Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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[johncitizen]

I like Mark Korda thus far. He isn't hogging the MSM like Ed. He has said Graham Wright is in charge of football operation.
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indicated he is extremely intelligent.

Browne is just another Ed.

Low key Presidents are always the best.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

The club has always had factional issues at board level for several decades.

McGuire largely kept it at bay, but it’s resurfacing now.

1950 = Bervyn Woods coaching saga which divided players and staff and led to the departures of Harry Curtis and Bob Rush.

1963 = Sherrin vs Galbally civil war.

1974 = The rise of Ern Clarke. Gone 17 months after he’s elected by the members.

1982 = New Magpies led by Ranald MacDonald. Club is broke in ‘85/86.

1998 = Appointment of Eddie McGuire.

2021 = Korda vs Browne civil war

 

[76woodenspooners]

The Board is ducking and weaving.

The current management have been consistent all along.

Hatley met with them at the start of this process to understand what was required, and his group then went out and executed. This whole “give us the membership register” thing came later.

Obviously the petition group does not trust the Board.

… and obviously the board does not trust the petition group.

Here’s the difference: the petition group have nothing to lose.

By contrast if co-founder of Korda Mentha, CEO of Toll Global Express, Founder of PAN Group, Chairman of VRC, Co-CEO of PWC indigenous consulting, etc, etc are busted for breaching the corporations act, then that has much bigger consequences than losing access to a corporate box on gameday.

The process required is quite clear.

If it were clear then it would have been resolved six weeks ago.

 

[johncitizen]

The club has always had factional issues at board level for several decades.

McGuire largely kept it at bay, but it’s resurfacing now.

1950 = Bervyn Woods coaching debacle which divided players and staff and led to the departures of Harry Curtis and Bob Rush.

1963 = Sherrin vs Galbally civil war.

1974 = The rise of Ern Clarke. Gone 17 months after he’s elected by the members.

1982 = New Magpies led by Ranald MacDonald. Club is broke in ‘85/86.

1998 = Appointment of Eddie McGuire.

2021 = Korda vs Browne civil war

McGuire was at times cringeworthy as was Malthouse. It was like Hollywood. We will make Collingwood the Manchester United of the AFL. The announcement of MM and the unveiling of him as coach was embarrassing at best.

Never seen anything like this in any other sports.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I sense there’s some divided loyalty for McGuire who’s worked closely with Browne and Korda for long periods.

Maybe. I’m also conscious that Ed has sometimes qualified his silence with a comment along the lines of “I’m going to keep my counsel for now”

 

[NMBB]

The club has always had factional issues at board level for several decades.

McGuire largely kept it at bay, but it’s resurfacing now.

1950 = Bervyn Woods coaching saga which divided players and staff and led to the departures of Harry Curtis and Bob Rush.

1963 = Sherrin vs Galbally civil war.

1974 = The rise of Ern Clarke. Gone 17 months after he’s elected by the members.

1982 = New Magpies led by Ranald MacDonald. Club is broke in ‘85/86.

1998 = Appointment of Eddie McGuire.

2021 = Korda vs Browne civil war

Go Pies - the drama club - flags are cute but not core business

 

[MyManLynch]

Another point on the petition.
Did the petition ask “Do you want to hold an EGM to overthrow the current Board & replace with Jeff Browne & his 6 others?
Or did the petition simply ask about Collingwood Members being unhappy about certain aspects regarding Social Club facilities, Club interaction with Members etc.
If it’s the 2nd part, then Galbelly & Browne are highjacking the petition to suit their own political agenda.
I would love to know the wording of the petition.

nb AmericanMustard was also querying how the petition was presented to members

 

[76woodenspooners]

Another point on the petition.
Did the petition ask “Do you want to hold an EGM to overthrow the current Board & replace with Jeff Browne & his 6 others?
Or did the petition simply ask about Collingwood Members being unhappy about certain aspects regarding Social Club facilities, Club interaction with Members etc.
If it’s the 2nd part, then Galbelly & Browne are highjacking the petition to suit their own political agenda.
I would love to know the wording of the petition.

