Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

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Expected roles for the new guys, Shanahan starting off as a KPF.

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Anyone know what Barnett has been doing? Is he with the defenders or still going as a ruckman?
If hes being left with the defenders then we probably dont need to move Archer or Jobe to the backline at all for now
 
Doesn’t even necessarily have to be “chaos ball”, Richmond circa 2019, where there were next to no skills.

Brisbane and Sydney both play high octane transition ball but they do it with skill.

Moving the ball quick is a prerequisite of modern footy to catch the defence out. Beats me why it’s taken till now for us to try to consistently take the game on. When we’ve done it we’ve looked good. Wont always work out with a young squad but as long as the intent is there.
Agree, I use 'chaos ball' as a lazy description, but 'hi-octane transition ball with skill' sounds infinitely better...and what we hope for..
 
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Young midfielders Harley Reid and Harvey Johnston are also currently in modified training programs.

“Tom’s surgery went well and he will be focusing on his cardio program before resuming contact training,” General Manager Football Gavin Bell said today.

“Harley has disrupted some scar tissue from an old lower-leg injury, so he will be in an off-legs program for the next few sessions.
 

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Wednesday is the lighter load session in comparison to Monday and Friday and it seems Hewett, along with a few others, is skipping Wednesdays presumably to manage training loads

Ryan, Hewett, Brockman, Kelly, Allen, McGovern and Dewar all seem to be absent or on light duties for Wednesday sessions despite seemingly training fine on the two Monday sessions I’ve been to. (Didn’t go last Friday so not sure what they did then)

It’s not panic stations yet because it’s really just the very beginning of preseason, but it’s low key concerning how many players aren’t in full training. In addition to those mentioned who are on modified programs -

• Sheed, Jamieson and Hutchinson have done two fifths of **** all and I wouldn’t expect to see them with the main group until after the Christmas break. And probably not straight away when they return either

• Yeo, Chesser and Petruccelle haven’t done much more than that either. Some light running and walking laps before disappearing after 30 minutes or so. (Hough did do some training early but has since joined that group)

• Long and Bazzo are running but look to be building their fitness base and aren’t participating in most of the group drills. Johnston has also been the same since adding an elbow brace to his training kit this week

So a bit over a third of the list aren’t training fully.

That said, my general observation is that they look to be easing into preseason training a little bit which admittedly has only involved the full list since Monday. Still plenty of work being done but I haven’t walked away from a session so far where I’ve thought that was brutal

Whilst there has been some just running during sessions, most of it is included as part of the drills which was a feature of last year’s training.

In comparison to last preseason there’s been more focus on skills, in particular moving the ball quickly by hand or foot - often through a zone defence sometimes with tackling and other times with frontal pressure. That also means they’re working in forcing turnovers.

Working on tackling technique has also been common

Last year there was a greater focus on contests and clearances with a lot of match sim style scrimmages either half or full ground. So this year there’s been less contact work and more ball movement/skills

Still early days though and I’d anticipate things to ramp up prior to the break

There was a drill yesterday where I could hear McQualter’s instructions that I think illustrate how he wants us to play differently

The drill involved moving the ball through a zone type defence by foot (no handball). Players were taking a mark then backpedaling a bit before taking their kick - the sort of thing I’d seen them practicing under Simpson to get back off the mark quickly and then move the ball on

McQualter stopped the drill to explain that he wanted them to mark, turn around and if nobody was coming up to stand the mark then kick the ball straight away or take the ground in front of them. Only go back if an opponent had shut down the space

It’s a little thing but the mindset is speed of ball movement- no stopping and propping which was a defining feature of our kick-mark game style

On another occasion, I’ve heard McQualter stress that the ball movement doesn’t need to be perfect but it does need to be quick

How it looks once they start genuine match type scrimmages will be interesting - particularly who adjusts and who doesn’t
Get Malaki up fwd

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We’ve all written Batman off but imagine if he comes good… another rabbit hole of endless possibilities.

Just putting it out into the universe… hope he gets after it this season.
If i remember correctly Barass started his career slowly and was playing wafl reserves in his first 2 seasons. Hopefully Batman has as good a career trajectory. Has all the tools.
 
If i remember correctly Barass started his career slowly and was playing wafl reserves in his first 2 seasons. Hopefully Batman has as good a career trajectory. Has all the tools.
Barrass was never that bad tho. Barrass played enough great footy in his second season that he plyed senior footy for a good side. Meanwhile Barnett was gifted two games and if he was playing footy back in 2015, he would have spent most of his time at reserves level.

What Barnett produced last season was pure filth and for hil to earn another contract extension he actually needs to have a huge break out year sorta of improvement
 
If i remember correctly Barass started his career slowly and was playing wafl reserves in his first 2 seasons. Hopefully Batman has as good a career trajectory. Has all the tools.

I'm as unsure on Barnett as anyone, but you would think the one thing we wouldve learnt over the years as WC supporters is to give big men some more time to make a proper assessment
 
Yeah, for a club where our hero stalwarts generally stick around a bit too long that they end up becoming the villain...

I felt like it was the total opposite for Jetta. Could've gone another season, perhaps two. Maybe they pitched him playing WAFL and he didn't go for it.
 
Jetta was injury prone at the end and suspect the club was getting tired by his lack of professionalism at times.

Think it was the 2018 Qualifying Final he almost missed because he was at home playing Call of Duty and lost track of time. Got stuck in traffic and ended up having to run across the bridge to make it to the ground before the first bounce.
 
Jetta was injury prone at the end and suspect the club was getting tired by his lack of professionalism at times.

Think it was the 2018 Qualifying Final he almost missed because he was at home playing Call of Duty and lost track of time. Got stuck in traffic and ended up having to run across the bridge to make it to the ground before the first bounce.
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