News Premiership duo Brent Guerra and David Hale join Fremantle coaching staff

[Xtreme]

Not sure what Hale is bringing to the table? Wouldn't have earmarked him as coaching material.

See ball in air
Tap ball to advantage OR mark if it was kicked in your direction
Kick/handpass to advantage
Kick goal yourself

Coaching is pretty simple!

 

[threesixpio]

They'll likely want to claim a few scalps in their tenure at Freo

 

[HairyO]

They'll likely want to claim a few scalps in their tenure at Freo

Fyfe is in serious trouble. Expect a new haircut within days.

 

[threesixpio]

Fyfe is in serious trouble. Expect a new haircut within days.

I think if Fyfe goes bald in two or so years you can blame them.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

They'll likely want to claim a few scalps in their tenure at Freo

Yeah yeah!

 

[seysearles]

 

[Agent Smith]

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So that's what that song is about. How do you fall off a trojan horse though?

 

[Samthegun]

I read your posts with an harpsichord leitmotif playing in the background of my mind

Just thought you'd like to know

I would never have imagined people talking about harpsichord leitmotifs on Bigfooty...

 

[RelaxMax]

I would never have imagined people talking about harpsichord leitmotifs on Bigfooty...

 

[threesixpio]

I would never have imagined people talking about harpsichord leitmotifs on Bigfooty...

I am now imagining BT playing the harpsichord along with his commentary. Kinda works

 

[moginie]

So that's what that song is about. How do you fall off a trojan horse though?

No, you fall out of a Trojan horse.

 

[threesixpio]

No, you fall out of a Trojan horse.

And if you fall out I'll put you back in - put you back in - yeah!

 

[Samthegun]

Twas meant as a compliment!

 

[Samthegun]

I am now imagining BT playing the harpsichord along with his commentary. Kinda works

BT = Beethoven?

Errr...no, doesn't work! LOL

 

[RelaxMax]

 

[Briar Gold]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-...-training-with-strong-focus-on-kicking-skills

Hale's appointment to Freo has really got me thinking about non-compete clauses in AFL contracts. They exist in other industries, so why not in the AFL coaching ranks? To jump ship to one of our main challengers with all that intell stinks to me. Go work somewhere else for a year or two on 'gardening leave' first.

 

[play2win]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-...-training-with-strong-focus-on-kicking-skills

Hale's appointment to Freo has really got me thinking about non-compete clauses in AFL contracts. They exist in other industries, so why not in the AFL coaching ranks? To jump ship to one of our main challengers with all that intell stinks to me. Go work somewhere else for a year or two on 'gardening leave' first.

yeah i don't like it too but how would that work? if you include a non-compete clause in a contract doesn't that mean you would have to pay them whilst on 'gardening leave'? what club could afford to keep ex-players on the payroll beyond their playing days and would this be included in the salary cap?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

There's a big difference between talking about improving foots kills and being able to execute.

 

[MrFujiMoto]

There's a big difference between talking about improving foots kills and being able to execute.

I would say the rewards of their increased focus would be at least 2 - 3 years from paying off. We switched styles somewhat in 2010 to this style of play and it really took until 2011/2012 to start to see consistent results. That was factoring in that we had already recruited the talent to execute the game-plan 2 years earlier.
Still, it may make them that bit better this year and it may cost us 4 points at some stage over the next 2 years.
Knowing Ross, he will probably try to implement the better kicking in some way that further restricts other sides scoring, rather than further improves the Dockers chances of scoring themselves. A true keepings off interpretation of our game style.

 

[Brishawk]

yeah i don't like it too but how would that work? if you include a non-compete clause in a contract doesn't that mean you would have to pay them whilst on 'gardening leave'? what club could afford to keep ex-players on the payroll beyond their playing days and would this be included in the salary cap?

Non-compete agreements should be illegal as they are a clear restraint of trade. Doubt very much the players association is going to allow them given the best chance a lot of them have of making a career post footy is in coaching.

 

[Briar Gold]

yeah i don't like it too but how would that work? if you include a non-compete clause in a contract doesn't that mean you would have to pay them whilst on 'gardening leave'? what club could afford to keep ex-players on the payroll beyond their playing days and would this be included in the salary cap?

I probably conflated two issues there. No you don't necessarily have to pay gardening leave to have a non compete clause.

If I am a senior physio in a private clinic, my agreement might state I can't work at another clinic in a 5km radius for say 12 months. It has nothing to do with gardening leave - just a straight out restriction on my behaviour (which must be reasonable in order to be legal).

The Associations would go mental about it, but I see some merit in prohibiting senior players from crossing over to coach say a fellow top 4 side.

 

[CD Xbow]

There's a big difference between talking about improving foots kills and being able to execute.

True, but I am probably more concerned about the overall loss of our IP and losing our 'edge'. I believe we do have a significant edge over all the current crop of challenges, so much so that 2016 as ours to lose. I'll probably pay for that prediction. Nonetheless the constant drain of coaches & senior players to other clubs really does represent a bit of a challenge.

 

[johnoamh]

AFL is a billion dollar industry, top clubs like Freo, Sydney etc would already know most of Hawthorn's game plan/intell inside and out and vice-versa.

Lyon was probably trying to add two blokes who have been to the big dance and performed and problem hoping for that 1% of Hawthorn's secrets that they don't already know.

 

[RustyHawk]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-...-training-with-strong-focus-on-kicking-skills

Hale's appointment to Freo has really got me thinking about non-compete clauses in AFL contracts. They exist in other industries, so why not in the AFL coaching ranks? To jump ship to one of our main challengers with all that intell stinks to me. Go work somewhere else for a year or two on 'gardening leave' first.

Did you complain when David Hale first crossed from North to us, especially when he would have given us a detailed inside analysis of each North player, their coach and playing rules etc?

The answer being obviously no, so I cant see this as a problem when its applied the other way.

Anyway, Freo have a different structure to Hawthorn. A dominant ruckman and a stay at home full forward. Different set up and game plan to ours. The skills, well everyone has to be able to kick, mark and handball to some degree and that's just practice to improve. We cant put a patent on that.

 

[tommyk72]

Non-compete agreements should be illegal as they are a clear restraint of trade. Doubt very much the players association is going to allow them given the best chance a lot of them have of making a career post footy is in coaching.

Agree with this. All recruitment (in both corporate and other spheres) is predicated on a mix of experience, expertise, etc. It's all part of the package you're purchasing with your new employee.