Training Preseason 22-23

[GrahamSmith]

Had to leave at 12:15 today as couldn’t stick around, did they end up doing photos/autographs?

 

[Optimistic Dog]

I was there today. Takeaways

Bont will be back to 2021 form he sparkled.
Jones looks super fit
All the light duties guys Treloar, Baz, Keath etc do not look far away
Sam although still light has bulked up a bit
Busslinger is very skinny do not see him playing much senior footy this season.
A good injury run we will be top 4

 

[_Cerberus_]

Don't know if that's a massive positive for Darcy or negative for Naughton...

Loving the development of Darcy, but hope Naughton doesn't start losing match ups against 2nd year players

I think Naughton does need to improve body positioning in contests though. He is elite when he gets a good opening on the mark, can crash packs, and solid on the ground. But I have seen him be bumped off the ball by smaller players a few times when ball on the ground, or out bodied at marking constests where both players are standing their ground. Granted he is not a tank build wise like Bruce was, and more slim lined.

He should not be getting pushed around by the DeKonings and Darcys of the league with less than 10 games experience. He kicked a lot of goals vs the best teams in the first half of his career, but has waned off a bit as he has a few quiet ones vs good teams and kicks bags vs lower teams. Hopefully the acquisition of Lobb, a fit Bruce and more experience Ugle-Hagan will help ease the pressure on him. He does get teamed up a bit these days.

That being said, it would be disrespectful to not acknowledge Darcy. As he has so much potential, and did keep Naughton quiet from reports on his own accord.

 

[chop0205]

I was there today. Takeaways

Bont will be back to 2021 form he sparkled.
Jones looks super fit
All the light duties guys Treloar, Baz, Keath etc do not look far away
Sam although still light has bulked up a bit
Busslinger is very skinny do see him playing much senior footy this season.
A good injury run we will be top 4

Bont looked in incredible nick, watching him move freely is something to behold.
Looked like the white team was the stronger Mid and Forwards whilst the blue team had a stronger back line. McClean played very well on the ball, so too did Westy when he got his change in the third term.
I was very impressed with Arthur Jones crumb and goal. Perfect timing.

 

[Golden_6]

The teams were split today unfairly as usual in these circumstances. The white team consisted of the senior midfield and senior forwards. The blue team consisted of the senior backline (against the senior forwards).

I forgot to look out for it but it didn’t seem like we were backing off the mark at all? I didn’t notice it and I feel as thought I would have.

McLean - A lock for the best 22. He should get a decent chunk of midfield minutes and float across half forward.
Darcy - Already has a massive presence on the field. A few good contested marks against Naughton & Lobb. He’s in my best 22 as well.
Richards - I think he has another level this year especially if Daniel is moved up the ground. I wouldn’t be shocked to see an AA berth.
Scott/Hannan - I know they aren’t the favourites of some but I expect both to play round 1. Bevo clearly likes there versatility in the side on the HFF/wing and both played pretty well today. Just solid role players.
L Jones - He’s definitely going to make a big difference to the side aerially in defence.
Vandermeer - Played the entire game in defence and did okay. He was drafted as a defender so I think this is a positive move for him given our lack of small defender options.

A significant group of players didn’t really complete todays session including Treloar, Baz, Keath, Daniel, McComb, O’Brien, Crozier, Gallagher, Busslinger & Gardner. I was over the far side of the ground so wasn’t fully aware of what they were doing.

I think our wings will definitely be an issue this season unless we stick someone like Baz there full time. It was mostly shared between Williams, Hannan, Scott & Baker. All can be solid players but not a huge amount of upside.

 

[Here we go dogs]

How did JUH go today?

 

[X_box_X]

How did JUH go today?

He did nothing outstanding.

A few basic skill errors in some drills was frustrating to see.

 

[Old_Dog]

A few pics from today's training. Unfortunately had to leave before match simulation, but the boys looked in fair shape. Looking forward to the season big time!

 

[doggiesin08]

For those who were there, what roles were Buku and Bedendo playing? I think there’s so much upside and flexibility in those two.

 

[VitalDread]

For those who were there, what roles were Buku and Bedendo playing? I think there’s so much upside and flexibility in those two.

Defence for Buku and Wing for Bednendo

 

[your_mate_07]

Couple of observations from today's session:

1. Sam Darcy is ready, and I expect him to line up in the backline in round 1. Seems to read the play well and took a couple of strong intercept pack marks. That being said, he'd probably need to play as a floating tall as he doesn't have the body to be able to compete 1 on 1 with some of the premier forwards. So I think two of Jones/Bruce/Keath/Gardner will lineup alongside him. Keath really does look trimmed down and was getting through his laps nicely, will definitely be interesting to see how they decide to set up in defence against the dees.

