Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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Reyk, I'm ridiculously happy to see you posting! :)

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[barrackers]

Thinking about the short term president comments and it would fit with the last time we had a long term big personality prior to McGuire. On that occasion Kevin Rose was president for only a few years after McAlister's tenure ended. Kevin Rose was also much quieter than his predecessor.

 

[sideswipe]

because he's been there the longest... he rarely attends all the board meetings each year.... i tend to wonder why you support him so much. Listen, if he gave you a hot tip on the exchange or something similar, I can understand it.

I don’t support him in any particular way. You were the one who mentioned me in relation to him. If I was to make an uninformed assessment of the bloke I would see him as a clearly successful businessman who likely brings plenty to the table. He is no dill.

To me, he seems to fly very much under the radar. That you call him a “show pony” says more about you than him.


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[Good_Old]

My hope is that he hasn't seen/heard/read the perceived issues the football world had with Eddie and try to over-correct. That's certainly how that interview came across to me. Saying all the right things, telling us everything he thinks we want to hear. For all his shortcomings Eddie was a staunch fighter/defender of everything we have - Anzac day, jumper clashes, poort trying to wear their sanfl affiliate's jumper in the afl. Fingers crossed none of that is eroded.

Back to the shadows for me.

 

[Markfs]

I don’t support him in any particular way. You were the one who mentioned me in relation to him. If I was to make an uninformed assessment of the bloke I would see him as a clearly successful businessman who likely brings plenty to the table. He is no dill.

To me, he seems to fly very much under the radar. That you call him a “show pony” says more about you than him.


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so he invents what he calls a "global citizen" award which he allocates $100K to..... and remember he is a billionaire. And he rides this pittance of a sum to New York on an annual basis, where he portrays himself as a philanthropist .....and you say that he is low key? The response that my attitude to him says more about me is probably true. I'd like genuine people to be involved with the club. Guilty as charged, your honour.

 

[sideswipe]

so he invents what he calls a "global citizen" award which he allocates $100K to..... and remember he is a billionaire. And he rides this pittance of a sum to New York on an annual basis, where he portrays himself as a philanthropist .....and you say that he is low key? The response that my attitude to him says more about me is probably true. I'd like genuine people to be involved with the club. Guilty as charged, your honour.

So is your problem that his award is too small or that it has been created?


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[Markfs]

So is your problem that his award is too small or that it has been created?


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my problem is with people who operate strategically to promote themselves. i dont like it that he has used the club for his CV for 20 years. He's not the only director to do it, but his part-time approach seems to be accepted by people at the club and the supporters themselves. I see buckley getting blamed for things that he is only a part of, but waislitz is vice president of the club and he doesnt even get mentioned in the storm that has arisen at board level in recent months. Vice president. You had a go at Kennedy but at least he was involved in other aspects of the club, even if he only doing it for selfish reasons. Waislitz is like a weak handshake....

so what is waislitz? a billionaire.... a man who is successful in measures that our society values. a man who has made himself a lot of money. i just dont see what the club gets in return for portraying this man as something more than what he is.

 

[sideswipe]

my problem is with people who operate strategically to promote themselves. i dont like it that he has used the club for his CV for 20 years. He's not the only director to do it, but his part-time approach seems to be accepted by people at the club and the supporters themselves. I see buckley getting blamed for things that he is only a part of, but waislitz is vice president of the club and he doesnt even get mentioned in the storm that has arisen at board level in recent months. Vice president. You had a go at Kennedy but at least he was involved in other aspects of the club, even if he only doing it for selfish reasons. Waislitz is like a weak handshake....

so what is waislitz? a billionaire.... a man who is successful in measures that our society values. a man who has made himself a lot of money. i just dont see what the club gets in return for portraying this man as something more than what he is.

Sorry, how did I have a go at Kennedy? He has been a great servant of the club (except when he told all and sundry that we had secured Lockett). I was merely questioning why another long-serving VP seemed to avoid your opprobrium?

Think you over-estimate the "CV boost" for someone like a Waislitz. Sounds to me that the bottom line is you don't like him because he has money?

 

[Collingwoodity]

Sorry, how did I have a go at Kennedy? He has been a great servant of the club (except when he told all and sundry that we had secured Lockett). I was merely questioning why another long-serving VP seemed to avoid your opprobrium?

Think you over-estimate the "CV boost" for someone like a Waislitz. Sounds to me that the bottom line is you don't like him because he has money?

He is saying he does not like him using Collingwood to self-promote.

 

[sideswipe]

He is saying he does not like him using Collingwood to self-promote.

And my response to that is to ask where is this self-promotion? What is it about his presence on the board that constitutes self-promotion?

