Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

[THE A5]

I think sheeds body is just cooked rather than him being lazy.

I think we missed the boat not looking to offload ryan.

Even before it being cooked he’s been a one way runner and his defensive side for an inaide mid has been very poor

 

[WA footy mad]

Over the past few years its been a lot about fitness, we couldnt run a game out & the skills were poor. Lets hope the new coach gets them fit enough to runout a game and the skill level starts to improve if this all happens we will be very competitive. Maybe not win a lot of games but hoping we look fit and keep running.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I thought last year it was all about contested work and match sim straight away?

Simspson tried to address the basics and just wanted our younger list to compete and be acclimatised to cracking in.


It worked of sorts, we were more competitive and had no 100pt blowouts, but the season clearly was still awful and he obviously got sacked. I'm not sure how i feel about us just totally binning that method and reverting back to "game plan" type stuff though. Worth perservering with for another pre season IMO.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Over the past few years its been a lot about fitness, we couldnt run a game out & the skills were poor. Lets hope the new coach gets them fit enough to runout a game and the skill level starts to improve if this all happens we will be very competitive. Maybe not win a lot of games but hoping we look fit and keep running.

Says a lot that Graham and Baker were our top two in last weeks time trial beep test thingy. Staggers me how standards fell so low when guys like Hurn were still at the club up until this year.

 

[We_The_West]

Says a lot that Graham and Baker were our top two in last weeks time trial beep test thingy. Staggers me how standards fell so low when guys like Hurn were still at the club up until this year.

Top 2 and also coming from the wooden spoon team...

I think bringing these 2 in will have more of an indirect impact on our performance than direct.

They look like natural leaders and unfortunately most of our senior players have been so banged up from injury they can barely get on the park anymore let alone set an elite standard for the upcoming youth

 

[mattyc75]

Another session in the books

Continued focus primarily on skills and ball movement. Bit of work on positioning to set up for a turnover and then transition the ball forward

Some contested work but nothing like last year at this stage. Finished the session with a few 400m runs

Didn’t see - McGovern, Brockman, Dewar, Livingstone, Johnston and Cole (who did make a late and very brief appearance)

Long, Chesser and Reid did some stationary work for maybe 20 minutes or so before leaving

Jamieson, Hutchinson, Sheed, Yeo Hough and Petruccelle all did rehab work to varying extents but all look a bit away from joining the main group. Don’t think any of them will participate in a meaningful way this side of Christmas

Thoughts on a few players from today
• Ryan is fine when the balls are out but struggles with the running (didn’t do the last few 400m runs) There’s work to do on his tank and he will be interesting to see if that impacts selection should it not improve
• Baker is becoming increasingly vocal on the track and his leadership that was spoken of pre-draft is showing through. I know we paid a high price for him but I’m starting to see the attraction
• Hewett is being managed so he doesn’t overdo it but when he is involved in drills his speed and power is noticeable. Still a long way to R1 but if he gets through preseason unscathed he can have a real impact
• Duggan is low key having a good preseason and looks in pretty good shape. Perhaps a bit bigger in his shoulders from memory
• Hough I’ve not really seen this preseason but he was doing some run throughs with Yeo on the boundary. He looks to have added even more size and was hard to tell apart from Yeo. If anything he’s a bit bigger than him
• Flynn is covering the ground well. Lead the big men in the runs. Seems determined to make up for last year
• Gross showed some nice clean hands in a couple of the ball movement drills
• Bazzo did a fair bit of the main session but not all as he works his way back to fitness
• There was a new face in training that looked like Harley Sparks from our WAFL team

Flynn looks to have slimmed down which is good.
Ryan's preseasons never are too impressive. He still manages to cover a lot of ground in games tho

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[squashface]

Even before it being cooked he’s been a one way runner and his defensive side for an inaide mid has been very poor

Still recovering from his pec injury

 

[Cuzz09]

Ryan... Owies... yeah ok

Give me Crippa and Malakai up forward at the feet of Jake and Oscar please

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[garlic munchers]

Even before it being cooked he’s been a one way runner and his defensive side for an inaide mid has been very poor

Sheed's last quarter of the 2018 GF was enormous, with multiple contests and hard 2 way running and his goal often over shadows those other contributions.

Post 2018, its almost like he was content with what he had achieved previously and I suspect him not going on with it was a combo of not being able to get his body right and Simmo being incapable of delivering hard truths/making demands of the 2018 coterie.

In fact Sheed's and Simmo's winding down of their careers have a lot of similarities, with both going out with a whimper.

Mind you, still living off the 2018 glory, with the GF saved to foxtel and still getting a run every couple of months (mainly at around 1am after getting home from beers) - thanks sheed/simmo.

That and Rd 6 2024 (Jackson getting pawned by BW repeatedly in marking contests, is epic)

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Ryan... Owies... yeah ok

Give me Crippa and Malakai up forward at the feet of Jake and Oscar please

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Good competition for spots, Dewar and Long will be putting their hands up as well.
May the players who’ve worked the hardest on the track and shown the most form get picked.
Watching Gaff play week after week for about a year, whilst being terribly out of form, slow, not able to kick over a jam tin, was terrible for everyone, players, club, AFL, supporters and probably most importantly him.
No more Credits!

