got the attention in the first place. Threatening Gold Coast and giving them "ultimatums" sounds like it is a massive problem for Port.

He wants maximum benefit for Port Adelaide since this is our baby - and fair enough. What has Gold Coast brought to the table to make this game a success? If they had contributed anything of notable value to the game other than a tenuous link to Tourism Australia and the gift of their presence - which we paid for - then I could understand why people are on their side. When Hawthorn/Melbourne move games I'm pretty sure they don't get paid by the opposition for the privilege of playing them.

The more people side with Gold Coast in this, the more I believe it's got nothing to do with any sense of "justice" or "fairness" and everything to do with a fear that Port might actually make this work.

 

[marty36]

The first thread in the history of Bigfooty where most of the neutral posters are actually rooting for the SUNS?

People must really hate Port.

Not really I hate port but I did state that the time Richmond got to wear their strip in that final it was absolutely the wrong decision it's pretty logical that there is no clash port want it for potential monetary reasons only. But will say it's all about the game

Common sense will prevail


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[Proper Gander]

He wants maximum benefit for Port Adelaide since this is our baby - and fair enough. What has Gold Coast brought to the table to make this game a success? If they had contributed anything of notable value to the game other than a tenuous link to Tourism Australia and the gift of their presence - which we paid for - then I could understand why people are on their side. When Hawthorn/Melbourne move games I'm pretty sure they don't get paid by the opposition for the privilege of playing them.

The more people side with Gold Coast in this, the more I believe it's got nothing to do with any sense of "justice" or "fairness" and everything to do with a fear that Port might actually make this work.

What Gold Coast have brought to the table is agreeing to play. This game doesn't happen without a home team.

I get what you are trying to say, but Koch isn't the greatest of communicators and he's reached a point of risking real damage to the brand over this issue. Claiming he can determine the future fixture is nonsense, and nothing about his carry-on suggests to me that any other team, even if previously inclined, will be prepared to participate.

 

[GreyCrow]

You lot are massively overrating this jumper thing.

Well actually it is your lot