Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

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Right i'm old.

WTF is with all the posts with numbers in them. Is it a browser issue or just something I don't understand?

We had a West Coast BigFooty Board combine and people are posting their results. Any prospects you rate?

There's a certain physical metric that's being measured this afternoon, I hear Dark Sharks will be sitting out testing due to 'doctor's orders'.
 
I thought it was something only the cool kids understood.
nathan fillion castle GIF
 
Doing some drills in line groups now. Of note -

Maric and Barnett with the backs
Hunt and Duggan with the mids

Any other observations from training Keys?
(I feel entitled asking for more given how much you and LittleFires give us but screw it I'll be a leech) (also thank you and the updates are much appreciated)

Curious to hear how our mid tiers in both age and talent are doing, they're the tipping point one way or another this year IMO. Duggan, Hunt, Petch, BWilliams, Cole, Flynn, HEdwards etc - big years for all of them for different reasons. Any standouts amongst that group/type?

Edit: and mattyc75 also!
 
Liking Hall seems to got his burst speed back that ankle injury really stuffed his season never really got over it.

Impressed by Ginbey kicking looks like he has been working on it

Dewar moving well and is a lovely kick think he is best 22 now

Jack Williams and Harry Barnett both looking really good hopefully Barnett has turned a corner

Hunt training well
 

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I feel sad that I often forget critical information at the wrong time, but remember vividly the board falling for Nakia Cockatoo & the absolute annoyance Geelong drafting him the pick before us.

Duggan at 11 has well and truly become the better selection in the end.
He was a high risk high reward type player as opposed to Duggan, a more generic half back/midfielder type selection but more likely to succeed
 
I feel sad that I often forget critical information at the wrong time, but remember vividly the board falling for Nakia Cockatoo & the absolute annoyance Geelong drafting him the pick before us.

Duggan at 11 has well and truly become the better selection in the end.
Yeah Cockatoo turned out to be a total spud
 
For any of the regulars (Keys, LittleFires, etc) when would they typically train on Fridays? If there's reason to expect any particular time at all, that is.

I’ve been to 5 of the 7 sessions so far and whilst I’ve arrived a bit late for most of them so don’t know for sure, they’ve been pretty consistent starting at about 9.30

There’s only been one Friday session (last week) which I didn’t go to but I’ve no reason to think Fridays would be different. Maybe with warm weather expected tomorrow they might start a little earlier- 9.00 perhaps
 
Jack Williams and Harry Barnett both looking really good hopefully Barnett has turned a corner
We’ve all written Batman off but imagine if he comes good… another rabbit hole of endless possibilities.

Just putting it out into the universe… hope he gets after it this season.
 
We’ve all written Batman off but imagine if he comes good… another rabbit hole of endless possibilities.

Just putting it out into the universe… hope he gets after it this season.
Barnett coming on would solve a pretty huge issue for us.

I love this time of year - everyone training the house down, so much optimism for our list
 
I hope so but he's been on light duties every Wednesday training so far. Seems to do most/full main training on Monday and Fridays.

Wednesday is the lighter load session in comparison to Monday and Friday and it seems Hewett, along with a few others, is skipping Wednesdays presumably to manage training loads

Ryan, Hewett, Brockman, Kelly, Allen, McGovern and Dewar all seem to be absent or on light duties for Wednesday sessions despite seemingly training fine on the two Monday sessions I’ve been to. (Didn’t go last Friday so not sure what they did then)

It’s not panic stations yet because it’s really just the very beginning of preseason, but it’s low key concerning how many players aren’t in full training. In addition to those mentioned who are on modified programs -

• Sheed, Jamieson and Hutchinson have done two fifths of **** all and I wouldn’t expect to see them with the main group until after the Christmas break. And probably not straight away when they return either

• Yeo, Chesser and Petruccelle haven’t done much more than that either. Some light running and walking laps before disappearing after 30 minutes or so. (Hough did do some training early but has since joined that group)

• Long and Bazzo are running but look to be building their fitness base and aren’t participating in most of the group drills. Johnston has also been the same since adding an elbow brace to his training kit this week

So a bit over a third of the list aren’t training fully.

That said, my general observation is that they look to be easing into preseason training a little bit which admittedly has only involved the full list since Monday. Still plenty of work being done but I haven’t walked away from a session so far where I’ve thought that was brutal

Whilst there has been some just running during sessions, most of it is included as part of the drills which was a feature of last year’s training.