 

[76woodenspooners]

if he’s interested I’d pick Jeff Brown over Holgate as CEO, given his deep knowledge of AFL.
McGuire being connected to both, makes that issue moot, so Browne is the better candidate IMO.
Holgate obviously ticks the diversity box and is very capable, but I’m backing deep knowledge of the inner workings of the AFL which could be exploitable.

Strongly doubt any board candidates would have any interest whatsoever in becoming CEO.

CEO is a full time paid gig. I’d imagine that any serious board candidate could earn a lot more money and have a lot more fun doing something else other than being CEO of Collingwood.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

If I was the GW I'd waltz straight in to the Kord's office.. and just tell him straight out.. 'let's replace The Harv the Sand and the Buck with the Walt the Ot and the ****en Niiiiiiiid maaaaan'.

No messing about mate.. that's it mate.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Sounds like the best choice to me. Murphy sounds like he was indifferent as to whether he wanted the gig. The outsiders didnt seem to have particularly strong or relevant CV''s. Whilst Browne was too late to the party and is too close to Maguire and Buckley... not to mention a bit to connected to a major media personality. After Maguire, a president without media connections would be preferred.

Has got off on the right foot saying some things that need to be said. I am surprised that he also mentioned the Grundy contract. I'm also surprised that while he was apologetic for the manner of the Treloar exit, he was equally unapologetic for the Stephenson and Phillips exits. SO hes clearly happy to say what he thinks.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Has got off on the right foot saying some things that need to be said. I am surprised that he also mentioned the Grundy contract. I'm also surprised that while he was apologetic for the manner of the Treloar exit, he was equally unapologetic for the Stephenson and Phillips exits. SO hes clearly happy to say what he thinks.

Stephenson and Philips exits - as painful as they were - were handled reasonably professionally.

Treloar’s exit was not. Leaking to the media that the reason for a bloke’s forced exit was due to his partner moving to Queensland with their baby daughter - that’s a low low blow and very unprofessional. All the more so given said partner was an ex Collingwood player.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Stephenson and Philips exits - as painful as they were - were handled reasonably professionally.

Treloar’s exit was not. Leaking to the media that the reason for a bloke’s forced exit was due to his partner moving to Queensland with their baby daughter - that’s a low low blow and very unprofessional. All the more so given said partner was an ex Collingwood player.

Yes and I am glad that Korda's apology concentrated on that specific issue if he thinks the Queensland issue was a step too far. I'm glad he didnt just provide a blanket apology for the entire debacle that was the trade season.

(That said, I dont think the Stevo trade was handled especially well, but that was probably mostly on Stevos part that he took a while to get the hint)

 

[DinoSoar]

Stephenson and Philips exits - as painful as they were - were handled reasonably professionally.

Treloar’s exit was not. Leaking to the media that the reason for a bloke’s forced exit was due to his partner moving to Queensland with their baby daughter - that’s a low low blow and very unprofessional. All the more so given said partner was an ex Collingwood player.

My recollection was that it was Treloar’s camp that did all the leaking in order to wedge the club into not trading. Whilst the club did not cover itself in glory in the whole trade season debacle, it cannot be blamed for the media stories - that solely rests on Treloar.

 

[Just Jimmy]

I heard King Korda interviewed last week. He said he'd be focused on the finances and he'd let Graham Wright el tel focus on the list. Good for him, I thought, he knows his place.

 

[76woodenspooners]

My recollection was that it was Treloar’s camp that did all the leaking in order to wedge the club into not trading. Whilst the club did not cover itself in glory in the whole trade season debacle, it cannot be blamed for the media stories - that solely rests on Treloar.

Yeah, you may be right ...

... but IMO anything short of Treloar’s camp making up that story for sympathy (unlikely IMO, you can’t make that stuff up - and the club never denied it) reflects very very badly on the club.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I heard King Korda interviewed last week. He said he'd be focused on the finances and he'd let Graham Wright el tel focus on the list. Good for him, I thought, he knows his place.

Hmmm, surprised nobody has questioned Korda’s Collingwood credentials with him having that attitude!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

My recollection was that it was Treloar’s camp that did all the leaking in order to wedge the club into not trading. Whilst the club did not cover itself in glory in the whole trade season debacle, it cannot be blamed for the media stories - that solely rests on Treloar.

Not sure he was apologising for the leak or just for playing the mental health card in the first place. Without that there’s nothing to leak.

 

[DinoSoar]

Yeah, you may be right ...

... but IMO anything short of Treloar’s camp making up that story for sympathy (unlikely IMO, you can’t make that stuff up - and the club never denied it) reflects very very badly on the club.

