Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

[Keys]

Players return to the club from their Christmas break on January 9

 

[garlic munchers]

Mmmm id argue his 2019 season was his best after backing up his 2018 GF performance.

Yep arguable.

Sheed started 2019 on fire, but had dropped off considerably in output by the pointy end of the season (inc finals).

In comparison, his interrupted 2018 season culminated with his last 5 games (including finals), being far superior to his last 5 games of 2019.

 

[boondy]

Says a lot that Graham and Baker were our top two in last weeks time trial beep test thingy. Staggers me how standards fell so low when guys like Hurn were still at the club up until this year.

And yet some compared Graham to Sheed

 

[Keys]

Says a lot that Graham and Baker were our top two in last weeks time trial beep test thingy. Staggers me how standards fell so low when guys like Hurn were still at the club up until this year.

Flipping hell if that's true then we're starting further back than I thought.

WTF happened to this club!?

Bit of context might help here

• The finishing order was Graham, Cole, Baker with little separating them
• Part of the reason we recruited Baker and Graham was said to be their high training standards so it should’ve been expected for them to do well
• Another part of the reason they were recruited was we lacked numbers in their age group. They’re both 26 and essentially in their physical prime with several preseasons under their belt
• Players in that same age group are - Petruccelle (25) - on a modified program and didn’t participate

• Allen (25) - KPF not expected to outrun mids
• Waterman (26) - hasn’t been in full training but wasn’t too far behind
• Flynn (27) - ruck, see Oscar
• Owies (27) - forget where he finished tbh
• Duggan (28) - hasn’t been as good a runner due to his ongoing knee management. Still wasn’t far back though
• Ryan (28) - training hasn’t been his strong point and has been discussed in this thread
• Sheed (29) - didn’t participate
• Hunt (29) - wasn’t far back from memory
• Kelly (30) - he could be fitter tbh but may still be working his way back from his knee/hip issues that he battled with last season

• Ginbey had done the same test with the young group. He’d have beaten both of them
• At Essendon and the Bulldogs, a new draftee won their time trials so I’m not sure we need to worry about two seasoned veterans winning ours

Just saying

Be pleased they’ve come as advertised, it’s a good thing they did well

 

[Bender_]

Bit of context might help here

• The finishing order was Graham, Cole, Baker with little separating them
• Part of the reason we recruited Baker and Graham was said to be their high training standards so it should’ve been expected for them to do well
• Another part of the reason they were recruited was we lacked numbers in their age group. They’re both 26 and essentially in their physical prime with several preseasons under their belt
• Players in that same age group are - Petruccelle (25) - on a modified program and didn’t participate

• Allen (25) - KPF not expected to outrun mids
• Waterman (26) - hasn’t been in full training but wasn’t too far behind
• Flynn (27) - ruck, see Oscar
• Owies (27) - forget where he finished tbh
• Duggan (28) - hasn’t been as good a runner due to his ongoing knee management. Still wasn’t far back though
• Ryan (28) - training hasn’t been his strong point and has been discussed in this thread
• Sheed (29) - didn’t participate
• Hunt (29) - wasn’t far back from memory
• Kelly (30) - he could be fitter tbh but may still be working his way back from his knee/hip issues that he battled with last season

• Ginbey had done the same test with the young group. He’d have beaten both of them
• At Essendon and the Bulldogs, a new draftee won their time trials so I’m not sure we need to worry about two seasoned veterans winning ours

Just saying

Be pleased they’ve come as advertised, it’s a good thing they did well

Imagine the uproar if they didn't FFS.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Delist em, IMO

 

[bombard]

Here I was thinking that our new recruits performing well in the fitness test would be seen as a good thing

Hello and welcome to bigfooty.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Gaff barely played last season.

Where did I write last season?

 

[Grahame]

Hello and welcome to bigfooty.

Yeah I think there’s a lot of people here need to go into the room of mirrors.
Some of the stuff posted at the height of the trade-draft ‘panic’ were misrepresentations, simply wrong and/or vindictive.
Sadly, it gave me some small insight into the unbelievable mob dynamics that we saw in America.

 

[Bender_]

Where did I write last season?

So you were complaining about credits from 2 seasons ago, when last season it was obvious he was no longer receiving the same treatment?

Might need to move on mate.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

So you were complaining about credits from 2 seasons ago, when last season it was obvious he was no longer receiving the same treatment?

Might need to move on mate.

No you just needed to get it right, what we need to move on from is Simmo style credits.
We have with a new football department, so hopefully we will base our selections around form not favourites.
The actual discussion was over how many options we have for our forward line, Including Long, Ryan, Malakai, Cripps, Dewar, Owies and what a good problem it was to have.

 

[rub won out]

Yeah I think there’s a lot of people here need to go into the room of mirrors.
Some of the stuff posted at the height of the trade-draft ‘panic’ were misrepresentations, simply wrong and/or vindictive.
Sadly, it gave me some small insight into the unbelievable mob dynamics that we saw in America.

I agree, I really hate any negativity directed at Baker, Graham or Owies. Its pathetic.

Far out, imagine having quality B22 footballers in their prime that want to play at our club. How lucky are we? People forget how hard it is to recruit players in. Look at North for example who have also been terrible of late, the only players they get are players like Darling and Parker who are trying to squeeze a few more years.

We have recruited a bloke like Baker who a lot of Tiger supporters would give back pick 14 in a heartbeat to get him back, a bloke that would be their captain this year if he stayed. We also got a ready made 30 goal forward and a tough premiership midfielder in Graham. These are players that we have been crying out for the last couple of years.

Some people need to get a grip, I just hope that any of these recruits we have welcomed to the club recently don't read this forum.

