Training Pre-Season 2023 (First game 18/3 v North)

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Quick question for the brains trust. If Port fancy a rise up the ladder this year (and we beat them in a stirring comeback), as well as if we knock off Adelaide on Friday night who beat Freo (many think they are going top 4) - are we quite possibly one of the greatest sides in the history of the game and about to go flag?
 
Quick question for the brains trust. If Port fancy a rise up the ladder this year (and we beat them in a stirring comeback), as well as if we knock off Adelaide on Friday night who beat Freo (many think they are going top 4) - are we quite possibly one of the greatest sides in the history of the game and about to go flag?

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Quick question for the brains trust. If Port fancy a rise up the ladder this year (and we beat them in a stirring comeback), as well as if we knock off Adelaide on Friday night who beat Freo (many think they are going top 4) - are we quite possibly one of the greatest sides in the history of the game and about to go flag?
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Quick question for the brains trust. If Port fancy a rise up the ladder this year (and we beat them in a stirring comeback), as well as if we knock off Adelaide on Friday night who beat Freo (many think they are going top 4) - are we quite possibly one of the greatest sides in the history of the game and about to go flag?

We don’t want to get too excited about pre season results. We’re not Fremantle.
 
Quick question for the brains trust. If Port fancy a rise up the ladder this year (and we beat them in a stirring comeback), as well as if we knock off Adelaide on Friday night who beat Freo (many think they are going top 4) - are we quite possibly one of the greatest sides in the history of the game and about to go flag?
We'll be one of the greatest teams of Bunuru 2023.
 
We don’t want to get too excited about pre season results. We’re not Fremantle.

We'll be one of the greatest teams of Bunuru 2023.

Pretend / summer premiers is still better than never premiers. I for one will be getting right into the build up to Friday’s game against the Crows like it’s a GF. Might start getting sauced for it tomorrow

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So if Simmo persists with playing Gaff in the centre square with so many other options available, should we assume that this is where Simmo thinks he should be?
Without naming names, plenty of posters on this forum have thrown up excuses as to why Simmo has played him there over the years, personally I think it’s been a flawed coaching strategy and he should take ownership of that.
 
Can't bring chairs this time due to expected crowd numbers - did they offer more tickets or underestimate demand last week? I didn't think there were any issues last week.


Although thinking about it now I bet a resident complained to the council.
 
Darling stiff to miss.
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If you have a spare hour at any time (which I realise a lot of people don't have but anyway) I'd highly recommend giving this a watch. Or even just watch a section of it, or skip to the interviews with Allen, Gavin Bell, Simmo etc.

A heap of interesting insight, especially from Will Schofield who was on the commentary panel and describing what the boys are doing at training and how it all works.

I really hope this is something the club continues with. Must say I was quite surprised yesterday to see us doing this, our media department has never been one to go above and beyond like this. May it continue into this season.
 


If you have a spare hour at any time (which I realise a lot of people don't have but anyway) I'd highly recommend giving this a watch. Or even just watch a section of it, or skip to the interviews with Allen, Gavin Bell, Simmo etc.

A heap of interesting insight, especially from Will Schofield who was on the commentary panel and describing what the boys are doing at training and how it all works.

I really hope this is something the club continues with. Must say I was quite surprised yesterday to see us doing this, our media department has never been one to go above and beyond like this. May it continue into this season.

just watched it. One very minor thing I noticed was a stoppage drill and how clean trew is. It wasn't heated or anything but regardless he just pickes a ground ball from a ruck tap effortlessly. Big year for him and think he does have tools to be handy at the next level but one of those years he essentially has to be dominating at the Beagles each week and breaking open the door.
 
Interesting comment regarding Hewett from one of the coaches, Bell possibly - he said he showed glimpses but the challenge is to produce over 4 quarters. Perhaps that’s why he’s fallen behind Ginbey and Long in the quest to make the “probables”.
 
I think, whilst the point you are making is valid - JD wins that contest - the issue is not who plays what position, but how we move the ball.

If we are no longer just bombing into the forward line then OA can play FF/CHF or even the mitch brown FP role if we play land-of-the-giants. He is more Naughton than Hawkins, but delivery to him is still much more important than where his magnet is on the board.

Fans fap over contested marks because they look great.

But the truth is they are incredibly low percentage and not a pathway to kicking a consistent winning score- the very best contested marking players only average about 2.5 a game (and interestingly the shortest player in the top 10 contested marks last year was 1.95cm) so across 4 quarters they simply do not result in enough goals to generate a winning score - if the ball is coming in high in a situation where the forward and defender are already physically engaged at the drop of the ball, the defence has pretty much already done its job.

What generates winning scores is simple- forwards getting separation on their men and marking the ball out in front of them out of reach of a following defender- simply put it is what every coach is trying to generate every time the ball goes forward because it results in far more goals per inside 50m.

And in that scenario extra height and reach is incredibly important for a few reasons
  • it gives the leading forward a head start on the following defender equal to their reach advantage- so against a forward with a +5cm reach advantage, the following defender has to find a way to make up that extra 5cm over a 10 metre sprint. Over a game that matters enormously.
  • it gives the midfielder a bigger margin for error with their kick in in a way that is disproportionate to the height difference- you can imagine there is a circle around the leading forward where he will be able to stick out his hands and mark it, so a midfielder needs to kick the ball into that circle- if his kick is slightly off line or overcooked the forward can still adjust and mark it by reaching left or right or jumping as long as it's within the circle. An extra 5cm reach means that circle extends 5cm extra above 5cm extra to the right and to the left of the forward- meaning a midfielder has a considerably larger margin for error.

If you look at who is in the top 10 average goals per game last year pretty obvious that height matters for forwards. Curnow, and Toby Greene are the only players under 194cm in the top 10.
 
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