In comparison to last preseason there’s been more focus on skills, in particular moving the ball quickly by hand or foot - often through a zone defence sometimes with tackling and other times with frontal pressure. That also means they’re working in forcing turnovers.

Working on tackling technique has also been common

Last year there was a greater focus on contests and clearances with a lot of match sim style scrimmages either half or full ground. So this year there’s been less contact work and more ball movement/skills

Still early days though and I’d anticipate things to ramp up prior to the break

There was a drill yesterday where I could hear McQualter’s instructions that I think illustrate how he wants us to play differently

The drill involved moving the ball through a zone type defence by foot (no handball). Players were taking a mark then backpedaling a bit before taking their kick - the sort of thing I’d seen them practicing under Simpson to get back off the mark quickly and then move the ball on

McQualter stopped the drill to explain that he wanted them to mark, turn around and if nobody was coming up to stand the mark then kick the ball straight away or take the ground in front of them. Only go back if an opponent had shut down the space

It’s a little thing but the mindset is speed of ball movement- no stopping and propping which was a defining feature of our kick-mark game style

On another occasion, I’ve heard McQualter stress that the ball movement doesn’t need to be perfect but it does need to be quick

How it looks once they start genuine match type scrimmages will be interesting - particularly who adjusts and who doesn’t
 
Wednesday is the lighter load session in comparison to Monday and Friday and it seems Hewett, along with a few others, is skipping Wednesdays presumably to manage training loads

Ryan, Hewett, Brockman, Kelly, Allen, McGovern and Dewar all seem to be absent or on light duties for Wednesday sessions despite seemingly training fine on the two Monday sessions I’ve been to. (Didn’t go last Friday so not sure what they did then)

It’s not panic stations yet because it’s really just the very beginning of preseason, but it’s low key concerning how many players aren’t in full training. In addition to those mentioned who are on modified programs -

• Sheed, Jamieson and Hutchinson have done two fifths of **** all and I wouldn’t expect to see them with the main group until after the Christmas break. And probably not straight away when they return either

• Yeo, Chesser and Petruccelle haven’t done much more than that either. Some light running and walking laps before disappearing after 30 minutes or so. (Hough did do some training early but has since joined that group)

• Long and Bazzo are running but look to be building their fitness base and aren’t participating in most of the group drills. Johnston has also been the same since adding an elbow brace to his training kit this week

So a bit over a third of the list aren’t training fully.

That said, my general observation is that they look to be easing into preseason training a little bit which admittedly has only involved the full list since Monday. Still plenty of work being done but I haven’t walked away from a session so far where I’ve thought that was brutal

Whilst there has been some just running during sessions, most of it is included as part of the drills which was a feature of last year’s training.

In comparison to last preseason there’s been more focus on skills, in particular moving the ball quickly by hand or foot - often through a zone defence sometimes with tackling and other times with frontal pressure. That also means they’re working in forcing turnovers.

Working on tackling technique has also been common

Last year there was a greater focus on contests and clearances with a lot of match sim style scrimmages either half or full ground. So this year there’s been less contact work and more ball movement/skills

Still early days though and I’d anticipate things to ramp up prior to the break

There was a drill yesterday where I could hear McQualter’s instructions that I think illustrate how he wants us to play differently

The drill involved moving the ball through a zone type defence by foot (no handball). Players were taking a mark then backpedaling a bit before taking their kick - the sort of thing I’d seen them practicing under Simpson to get back off the mark quickly and then move the ball on

McQualter stopped the drill to explain that he wanted them to mark, turn around and if nobody was coming up to stand the mark then kick the ball straight away or take the ground in front of them. Only go back if an opponent had shut down the space

It’s a little thing but the mindset is speed of ball movement- no stopping and propping which was a defining feature of our kick-mark game style

On another occasion, I’ve heard McQualter stress that the ball movement doesn’t need to be perfect but it does need to be quick

How it looks once they start genuine match type scrimmages will be interesting - particularly who adjusts and who doesn’t
Will be interesting how this impacts individual player stats on disposal efficiency etc. Even if it massively improves our team over all it may be difficult for us to assess individual players on kicking efficiency for example.

Could see some poor efficiency stats for some of our backs/Mids/high forwards but see more score involvements/pressure acts/tackles/intercepts etc.
 

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