Post here if your club has never had any player or coach that has been convicted of doping, racism or using homophobic slurs.

[Kabanna]

It's such a shame such a talented and gifted footballer has ruined his legacy and goodwill amongst supporters by being a toxic gasbag.

Indeed. I still remember the column he wrote telling gay AFL players to stay in the closet too. He should’ve been stopped from writing them well before that came out though!

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Note for anyone who wants to grill me for what I've just written I am just trying to answer the question.

Translation: I don’t stand for anything

 

[AvantGardener]

Translation: I don’t stand for anything

You can understand other peoples thoughts without agreeing with them.

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

OK apologist

 

[jannissary]

Yeah but he didn't mean "you are a disgusting homosexual you should be ashamed of yourself because of your sexual preferences. Your sexual preferences are wrong as is everyones that are homosexual"

He just meant 'You're annoying me so I'm going to say a random insult" or "You're soft /you're a loser"

Obviously theres the argument that the words still very much have their original meaning attached and have historically (and still currently in some contexts) are used in the 'you are a disgusting homoesexual' tone and do cause discomfort to people hearing those words which I don't want to get into that argument, but its very clear that a large portion of the time these words are just used as synonyms for soft / loser / lame / random insult.

tldr:
"i'm a flog and don't understand why something might offend someone"

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Also: I’m an apologist flog who thinks he’s a mind reader

 

[AvantGardener]

tldr:
"i'm a flog and don't understand why something might offend someone"

When did I say it wasnt offensive or that it was ok to say?

I literally started a fred during the week denouncing the players who have said this stuff. The AFLPA CEO said players need more education and I posted the fred saying thats bullshit and the players saying the word are dumb. Its dumb to be still be saying it because we know it causes hurt. Doesn't mean that was the players intention and that we accept it being said. But when a poster asked why they still say it I was just answering that bit

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Coming up next: ”Some of my best friends are…”

 

[jannissary]

When did I say it wasnt offensive or that it was ok to say?

I literally started a fred during the week denouncing the players who have said this stuff. The AFLPA CEO said players need more education and I posted the fred saying thats bullshit and the players saying the word are dumb. Its dumb to be still be saying it because we know it causes hurt. Doesn't mean that was the players intention and that we accept it being said. But when a poster asked why they still say it I was just answering that bit

you're trying to justify using a slur lol? just don't use it? idk it's not that hard personally (i've not used slurs in my life but i'm a #goodbloke)

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Meanwhile we have another Fred on the front page which is dedicated to Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

’s sexuality

 

[AvantGardener]

you're trying to justify using a slur lol? just don't use it? idk it's not that hard personally (i've not used slurs in my life but i'm a #goodbloke)

I'm not justifing it or saying its ok. The question was asked why people use it and its just my 2cents as to why some people use it.

 

[AvantGardener]

Meanwhile we have another Fred on the front page which is dedicated to Darcy Moore’s sexuality

Meanwhile you said AI got the name Emily wrong as Zackahs partner.

 

[AvantGardener]

The carryon in this fred is akin to trying to pin a murder on the prosecuting lawyer for stating the defendants motive.

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Meanwhile you said AI got the name Emily wrong as Zackahs partner.

Meanwhile his partner’s name isn’t Emily

Also zackah is here and in an ideal position to respond or chastise me if he doesn’t appreciate my comments

Darcy is not

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

you're trying to justify using a slur lol? just don't use it? idk it's not that hard personally (i've not used slurs in my life but i'm a #goodbloke)

Surely you must have called a classmate or something a baby when you were in primary school (which is probably offensive to the Infant community )

Happily we have pretty much got rid of religious and racial vilification in footy, alas Homophobia is still a problem in our game and culture (and one I still need to be more educated and up to date upon myself, even a sledge like player x etc wears a skirt, which alas I spent a part of my youth and adult years using, is not acceptable at all anymore)

I loved The Naked Gun and Hangover movies but those type of movies are not kosher anymore in today's more "progressive" society

I was reading that Australia has sadly a massive amount of LGBT youth with suicide and or mental health issues, and that should be reason enough for old school fans like myself to zip it and try me more considerate and less hurtful in banter/language in future.

People esp young people have every right to live life as their true authentic selves, be it in a gender or or sexual orientation thing (of both)

I had lie about my religious and racial background on my Mother's side during high school and later after when 9/11 happened.

For years it made me really resentful and bitter I had to lie about my background and forced to life a lie (of sorts)

Obviously it's not the same as what many young gay/trans kids face, but I definitely can empathise with their feelings of isolation and feeling like an outsider and not able to be who they want to be.

It's a very lonely and stressful place to be.

 

[zackah]

Meanwhile his partner’s name isn’t Emily

Also zackah is here and in an ideal position to respond or chastise me if he doesn’t appreciate my comments

Darcy is not

Or fredbant you

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Do your worst

 

[zackah]

Do your worst

waves wand

You are now an Essendon supporter

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

waves wand

You are now an Essendon supporter

Why not double up and Fred Bant Spreaders from this one? After all, his club fails to qualify for the criteria

 

[AvantGardener]

Meanwhile his partner’s name isn’t Emily

Also zackah is here and in an ideal position to respond or chastise me if he doesn’t appreciate my comments

Darcy is not

So random innacurate obviously fictional insults about peoples family are ok now? Got it flip flop!

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Fred banning

So random innacurate obviously fictional insults about peoples family are ok now?

Your moral outrage on zacakahs behalf is highly amusing, flog - please continue

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

Why not double up and Fred Bant Spreaders from this one

I already told him to do his worst

Fred banning for no good reason is an automatic MOTY nom

 

[zackah]

I already told him to do his worst

Fred banning for no good reason is an automatic MOTY nom

Think you have that well and truely wrapped up after last weekend

 

[Saveloy Rockstar]

If there’s an award for hanging shit on Essendong and Carltank after they lose then yes I have it in the bag, as your fredban melt proves

Meanwhile you would win MOTY hands down every year for eternity if you didn’t squib it

 

[zackah]

If there’s an award for hanging shit on Essendong and Carltank after they lose then yes I have it in the bag, as your fredban melt proves

Meanwhile you would win MOTY hands down every year for eternity if you didn’t squib it

Serious question, why don’t you just think of the full response you want to make before replying instead of editing every post you make? If your first effort is shit just own it