nb AmericanMustard was also querying how the petition was presented

(FYI AmericanMustard )

You can read the wording here …

Magpie Voice - Collingwood EGM Signature Capture

Collingwood Football Club Limited - Requisition by Ordinary Members to convene a General Meeting

magpievoice.com

“To the Collingwood Football Club Limited
Requisition by Ordinary Members to convene a General Meeting

We the undersigned Ordinary Members of Collingwood Football Club Limited (“the Club”) hereby requisition the Board of Management of the Club to convene a General Meeting, pursuant to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Club and the Corporations Law, for the specific purpose of considering and voting on the following special resolution:

Special Resolution
This General Meeting moves that:

1. All Board of Management positions of the Club are immediately declared vacant;
2. An election, pursuant to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Club and the Corporations Law, be conducted to elect seven (7) members to the Board of Management of the Club;
3. An independent Returning Officer, being a nominee of either the Victorian Electoral Commissioner or the Australian Electoral Commissioner, be appointed to conduct the election; and
4. That the members of the Board of Management immediately prior to the passing of this resolution act in a caretaker capacity only until the conclusion of the election process.”

 

[76woodenspooners]

Go Pies - the drama club - flags are cute but not core business

The problem is that nobody can agree on the best way to win them

 

[Mkcaptain]

(FYI AmericanMustard )

You can read the wording here …

Magpie Voice - Collingwood EGM Signature Capture

Collingwood Football Club Limited - Requisition by Ordinary Members to convene a General Meeting

magpievoice.com

If lots of their signatures came from there then I can see why they would be nervous about how many non-voting members signed.




The only cull of ineligible signatures they'll be able to do is through discounting people who said No to Q7.

 

[NMBB]

The problem is that nobody can agree on the best way to win them

Certainly not us.

 

[MyManLynch]

(FYI AmericanMustard )

You can read the wording here …

Magpie Voice - Collingwood EGM Signature Capture

Collingwood Football Club Limited - Requisition by Ordinary Members to convene a General Meeting

magpievoice.com

“To the Collingwood Football Club Limited
Requisition by Ordinary Members to convene a General Meeting

We the undersigned Ordinary Members of Collingwood Football Club Limited (“the Club”) hereby requisition the Board of Management of the Club to convene a General Meeting, pursuant to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Club and the Corporations Law, for the specific purpose of considering and voting on the following special resolution:

Special Resolution
This General Meeting moves that:

1. All Board of Management positions of the Club are immediately declared vacant;
2. An election, pursuant to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Club and the Corporations Law, be conducted to elect seven (7) members to the Board of Management of the Club;
3. An independent Returning Officer, being a nominee of either the Victorian Electoral Commissioner or the Australian Electoral Commissioner, be appointed to conduct the election; and
4. That the members of the Board of Management immediately prior to the passing of this resolution act in a caretaker capacity only until the conclusion of the election process.”

Thanks for that.
I still wonder how this was presented to the members.
The underlying reason why you should sign the petition.

 

[Lockyer24]

How have we been poorly run?

• From a purely financial standpoint, we have been one of the biggest clubs who have been able to support themselves, which is something that only a few others can attest to.
• The salary cap issues of 2020 were a risk v reward secnario and quite frankly, I would find it hard to believe anyone here would have made many different decisions at the time:
  • Big push after 2018 to keep the list together for another crack, only to fall agonizingly short in a prelim
  • If we had have won 2018 or 19, this would have come across as a success
  • Unfortunately it didnt, and it only looks bad in hindsight
• We have been able to attract large sponsors and arguably one of the biggest apparel designers for our current kit.
• Senior figures have been moved on due to the way they have presented information, Eddie was moved on based on one too many poor comments which are unacceptable in this day and age, Buckley has been moved on as it was unlikely he was the right person to move forward with the current list
• Senior figures have been appointed, Graeme Wright has been brought in to steer the ship from an on field operational perspective

I would be negligent to suggest that the current board and state of the club is perfect, however I don't see their current tenure as being poorly run. I will concede that the appointment of Bridie was poor however, as she has clearly jumped through a few hoops which should not be allowed.