 

[Bender_]

Good competition for spots, Dewar and Long will be putting their hands up as well.
May the players who’ve worked the hardest on the track and shown the most form get picked.
Watching Gaff play week after week for about a year, whilst being terribly out of form, slow, not able to kick over a jam tin, was terrible for everyone, players, club, AFL, supporters and probably most importantly him.
No more Credits!

Gaff barely played last season.

 

[eaglevision]

Sheed's last quarter of the 2018 GF was enormous, with multiple contests and hard 2 way running and his goal often over shadows these other contributions.

Watch him in the last two minutes after his goal. He impacts the contest in the middle multiple times and had he gone off the ground rather than back to the square the outcome of that match and history could have been very different.

Sheed is never going to return to the player he was with his foot injury and his legacy will always be that goal but when the grand final was still there to be won or lost he was immense.

 

[Astro7]

The competition for spots has really increased and with a coach who has said it's a clean slate, you'd reckon the heat is on for everybody to put in the work. With some new and younger players setting the standard, they'd all be busting a gut. There'd be no room for cruisers (includes TK and Ryan, even Cripps. Not sure if Sheed will get a gig)

 

[Chris_6678]

Sheed's last quarter of the 2018 GF was enormous, with multiple contests and hard 2 way running and his goal often over shadows these other contributions.

Post 2018, its almost like he was content with what he had achieved after that and I suspect him not going on with it was a combo of not being able to get his body right and Simmo being incapable of delivering hard truths/making demands of the 2018 coterie.

In fact Sheed's and Simmo's winding down of their careers have a lot of similarities, with both going out with a whimper.

Mind you, still living off the 2018 glory, with the GF saved to foxtel and still getting a run every couple of months (mainly at around 1am after getting home from beers) - thanks sheed/simmo.

That and Rd 6 2024 (Jackson getting pawned by BW repeatedly in marking contests, is epic)

Mmmm id argue his 2019 season was his best after backing up his 2018 GF performance.

 

[Keys]

The competition for spots has really increased and with a coach who has said it's a clean slate, you'd reckon the heat is on for everybody to put in the work. With some new and younger players setting the standard, they'd all be busting a gut. There'd be no room for cruisers (includes TK and Ryan, even Cripps. Not sure if Sheed will get a gig)

Cripps always was, and remains, one of our strongest trainers

And his work rate in games is immense.

There’s a reason why Owies said he wanted number 16 so he could be next to Cripps in the locker room and that’s to learn off him

 

[woosha24]

Says a lot that Graham and Baker were our top two in last weeks time trial beep test thingy. Staggers me how standards fell so low when guys like Hurn were still at the club up until this year.

Flipping hell if that's true then we're starting further back than I thought.

WTF happened to this club!?

 

[Astro7]

Cripps always was, and remains, one of our strongest trainers

And his work rate in games is immense.

There’s a reason why Owies said he wanted number 16 so he could be next to Cripps in the locker room and that’s to learn off him

Agree, am not a Cripps basher, was more in reply to other comments, meant more as 'even Cripps with his work rate' would still be aware of the pressure for spots, not a given any more...not implying that there are cruisers. Some seem to think TK and Ryan are cruisers, maybe persistent injuries help create that line of thought, but whatever, the pressure would be on all to perform to their best to get a gig with a new coach? And it should be like that always regardless of how long the coach has been there.

 

[Astro7]

Flipping hell if that's true then we're starting further back than I thought.

WTF happened to this club!?

It's complicated, put simply - covid, extensive injuries over 2 seasons, Simmo?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Flipping hell if that's true then we're starting further back than I thought.

WTF happened to this club!?

I'm unsure how you could have watched the last 3 years and still been suprised by this

 

[flamingEMBERS]

It's complicated, put simply - covid, extensive injuries over 2 seasons, Simmo?

This has been a 5 year spiral and it starts with
Premiership stoner Billy Rioli.

2019 Rioli incident
2020 return from COVID fat and sloppy. Had a great run at the end of the year but left it too late.
2021 credits
2022 credits, covid & injuries
2023 injuries and pure shit
2024 start of the upswing. Simmo had to stay this year so Pyke could hire the coach.

Really is grim looking at it

 

[LittleFires]

Here I was thinking that our new recruits performing well in the fitness test would be seen as a good thing

 

[Barrybran]

Here I was thinking that our new recruits performing well in the fitness test would be seen as a good thing

The glass is always half empty on the internet

 

[RanaNaved]

Here I was thinking that our new recruits performing well in the fitness test would be seen as a good thing

It's not like Graham isn't a great runner either. Hardwick in a Jack Graham article I found said "he's an incredible aerobic beast" and "he gut runs as well as anyone I've ever seen". Baker is also an outstanding runner, so it's no surprise they were the two best runners

 

[amazingjoshy]

Here I was thinking that our new recruits performing well in the fitness test would be seen as a good thing

It is. It's the exact reason they were recruited for

 

[HawkerHurricane]

SWFL won a Hayward medal with highest score ever recorded.

Carey Park boy!