2. Bont really does look like he's primed for his best year yet. He really does make it look effortless when he finds space in congestion and nails a 45m kick to a leading forward.

3. McLean looks like he hasn't missed a beat. A lot of talk about who's going to fill the Dunkley role as a midfielder with a defensive side to his game, and I don't see any reason (other than injuries) why that can't be Toby. He also gets a bonus point because it doesn't look like he's lost his trademark "duck", so we can probably count on him for a few cheap goals too.

4. English might end this season as an All-Australian ruckman, but it's going to be his around-the-ground work that carries him to that accolade. The most frustrating thing about him is every time there's a stoppage, his first instinct is to look at what the other ruckman is doing, which means he's always one step behind. I think he needs to get a bit of Nic Nat about him and just attack the ball and make the opposing ruckman start worrying about what he's doing. Outside of that, his game is just elite, his pack marks both in D50 and F50 are such an asset, and with the acquisition of Lobb, I think we'll get another 10-15 goals from English this year.

5. I'm not sure who it was, and I'm hoping somebody can enlighten me, but number 8 from the blue team actually played a pretty handy game for what you'd consider the "B" team. Took a couple of nice contested marks and also seems pretty fit, was moving from contest to contest pretty well.

Now for a couple of not-so-great things.

Firstly, I personally don't see it happening with Arty Jones, he kicked a couple of nice goals in the match sim but he just seems to look disinterested to me. Earlier in the session, they were doing an uncontested kicking drill and he missed the target twice in a row and then had a couple of turnovers in a "keepings off" drill.

Lastly, I don't think we'll see Busslinger in the AFL this season, obviously, he's coming back from an injury but he looks way off the pace. You could tell he was running on heavy legs when they were doing laps, and he looks a step off the pace.

My last comment will hopefully shed some further light on the Stand vs Outside 5 tactic we'll be employing this year. From the game I watched, it seems like we were opting to stand as opposed to granting them the extra 5m. I personally think it's much of a muchness and shouldn't be a determining factor in the result of a game, but I know some people have stronger views on this so thought I'd shed some light.

 

[Golden_6]

For those who were there, what roles were Buku and Bedendo playing? I think there’s so much upside and flexibility in those two.

Both were in the ‘B’ side forward line and both were playing pretty deep but mostly starved of opportunity given the senior midfield was on top.

Both guys were actually very dangerous deep forward and had a few scoring opportunities when given the chance. Finishing let them down. No idea what roles the club has then earmarked full time though.

 

[murphy's twin]

Darcy definitely was the one who stood out for me.

There was one play in which I watched Naughton closely, and he ran into the goal square with his trademark run up and leap (into a pack of players).
Next moment I noticed lobb and a couple of our tall defenders jostling to grab the ball in the air.

What happened next sent a shiver down my spine. It was basically a moment in which Moses was parting the sea…

I hadn’t noticed him until the seas parted.

There was Darcy - arms fully stretched out, grasping the ball tightly, as everyone around him stumbled whilst looking up in awe.

This boy is going to make a big impact sooner rather than later.

i think he will be the perfect +1 defender floating around plugging gaps behind the play..

 

[Golden_6]

Couple of observations from today's session:

1. Sam Darcy is ready, and I expect him to line up in the backline in round 1. Seems to read the play well and took a couple of strong intercept pack marks. That being said, he'd probably need to play as a floating tall as he doesn't have the body to be able to compete 1 on 1 with some of the premier forwards. So I think two of Jones/Bruce/Keath/Gardner will lineup alongside him. Keath really does look trimmed down and was getting through his laps nicely, will definitely be interesting to see how they decide to set up in defence against the dees.

2. Bont really does look like he's primed for his best year yet. He really does make it look effortless when he finds space in congestion and nails a 45m kick to a leading forward.

3. McLean looks like he hasn't missed a beat. A lot of talk about who's going to fill the Dunkley role as a midfielder with a defensive side to his game, and I don't see any reason (other than injuries) why that can't be Toby. He also gets a bonus point because it doesn't look like he's lost his trademark "duck", so we can probably count on him for a few cheap goals too.

4. English might end this season as an All-Australian ruckman, but it's going to be his around-the-ground work that carries him to that accolade. The most frustrating thing about him is every time there's a stoppage, his first instinct is to look at what the other ruckman is doing, which means he's always one step behind. I think he needs to get a bit of Nic Nat about him and just attack the ball and make the opposing ruckman start worrying about what he's doing. Outside of that, his game is just elite, his pack marks both in D50 and F50 are such an asset, and with the acquisition of Lobb, I think we'll get another 10-15 goals from English this year.

