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What's up with Walker?
Preview Pre-Season 2015 - Training, Pics etc
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So nice to see you have expanded your horizons Windy one. Thanks so much for the insults.
It would seem you have as much talent for blind irrational support as you do for unmitigated blind disdain.
Have a lovely day
Not every player carries around the same urgency at training.
Some will push themselves to the limit (Curnow Kreuzer Judd Rowe Carrazzo) whilst you'll always have some that just can't or maybe just won't.
Not saying that Yarran is lazy but he's just not one of the harder trainers and your query has some weight about it.
I hope you can answer my questions, not duck for cover.
Can you give me any references to the so-called miraculous recoveries your insulting post relies on?
Hopefully "they" undertook such diagnostic tests as might be helpful, yes, but equally hopefully they exercised sound medical judgment after a thorough medical examination and history from Yazz in respect of his complaint. I hope they took his complaint seriously because, in my experience, more damage is done to AFL footballers by ignoring their complaints of injury - leading to longer term complications and delayed recovery.
From the doco made of him and other aspiring young footballers it was quite plain Yarran recognised from the get go that sheer talent would not make him an AFL player. I have seen nothing to suggest any reluctance on his part and, again, invite you to particularise your insulting claim.
. . . apparently. Is it your special artform?
Ah, this is the source of your knowledge? Far be it for me to defend MM and staff but something tells me (actually most of the Carlton posters on bf most of the time, but that is another story) MM and staff run pretty enjoyable but competitive training sessions (Mansfield being one example) and not likely that players would want to avoid whether they were malingerers or not by nature - perhaps unlike the boring, malingering-inducing training sessions you have been a witness to.
Do you really need to be so patronising? Other people seem to be able to disagree with one another without their posts dripping with condescension and rudeness.
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181/2 is about right. No tricks with him.
Yep, not meant to imply rank laziness, but as you suggest, there are those driven to maximise their "God given" talents,
and those who are happy in a comfort zone a few rungs from the top of the ladder.
I was manic on the track in my younger day and hold with old fashioned tenets "we reap what we sow"
Thousands of the general public would gladly exert themselves to extreme a couple of hours a day for
a six figure pay packet, and being able to "play" for a living.
Yaz has clearly improved his work ethic, but was hypothesising that old habits die hard. Recurring soft tissue injuries come
from being under prepared or "over-cooked."
Just wish he could have an awakening similar to the fabled one of Gaz.
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Let's put it this way; Not many players have the strength of mind to come back onto the field with a broken leg, the way Curnow did against the Bulldogs.
Watching those few minutes where he broke his leg and worked hard enough to convince medical staff that he was O.K. is remarkable.
No offence to Yarran and probably 95% of other players, but it takes a somewhat unique will to do that.... (Cripps did the same in a VFL game also)
There is a difference between knowing what is required and doing what is required. You would also remember on the doco that Yarran didn't run the beep test at the draft camp because of "an injury".I hope you can answer my questions, not duck for cover.
Can you give me any references to the so-called miraculous recoveries your insulting post relies on?
Hopefully "they" undertook such diagnostic tests as might be helpful, yes, but equally hopefully they exercised sound medical judgment after a thorough medical examination and history from Yazz in respect of his complaint. I hope they took his complaint seriously because, in my experience, more damage is done to AFL footballers by ignoring their complaints of injury - leading to longer term complications and delayed recovery.
From the doco made of him and other aspiring young footballers it was quite plain Yarran recognised from the get go that sheer talent would not make him an AFL player. I have seen nothing to suggest any reluctance on his part and, again, invite you to particularise your insulting claim.
. . . apparently. Is it your special artform?
Ah, this is the source of your knowledge? Far be it for me to defend MM and staff but something tells me (actually most of the Carlton posters on bf most of the time, but that is another story) MM and staff run pretty enjoyable but competitive training sessions (Mansfield being one example) and not likely that players would want to avoid whether they were malingerers or not by nature - perhaps unlike the boring, malingering-inducing training sessions you have been a witness to.
It would seem however that he is not being influenced by the same people he used to and will step his professionalism and game up the the highest level.
Looks taller as over-stretched to get away from man-bun going hard at his backside
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...opes-to-get-a-kick-along-20150202-133twd.html
A detailed off-season kicking program has power forward Levi Casboult confident he will pose a greater threat inside attacking 50 for Carlton this season.
Casboult's unorthodox technique contributed to him having 57.7 per cent accuracy in front of goal last season, booting 15.11, of which 23 of the scores came from set shots. His percentage was similar to Travis Cloke's - 56.5 - although the Magpies' power forward contributed 39 goals.
