Training Pre Season ‘25

[THE_GUN]

I just don’t know why we even focus on ACL rehabbing players unless they’ve got near the 12 months and are not even running. Usually most ACL players take another year to get back into some type of form. Please don’t use Ashcroft as an example. He’s not the norm.

Why ?

Whats so special about his knee than any other players
does he have a unique DNA that heals better

 

[Bojangles17]

Don’t make too many comments, just enjoy all up your banter. Having said that I need to put my two bobs worth into the ACL talk. My son busted his ACL at 15 years old. Originally diagnosed with “just” a subluxed patella, he did about 6 weeks of rehab. Then at training in a warm up he changed direction and we heard the dreaded crack. We prayed it was his joint moving a bit but after a scan it was the big one. Not a shred of the bloody thing could be seen - as if it just exploded. Went to the surgeon who was a legend. He said he normally would not operate on a 15 year old straight away because the outcomes for kids are boosted by a period of “pre-hab” where the surrounding structures are strengthened to support the eventual rehabilitation process. Since he had done six weeks of painful, disciplined work he agreed to do the op. To cut a long story short the lad got to play open aged cricket 7 months later and footy training and playing 11 months later.

Hotton is younger than Gibcus (3 or 4 years is heaps at their age) so his prognosis will always be better than Gibcus, genetic issues notwithstanding. So comparing these lads is pointless. Also, depending on where the graft is harvested from, hamstrings (3 of them), patella tendon or cadaver donor (not sure if these are still done), the rate of recovery varies greatly. Seeing as Gibcus had horrendous hamstring issues leading up to his ACL, the hamstring option may not have been right for him. This may be why he is further back, combined with the comparative youth of the bloke some are comparing him to.

All our ACL blokes will have vastly different recoveries so we should chill a bit and let them get it done. Our new fitness bloke is certainly on the right track and his pre-hab approach in teaching young blokes running techniques and body development is certainly an improvement on what looked like a one size fits all approach of the past. Whilst not preventing ACL ruptures per-se, he is giving them a fighting chance in the expectation a certain percentage of these blokes will hit the dreaded jackpot. Genetic luck aside, this is about all anyone can do.

Good post buddy , I can see why u call yourself isolated , you stand out like a sore thumb making too much sense around here !

 

[Groupie_]

great to hear Judson is making progress towards the 25' season.
slow and steady rehab and then he's back adding more talent to our future roster.

still cant believe they sent him back on with an acl

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Hammer wasn’t great, but not in Tod Elton’s class.
If you had have said Cleve Hughes or Jayden Post , I’d have paid that!
KB was massive Post fan, had him penciled in as our long term chf.

Thats because Post ended up marrying KB's daughter didn't he!

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Don’t make too many comments, just enjoy all up your banter. Having said that I need to put my two bobs worth into the ACL talk. My son busted his ACL at 15 years old. Originally diagnosed with “just” a subluxed patella, he did about 6 weeks of rehab. Then at training in a warm up he changed direction and we heard the dreaded crack. We prayed it was his joint moving a bit but after a scan it was the big one. Not a shred of the bloody thing could be seen - as if it just exploded. Went to the surgeon who was a legend. He said he normally would not operate on a 15 year old straight away because the outcomes for kids are boosted by a period of “pre-hab” where the surrounding structures are strengthened to support the eventual rehabilitation process. Since he had done six weeks of painful, disciplined work he agreed to do the op. To cut a long story short the lad got to play open aged cricket 7 months later and footy training and playing 11 months later.

Hotton is younger than Gibcus (3 or 4 years is heaps at their age) so his prognosis will always be better than Gibcus, genetic issues notwithstanding. So comparing these lads is pointless. Also, depending on where the graft is harvested from, hamstrings (3 of them), patella tendon or cadaver donor (not sure if these are still done), the rate of recovery varies greatly. Seeing as Gibcus had horrendous hamstring issues leading up to his ACL, the hamstring option may not have been right for him. This may be why he is further back, combined with the comparative youth of the bloke some are comparing him to.

All our ACL blokes will have vastly different recoveries so we should chill a bit and let them get it done. Our new fitness bloke is certainly on the right track and his pre-hab approach in teaching young blokes running techniques and body development is certainly an improvement on what looked like a one size fits all approach of the past. Whilst not preventing ACL ruptures per-se, he is giving them a fighting chance in the expectation a certain percentage of these blokes will hit the dreaded jackpot. Genetic luck aside, this is about all anyone can do.

Kids with ACL's, I hear you...

Young fella did his at 15 palying footy, Impact injury so not just giving away by itself...
Did the Hammy graft... Did his rehab religiously... followed every direction the physio gave him... Past every test needed.

Was told to train properly before he would get the 'Return to Sport' clearance. The night before he was due to go back to the physio to get the clearance, simple jump and landing at training and POP, it went again (11 months 3 weeks).

Second reco done, used the quad graft this time along with the LETS technique (that wraps some if the ITB around your knee to support/stregthen it)...

So we are back on the rehab wagon, beginning stregthening excercises. But we have told him, 18 months this time, so no sport for the full calendar year of 2025 (surgery was in Aug).

Short answer is, he did everything right, and it still went. 50% of kids under 19 do their ACL again (or often do the other one).

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I think he was making a dad joke.
Great summary of our defence though!

Finally someone got it.lol

 

[Coach_Required]

Great news. We are gonna have good athletes that can’t hit the side of a barn when kicking

Haha said the exact same thing in the injury thread

 

[RobsJourney]

Do we by any chance have an unofficial practice game?

If so when?