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It's not about the 8 hours a day. Players need to maintain and build their fitness outside of pre-season training. Same like brain surgeons need to keep their scalpels rust free and rocket scientists need to make sure they have a jerrycan of fuel ready to go.I worked for someone who wanted me to turn up and start work early because someone else did. I could never understand why they didn't think being there for 8 hours each day wasn't enough. I certainly tried to do a good job when I was there.
Players have off season programs that they followIt's not about the 8 hours a day. Players need to maintain and build their fitness outside of pre-season training. Same like brain surgeons need to keep their scalpels rust free and rocket scientists need to make sure they have a jerrycan of fuel ready to go.
Now those are some valid points.He might be doing his own program. You have no idea. Also, rest is just as essential as putting in the work.
Yes he is entitled to the break. I really want him to succeed because I've defended him a lot on this board. That is why I'm tough on him!Please this absolutely the worst, the pits, opinion. Sure a few guys might be turning up 'early' for pre season but all of them are doubtlessly ones that didn't have to play 3 extra weeks of WAFL finals.
Even if they haven't this is what they entitled to and noone should be judged for taking what is theirs.
There was talking that at GCSs he could not build his running capacity to the required level to force his way to a best 22 slot. He's 8 years in the AFL now. Clock is ticking.Yes he is entitled to the break. I really want him to succeed because I've defended him a lot on this board. That is why I'm tough on him!
Yeah I'm a big believer players should be able to get their rest and there is continuous focus during the season, so not a fan of xxx player hasn't turned up yet before they're required to.There was talking that at GCSs he could not build his running capacity to the required level to force his way to a best 22 slot. He's 8 years in the AFL now. Clock is ticking.
He doesn't have to turn up. It isn't a contract requirement. But he wasn't getting selected last year and he had just received a contract extension.Yeah I'm a big believer players should be able to get their rest and there is continuous focus during the season, so not a fan of xxx player hasn't turned up yet before they're required to.
They make the choices that leads to their success (or otherwise).
But Brodie is the one where I'm a bit divided, he's got a lot to gain by getting as fit as possible, and visible signs he's gone all in on that would be positive for his performance and career, and hence Freo.
I'll be honest, I have some slight concerns on Ras though nowhere near writing him off like some people have done but I always come back to how hard a worker he is. I'm confident someone with his profile that has the work ethic he has will figure it out
The club knew what they were getting when they picked him up. He's never going to be a marathon runner - lets have us use what he's good at - winning the ball.Whether Brodie turns up early to pre season is irrelevant. His problem is his tank and it doesn't matter where he is running. If he's not doing extra 12 km runs in October whilst on holiday then running a few laps in front the training watchers is not going to make any difference. It's a dumb criticism.
if hes not in peak form then he is pretty much a liability, which he was when in the afl side and wasnt exactly putting up dominant numbers in the wafl after that, wasnt hard done by imoThe club knew what they were getting when they picked him up. He's never going to be a marathon runner - lets have us use what he's good at - winning the ball.
I think he's massively hard done by. Our midfield is better when he's in there getting us first use. Rather than try and mould him into something he's not, lets use his strengths and then cover his weakness in other ways, that's what good teams do.
once upon a time I'd froth on these sort of posts, get all excited about how were going to improve and be so much better the following season. It'd really build my hope and excitement, and i'd equally empart this on people like eagles supporters.
For me he was in peak form early last season in the tiny go he was given. We started the season in pathetic style largely because he wasn't there, winning us contests. He was a super reason for us beating GC at Gather round when he was finally put on the ground.if hes not in peak form then he is pretty much a liability, which he was when in the afl side and wasnt exactly putting up dominant numbers in the wafl after that, wasnt hard done by imo
While I'm sure almost no one here is rocking back at work early from their holidays, I don't think it's so much the contractual requirements, and more the human side.He doesn't have to turn up. It isn't a contract requirement. But he wasn't getting selected last year and he had just received a contract extension.
You talk about being a professional sports person as though it is similar to other jobs. Quite a few differences I think. The underlying one being that to be successful in an elite environment you need to bring elite preparation, especially if you are not in the superstar category.
think thats a completely inaccurate assessment on his season last year tbhFor me he was in peak form early last season in the tiny go he was given. We started the season in pathetic style largely because he wasn't there, winning us contests. He was a super reason for us beating GC at Gather round when he was finally put on the ground.
He's massively hard done by because we're trying to make him Phar Lap when clearly he's not. He's just great at winning the ball and getting a clean handball to a teammate, as he showed all 2022. For some reason we're now ignoring what he's good at and trying to make him something he's not. Kind of like putting Fyfe as a forward - but we havent got the balls to drop Fyfe for not being able to kick a drop punt correctly.
Inacurate? He's been in the game for 8 years and at our club for 2. We know what player we've got. All the chat is on his running ability - we know that's a weakness, and if it hasnt been fixed in 8 years it's likely to never change. His ball winning ability and distribution on the other hand is elite. We either work with that warts and all, or cut him adrift. He wasnt a better runner in 2022 when he was dominating and the team was more successful. For some reason last season there was a lot of chatter about his 2 - way running (not sure what changed from 2022) and he was in and out of the side, on and off the bench, or used as the sub a lot. He was cooked mentally by the end of the season and i'd completely understand why.think thats a completely inaccurate assessment on his season last year tbh
not sure why you think were trying to turn him into some tom scully run all day bloke, were definetly interested in improving his tank obviously as hes an AFL footballer and only being on the ground 70% of the game is a genuine issue
would have to watch it back but from memory he wasnt impressive in the first couple of games he was given to start the year, and never earnt his way back from there
Yes he can do it wherever suits him best. He's not been required to join the young guys for several seasons now. He'd be expected to manage his own preseason fitness regime with club targets.While I'm sure almost no one here is rocking back at work early from their holidays, I don't think it's so much the contractual requirements, and more the human side.
Some people cope well with the ongoing scrutiny and being buried in footy, and some don't.
Getting a mental break may be more beneficial to some than some extra training, it depends on the individual.
Brodie however has clear improvement areas on the aerobic side, which he could be working on by his own, but it would have been a positive sign if that was shown visibly by an early commitment.
I hope he has worked on it, and I won't judge him by whether he's at training early or not, but the proof will be in the pudding.
They're young and keen, they'll be fine..Yes he can do it wherever suits him best. He's not been required to join the young guys for several seasons now. He'd be expected to manage his own preseason fitness regime with club targets.
Curious that 4th year+ players need a mental break, but younguns don't.