I’m sure the suggestion was made to him for consideration in his decision making but how Treloar chose to interpret it and frame it was of his own making. Making it public via the media keen to lap up any Collingwood controversy speaks to his maturity and professionalism, the club quite rightly refused to comment on it. Personally, I think it was a valid concern about the impact the separation from his partner and child would have on Treloar as the months wore on, especially given his open struggles with mental health and anxiety. Now, it was certainly his decision/assessment to make on whether there would be a negative impact however any halfway decent line manager & organisation would have the discussion with an employee. The fact that Treloar took offence to it and chose to make an in-house discussion public in order to further inflame the already heated coverage cannot be glossed over and he is equally at fault in the ensuing controversy. Certainly though, the club did mismanage the whole thing.

 

[Scodog10]

I’m sure the suggestion was made to him for consideration in his decision making but how Treloar chose to interpret it and frame it was of his own making. Making it public via the media keen to lap up any Collingwood controversy speaks to his maturity and professionalism, the club quite rightly refused to comment on it. Personally, I think it was a valid concern about the impact the separation from his partner and child would have on Treloar as the months wore on, especially given his open struggles with mental health and anxiety. Now, it was certainly his decision/assessment to make on whether there would be a negative impact however any halfway decent line manager & organisation would have the discussion with an employee. The fact that Treloar took offence to it and chose to make an in-house discussion public in order to further inflame the already heated coverage cannot be glossed over and he is equally at fault in the ensuing controversy. Certainly though, the club did mismanage the whole thing.

Him or his management? I personally doubt it came from Treloar and firmly believe it was a tactic by his management to make sure he couldn’t go back.

Can anyone share Korda’s recent comments on finals as the benchmark? Or comments to that effect. I was casually listening to a discussion on SEN so I didn’t catch the source and have only skimmed this thread. Make no mistake though that’s a message for the supporter base, but not a “I have no clue about where we’re at” message rather this is the criteria the senior coach needs to meet to continue in the role.

It’s fair enough as well because if we made finals from here I’d be first in line to re-sign Buckley... We aren’t playing finals obviously.

 

[TradeDraft]

To Busy Making Excuses instead of Fixing the Massive Problems at the Club

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Him or his management? I personally doubt it came from Treloar and firmly believe it was a tactic by his management to make sure he couldn’t go back.

Can anyone share Korda’s recent comments on finals as the benchmark? Or comments to that effect. I was casually listening to a discussion on SEN so I didn’t catch the source and have only skimmed this thread. Make no mistake though that’s a message for the supporter base, but not a “I have no clue about where we’re at” message rather this is the criteria the senior coach needs to meet to continue in the role.

It’s fair enough as well because if we made finals from here I’d be first in line to re-sign Buckley... We aren’t playing finals obviously.

Collingwood can still play finals says new president Mark Korda


New Collingwood president Mark Korda says the club is not in crisis and can still play finals, despite its worst start to a season since 2005.
Korda has also revealed he had breakfast with Magpies’ footy boss Graham Wright on Monday morning, when he “emphasised” the club was “relying” on Wright “to run the process” surrounding coach Nathan Buckley’s future.

On making the finals, Korda said: “We hope to make finals. If we had have won (on Sunday) we would’ve been only one game out of the eight, so we still mathematically can make it … We hope so”.

The freshly-minted Magpies president has also attempted to play down the prospect of a Jeff Browne-led coup.

DEEP DIVE: PIES KICKING WOES, WHAT HAPPENS TO BUCKS

On his post-Anzac Day breakfast with Wright, Korda said: “Graham is a very, very experienced football (manager) and we all trust his experience.”

Korda denied the uncertainty over Buckley’s future was affecting the players.

“I’ve talked to Bucks and Graham Wright and we genuinely don’t believe it has an effect on the playing group,” he said.

Asked if he had a preference about Buckley staying on, Korda said: “We should say, let’s go through the process … Do I think Nathan’s a very good coach and a great person? Yes.”
Korda denied it was “crisis time” for Collingwood.

“Clearly we’d rather be better than one (win) and five (losses), but we’ve been around for 129 years and we’ve survived,” he said.

“We need to play better, we were right in the match yesterday, we were one point in front during the last quarter but we just couldn’t finish off.

“Our younger players got very tired at the end.”

Korda also said that he would catch up with potential rival, ex-Channel 9 boss Browne, over the next week or two.

THE TACKLE: WILL BUCKS GET TO REBUILD PIES?

Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley is under pressure after a 1-5 start. Picture: Michael Klein

Some influential Collingwood people including powerful player agent Craig Kelly and former Pies solicitor Francis Galbally were in Browne’s corner for the presidency, but Korda said “we finished our process on Sunday.”.

“I understand Jeff may have put up his on Monday, so the process was finished,” he said.