A detailed off-season kicking program has power forward Levi Casboult confident he will pose a greater threat inside attacking 50 for Carlton this season.
Casboult's unorthodox technique contributed to him having 57.7 per cent accuracy in front of goal last season, booting 15.11, of which 23 of the scores came from set shots. His percentage was similar to Travis Cloke's - 56.5 - although the Magpies' power forward contributed 39 goals.
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Really? 30 shots at goal per day?
Am I reading this wrong and is it an extra 30 shots per day.....................but even so.
Is his leg going to fall off if he really practices?
30 shots doesn't sound like much at all for a key forwardReally? 30 shots at goal per day?
Am I reading this wrong and is it an extra 30 shots per day.....................but even so.
Is his leg going to fall off if he really practices?
Still on the mend from knee surgery. Hasn't had a preseason yet and probably our only worry in the lack of preseason category.
I guess he's got a better chance of having a good season with no training under the belt compared to others with his freakish fitness levels anyway.
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Id like to think that we have the depth and flexibility on our list now that we Can afford to give Walks all the time he needs to get right. Even if that means playing a few weeks in the magoos to get his touch back.
Don't rush it, Mick!
Still looks like a solid side without Walks in there. May just give Tutt the chance to get some games in the seniors early.
Buckley, Jamison, White
Yarran, Rowe, Simpson
Thomas, Judd, Murphy
Tutt, Henderson, Boekhorst
Casboult, Jones, Menzel
Kreuzer, Gibbs, Carrazzo
Docherty, Everitt, Curnow, Bell
Really? 30 shots at goal per day?
Am I reading this wrong and is it an extra 30 shots per day.....................but even so.
Is his leg going to fall off if he really practices?
Totally with you Harker.
I am a little over the modern sport science mumbo jumbo. While fully cognisant of the advances made, and
the undoubted benefit of a varied, targeted program, surely the best way to prepare for a particular activity
is to practice said activity. "Prepare" being physically, technically and mentally(read confidence).
Limiting kicking load has been around for a while, I still can't fathom the sense of it.........old fella thing again?
Using nba as an analogy.. you can probably liken yarran to a Tracy McGrady who had all-world talent but not the dedication and application in his preparation as Kobe Bryant. Talent alone allowed him to keep pace with Bryant in a handful of seasons but not the longevity in which Bryant even though talent wise and physical gifts were in McGrady's favour..
Hope Yaz realises sooner rather than later that his speed won't last forever
Apparently in doubt for R1...
For those of you saying 30 shots at goal every day isn't a lot, you're kidding yourself. I'm presuming that those 30 shots are at the end of training and on top of however many shots on goal he's had during training. At 30sec per shot (and I actually think it'd be closer to 1min after giving advice for every shot) that's an extra 75min of training every week (150min if closer to 1min). You might also then underestimate just how much strain that would be putting on his kicking foot's hamstring. Let the experts do what they do best - monitor his workload. Afterall we'll be the first ones to complain if he was to do a hamstring.
That % would be an overestimation - as it would exclude OOF etc
So with all of the various "tailored" programs it wouldn't or couldn't be included?..............kidding right.
Nowhere has it been established that his 30 shots are, indeed, extras.
So blokes like Ablett, Rockliff, Priddis, Kennedy and co who have regular 40 possession games on top of training, all have hammy issues.....right?
As a kid (read teenager) as well as training for 3 different competitions, every available daylight hour was spent kicking with a mate.
Usually "Forcies back" = kicking as far as we possibly could...maximum effort and distance every kick. Soft tissue injuries only became
an issue as an adult, when I had to work a job, home duties etc limiting my practice and, therefore, fitness.
Today's kids (even many of the good ones) spend more time on a game consul.
How times have changed, and how gullible our wannabe experts are.
Yeah I agree with reg_lower91 - 30 doesn't sound like a lot but this is in addition to what already happens and the act of kicking (especially for Cas) is quite heavy leg work.
I always recall feeling like I had been hit by a hammer in the hammys after taking extra shots on goal at practise.
I always recall feeling like I had been hit by a hammer in the hammys after taking extra shots on goal at practise.
Assuming the players are training 3-4 times a week at the moment, even if Levi was having those 30 shots per session over 2 sessions, that is 60 shots on goal per week. For a player who had 26 shots on goal for the whole of last season, that is a significant workload when combined with the various other skill sessions & the ruck contests he would be participating in as well.
Jatz
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Yeah sonny...your generation. You are so well qualified to respond......or at least think you are.
The age of entitlement
Jatz
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I work 65 hours a week and commute an extra 20 hours on top of that.Yeah sonny...your generation. You are so well qualified to respond......or at least think you are.
The age of entitlement
Not much of an entitlement I've gotta be honest.