Whilst Flags are the ultimate measure of success, it is not the be all and end all. We have played in 5 grand finals in the past 20 years, only winning one and coming agonizingly close in others - being able to put us in a position to get to the 5 grand finals is as much as the board can do, then its over to the players.

There is nothing at the present to suggest that the group planning to take over are any better than the incumbent

Well run clubs haven’t had our level of salary cap pain and they have been way more successful.

I’m not sure it’s worth going any further if your roses coloured glasses can’t see even past that one.

 

[Collingwoodity]

Club’s response. As a member I’d much rather an independent verification as I’m not comfortable with even just my name being given out.

Reading this, I don't think either Browne or Korda are fit to lead this club.

 

[MyManLynch]

Reading this, I don't think either Browne or Korda are fit to lead this club.

Bring back Eddie?

 

[Collingwoodity]

Bring back Eddie?

Pendlebury as President, Coach and Captain IMO

 

[Collingwoodity]

What’s this nonsense about hostile takeovers and bullying?

Take it to the vote and whoever wins will be in power.
Simple as that.

It isn’t that hard—-its obvious that those in power will do anything to stay in power.

I’ve never been more convinced that this board needs to go

That's my concern too.

If Browne wants to be President without being voted in then he can piss off.
If Korda wants to remain as President without being voted in then he can piss off too.*

* Not sure there is an if here based on Korda's conduct.

 

[jackcass]

It was in reference to the EGM....which they are clearly dragging out

I know what you were referring to. Petitioners can submit their petition for independent evaluation at any time. They're the ones dragging it out.

 

[jackcass]

Go Pies - the drama club - flags are cute but not core business

Does any club have any less drama in their history?

 

[Spuddd]

Well run clubs haven’t had our level of salary cap pain and they have been way more successful.

I’m not sure it’s worth going any further if your roses coloured glasses can’t see even past that one.

I've said it numerous times on this board but we handled the salary cap situation differently than other clubs, not better or worse but differently.

'Keeping the band together' for 19 and 20 was clearly the strategy, we had very little list turnover during this period which meant that there needed to be a dump of players come the end of the season. Based on current outputs, I would hazard a guess that the biggest loss we are currently encountering is the 300k or so that we are apparently paying WB. Treloar cant get on the park, Stephenson has played one good game for the year, Philips was superfluous to needs and Atu cant even crack into the worst side.

If we had have kept these players and missed finals in 2021, which would have been just as likely as it is today, I would think the narrative turns from how much we are overpaying these players vs their output...

The strategy nearly worked, but it didn't. One thing for sure though is the board gave the playing group every opportunity over those two years.

This cap pain has been purely on the back of keeping the list together for a tilt, don't forget pre 2019 we were up to our eyeballs in recruiting Lynch, so this hasn't been a long burn. In fact, if we had of signed Lynch, we would have lost a lot more than the 2020 off season crop.

 

[Mukesh]

If the board is breaching it’s responsibilities under the corporations act to handover the registry of members as it is intended...then its clear they can no longer govern and should be thrown out. Fancy trying to control your own fate against the interests of the club and its members.

the operative word being.. 'If'...

 

[NMBB]

Does any club have any less drama in their history?

Short answer = No

 

[NMBB]

Would be a handy addition to the Board

 

[sr36]

Club’s response. As a member I’d much rather an independent verification as I’m not comfortable with even just my name being given out.

Bloody marketers dream. Hey guys there's a footy Club that are handing out their register for free. You've just got to claim you've got a petition, which doesn't even need to be verified.

 

[TradeDraft]