“If Jeff wants to be involved in the club, we’re more than happy to (talk).

“Jeff will only do what’s in the best interests of Collingwood Football Club.”

Asked if he could work with Browne, Korda said: “Everybody who loves Collingwood will work in Collingwood’s best interests.”

Korda was satisfied that he and the club were doing their part in reaching out to former player Heritier Lumumba, whose claims about racism led to the explosive report that cost Eddie McGuire his job as president.

“We’re working through that at the moment, but I think it’s fair to say that he (Lumumba) was very happy that we reached out,” he said.

“Our report talks to structural racism, that exists in the world, exists in Australia, exists in the AFL, exists in Collingwood.

“It’s fair to say most of us don’t have a very good understanding of these complex issues.

“Are we going to do something about it, absolutely.

“With Lumumba and all of our past players … we will build our processes., so reaching out is only one small step in a long journey that we’re on at the present time.”
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/what...a/news-story/363118a288cdaac346c61aac73df2766

 

[jc37]

Korda comes across as a safe pair of hands and probably what we need after Eddie. Eddie was great for the club but probably got too involved with certain things. I think a big reason we are in a bit of a mess is because of Eddie but that shouldnt discount many of his great achievements for the club.
Does Korda have an inspiring plan for the club?...............no he is a fkng accountant. I think he will be good overseeing things and hopefully help guide the club to get back on track.
Lets see how he goes until we find someone who really can inspire and add great value and at this stage we dont have that person. They are rare.

 

[stormskye]

Collingwood can still play finals says new president Mark Korda


New Collingwood president Mark Korda says the club is not in crisis and can still play finals, despite its worst start to a season since 2005.
Korda has also revealed he had breakfast with Magpies’ footy boss Graham Wright on Monday morning, when he “emphasised” the club was “relying” on Wright “to run the process” surrounding coach Nathan Buckley’s future.

On making the finals, Korda said: “We hope to make finals. If we had have won (on Sunday) we would’ve been only one game out of the eight, so we still mathematically can make it … We hope so”.

The freshly-minted Magpies president has also attempted to play down the prospect of a Jeff Browne-led coup.

DEEP DIVE: PIES KICKING WOES, WHAT HAPPENS TO BUCKS

On his post-Anzac Day breakfast with Wright, Korda said: “Graham is a very, very experienced football (manager) and we all trust his experience.”

Korda denied the uncertainty over Buckley’s future was affecting the players.

“I’ve talked to Bucks and Graham Wright and we genuinely don’t believe it has an effect on the playing group,” he said.

Asked if he had a preference about Buckley staying on, Korda said: “We should say, let’s go through the process … Do I think Nathan’s a very good coach and a great person? Yes.”
Korda denied it was “crisis time” for Collingwood.

“Clearly we’d rather be better than one (win) and five (losses), but we’ve been around for 129 years and we’ve survived,” he said.

“We need to play better, we were right in the match yesterday, we were one point in front during the last quarter but we just couldn’t finish off.

“Our younger players got very tired at the end.”

Korda also said that he would catch up with potential rival, ex-Channel 9 boss Browne, over the next week or two.

THE TACKLE: WILL BUCKS GET TO REBUILD PIES?

Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley is under pressure after a 1-5 start. Picture: Michael Klein

Some influential Collingwood people including powerful player agent Craig Kelly and former Pies solicitor Francis Galbally were in Browne’s corner for the presidency, but Korda said “we finished our process on Sunday.”.

“I understand Jeff may have put up his on Monday, so the process was finished,” he said.

“If Jeff wants to be involved in the club, we’re more than happy to (talk).

“Jeff will only do what’s in the best interests of Collingwood Football Club.”

Asked if he could work with Browne, Korda said: “Everybody who loves Collingwood will work in Collingwood’s best interests.”

Korda was satisfied that he and the club were doing their part in reaching out to former player Heritier Lumumba, whose claims about racism led to the explosive report that cost Eddie McGuire his job as president.

“We’re working through that at the moment, but I think it’s fair to say that he (Lumumba) was very happy that we reached out,” he said.

“Our report talks to structural racism, that exists in the world, exists in Australia, exists in the AFL, exists in Collingwood.

“It’s fair to say most of us don’t have a very good understanding of these complex issues.

“Are we going to do something about it, absolutely.

“With Lumumba and all of our past players … we will build our processes., so reaching out is only one small step in a long journey that we’re on at the present time.”
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/whatsapp://send?text=AFL 2021: Collingwood can still play finals says new president Mark Korda - https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2021-collingwood-can-still-play-finals-says-new-president-mark-korda/news-story/363118a288cdaac346c61aac73df2766