 

[Ghossein]

sorry I thought Gaff retired my mistake

 

[TheNewAnchor]

I agree, I really hate any negativity directed at Baker, Graham or Owies. Its pathetic.

Far out, imagine having quality B22 footballers in their prime that want to play at our club. How lucky are we? People forget how hard it is to recruit players in. Look at North for example who have also been terrible of late, the only players they get are players like Darling and Parker who are trying to squeeze a few more years.

We have recruited a bloke like Baker who a lot of Tiger supporters would give back pick 14 in a heartbeat to get him back, a bloke that would be their captain this year if he stayed. We also got a ready made 30 goal forward and a tough premiership midfielder in Graham. These are players that we have been crying out for the last couple of years.

Some people need to get a grip, I just hope that any of these recruits we have welcomed to the club recently don't read this forum.

I hope they do, nothing wrong with having a good laugh at some of the crap that gets posted on here. Furthermore, if they (unfortunately) do venture on here I'm sure they're well equipped emotionally to deal with it.

 

[THE A5]

Mmmm id argue his 2019 season was his best after backing up his 2018 GF performance.

Think 2018 finals and 2019 we’re probably the only two times in his career he was able to play his natural role as a balanced mid. Spent a lot of HFF/Wing early in his career and was always in and out of the side. During Covid years injuries injuries meant he was being used as an extractor. Got a lot of the ball there but due to the lack of size/speed/strength he used the ball terribly. After that injuries really derailed his career.

 

[BeornJ]

Bit of context might help here

• The finishing order was Graham, Cole, Baker with little separating them
• Part of the reason we recruited Baker and Graham was said to be their high training standards so it should’ve been expected for them to do well
• Another part of the reason they were recruited was we lacked numbers in their age group. They’re both 26 and essentially in their physical prime with several preseasons under their belt
• Players in that same age group are - Petruccelle (25) - on a modified program and didn’t participate

• Allen (25) - KPF not expected to outrun mids
• Waterman (26) - hasn’t been in full training but wasn’t too far behind
• Flynn (27) - ruck, see Oscar
• Owies (27) - forget where he finished tbh
• Duggan (28) - hasn’t been as good a runner due to his ongoing knee management. Still wasn’t far back though
• Ryan (28) - training hasn’t been his strong point and has been discussed in this thread
• Sheed (29) - didn’t participate
• Hunt (29) - wasn’t far back from memory
• Kelly (30) - he could be fitter tbh but may still be working his way back from his knee/hip issues that he battled with last season

• Ginbey had done the same test with the young group. He’d have beaten both of them
• At Essendon and the Bulldogs, a new draftee won their time trials so I’m not sure we need to worry about two seasoned veterans winning ours

Just saying

Be pleased they’ve come as advertised, it’s a good thing they did well

I also remember people moaning because Waterman was training the house down last pre-season. Turned out pretty well for us.

 

[mattyc75]

Sheed's last quarter of the 2018 GF was enormous, with multiple contests and hard 2 way running and his goal often over shadows those other contributions.

Post 2018, its almost like he was content with what he had achieved previously and I suspect him not going on with it was a combo of not being able to get his body right and Simmo being incapable of delivering hard truths/making demands of the 2018 coterie.

In fact Sheed's and Simmo's winding down of their careers have a lot of similarities, with both going out with a whimper.

Mind you, still living off the 2018 glory, with the GF saved to foxtel and still getting a run every couple of months (mainly at around 1am after getting home from beers) - thanks sheed/simmo.

That and Rd 6 2024 (Jackson getting pawned by BW repeatedly in marking contests, is epic)

Up until gaff wacked brayshaw sheed was in and out of the team. He certainly made the most of gaffs brain fart. In and out of the team is pretty much as good as it should've gotten for him

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[TheBudgies]

Flipping hell if that's true then we're starting further back than I thought.

WTF happened to this club!?

It isn't exactly true. The fitness test was run for non-1st to 4th year players who were not in reduced loads + Draftees. They did come first and second but a number of players were pulled out of the test before it finished.

Hamish Davis for example can run all day but was stopped early because he had achieved the maximum that was planned for his program. I would suggest we don't overreact every time someone is managed, we have heaps of kids and it's a long season.

 

[TheBudgies]

sorry I thought Gaff retired my mistake

Based on BigFooty i think he's lining up at CHF and we're delisting Oscar.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

It isn't exactly true. The fitness test was run for non-1st to 4th year players who were not in reduced loads + Draftees. They did come first and second but a number of players were pulled out of the test before it finished.

Hamish Davis for example can run all day but was stopped early because he had achieved the maximum that was planned for his program. I would suggest we don't overreact every time someone is managed, we have heaps of kids and it's a long season.

Seriously.... do you know where you are?

 

[Cuzz09]

I can't see how Sheed gets a game with this new style



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[Bleedblueandgold]

I can't see how Sheed gets a game.

 

[RanaNaved]

I can't see Sheed

 

[PremiershipNo4]

sorry I thought Gaff retired my mistake

Lest we forget!
Let’s never bring up any historical points again, in a forum where the majority of the time you discuss past events.
Hey Ghossein, I suggest it would be a good idea if you had a look at Australia’s manufacturing sector in the 1930’s before onset of world war 2, the earth was flat and all we had to do was to rely on mother England for protection, until of course they being relentlessly attacked and had no spare weapons.
There is much to learned from history and making the same mistakes, ridiculously long contracts for example, is something that recent history can warn us against.
Or if you like, anytime you bring up anything from the past I can remind you of your hypocrisy?

 

[eaglevision]

 

[Elite Pete]

I hope we see Banfield, Walley and Evans out there for us soon