5. I'm not sure who it was, and I'm hoping somebody can enlighten me, but number 8 from the blue team actually played a pretty handy game for what you'd consider the "B" team. Took a couple of nice contested marks and also seems pretty fit, was moving from contest to contest pretty well.

Now for a couple of not-so-great things.

Firstly, I personally don't see it happening with Arty Jones, he kicked a couple of nice goals in the match sim but he just seems to look disinterested to me. Earlier in the session, they were doing an uncontested kicking drill and he missed the target twice in a row and then had a couple of turnovers in a "keepings off" drill.

Lastly, I don't think we'll see Busslinger in the AFL this season, obviously, he's coming back from an injury but he looks way off the pace. You could tell he was running on heavy legs when they were doing laps, and he looks a step off the pace.

My last comment will hopefully shed some further light on the Stand vs Outside 5 tactic we'll be employing this year. From the game I watched, it seems like we were opting to stand as opposed to granting them the extra 5m. I personally think it's much of a muchness and shouldn't be a determining factor in the result of a game, but I know some people have stronger views on this so thought I'd shed some light.

VitalDread Do you know who this number 8 was? Looked very young, tall & skinny but showed enough to make me want to add him to the list today.

On Arty Jones, you must have been watching what I was. It was very alarming. He seemed to seriously fluff every second kick despite being uncontested and not very long.

 

[Hoges64]

LOL you really have no sense of humour

????

I would if you said anything funny. What the genuine **** are you talking about?

 

[Nat Fyfe]

VitalDread Do you know who this number 8 was? Looked very young, tall & skinny but showed enough to make me want to add him to the list today.

On Arty Jones, you must have been watching what I was. It was very alarming. He seemed to seriously fluff every second kick despite being uncontested and not very long.

Clarke was given the number 8, any chance it was him or was he in the white side? Although he isn't tall

 

[X_box_X]

Couple of observations from today's session:


4. English might end this season as an All-Australian ruckman, but it's going to be his around-the-ground work that carries him to that accolade. The most frustrating thing about him is every time there's a stoppage, his first instinct is to look at what the other ruckman is doing, which means he's always one step behind. I think he needs to get a bit of Nic Nat about him and just attack the ball and make the opposing ruckman start worrying about what he's doing. Outside of that, his game is just elite, his pack marks both in D50 and F50 are such an asset, and with the acquisition of Lobb, I think we'll get another 10-15 goals from English this year.

It's funny you say that, because one of the takeaways I got from today is English seemed a lot more focused on the ball rather than his opponent in a stoppage situation.

 

[X_box_X]

FWIW, I also noticed the same with Arty Jones.

He hasn't shown me anything to date to convince me he deserves to be on an AFL list.

 

[Golden_6]

Clarke was given the number 8, any chance it was him or was he in the white side? Although he isn't tall

Definitely wasn’t Clarke. He looked to have a similar profile to Busslinger (but wasn’t him).

I didn’t notice Clarke at all today on the track or running laps so have to assume he wasn’t there.

 

[Testekill]

Did we have any FS/Academy players taking part? If so then it could have been Croft if it was a tall and skinny player.

 

[weltschmerz]

Did we have any FS/Academy players taking part? If so then it could have been Croft if it was a tall and skinny player.

Croft was there.

 

[doggiesin08]

Both were in the ‘B’ side forward line and both were playing pretty deep but mostly starved of opportunity given the senior midfield was on top.

Both guys were actually very dangerous deep forward and had a few scoring opportunities when given the chance. Finishing let them down. No idea what roles the club has then earmarked full time though.

It will be interesting to see how the VFL team structures up KPP wise to hopefully allow a similar game plan to the AFL team.

If we play in the AFL team:
FWD: Lobb, Naughton, JUH
DEF: Jones, Keath, Darcy

Then “talls” for the VFL then looks like: Bruce, Gardiner, Busslinger, O’Brien, Raak which is very defender heavy. If we want to mirror the 3 tall forward structure a few will have to play out of position or Buku/Bedendo fill these rolls, but again that’s not where they would be competitions for AFL spots.

 

[doggiesin08]

Croft was there.

Shhhhhh Croft is rubbish, rookie selection only.

 

[Rocketsurgery]

VitalDread Do you know who this number 8 was? Looked very young, tall & skinny but showed enough to make me want to add him to the list today.

Number 8 was definately Jordan Croft. I was sitting near Matthew at open training today and asked him if there was anyone in particular he had his eye on, he said yes, my son is number 8. I think he said he is currently 17 and playing for Calder Canons this year

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[hatescaptcha]

Number 8 was definately Jordan Croft. I was sitting near Matthew at open training today and asked him if there was anyone in particular he had his eye on, he said yes, my son is number 8. I think he said he is currently 17 and playing for Calder Canons this year

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How did Jordan Croft go? Where did he play?


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