Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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Reyk, I'm ridiculously happy to see you posting! :)

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[Pragmatic Shill]

Korda and his Board need to go as they are Embarrassment for Collingwood

How are Peter Murphy, Paul Licuria, Jodie Sizer or Christine Holgate embarrassments for Collingwood? Jeff Browne hasn't said who's on his ticket - how would we know they're better?

 

[76woodenspooners]

That's my understanding of it as well.

When Hatley said they were accepting signatures from anyone, I couldn't believe such a basic oversight. Amateur hour!

IMO kudos to him for getting signatures from any member - even non-voting member signatures helps to build legitimacy for the member’s concerns.

I just think his petition should have tracked which signatures were and weren’t associated with voting members.

 

[Black_White]

The club is a democracy.
The articles of the club entitle challengers to confirm the validity of those who have signed the petition calling for a spill of the board and a vote.
The board is clearly trying to delay the spill in the vain hope that the on field and off field performances will improve.
The resistance to the democratic process is simply unacceptable.
And please, any person who wants to criticise the name of “Galbally” needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

IMO kudos to him for getting signatures from any member - even non-voting member signatures helps to build legitimacy for the member’s concerns.

I just think his petition should have tracked which signatures were and weren’t associated with voting members.

Agree 100%.

I think his concerns were legitimate and he had good intentions, but I just assumed he would have been stricter in vetting members before signing the document. It surprised me when he said otherwise...

 

[Black_White]

IMO kudos to him for getting signatures from any member - even non-voting member signatures helps to build legitimacy for the member’s concerns.

I just think his petition should have tracked which signatures were and weren’t associated with voting members.

If you start from the perspective that the membership list is available to validate voting members, then you would just get as many names as you could.
Then run the validation process.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Is it true if an EGM is forced then the current board has to go into interim mode and wouldn't be able to sign a senior coach?

 

[Black_White]

Is it true if an EGM is forced then the current board has to go into interim mode and wouldn't be able to sign a senior coach?

Isn’t that the point?
The challengers have no faith in the appointment process.

 

[HeadInTheSand]

Christine Holgate embarrassments for Collingwood?

Because she is an absolute moron.

She is literally so stupid she makes Sally Capp look intelligent.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Isn’t that the point?
The challengers have no faith in the appointment process.

Could be a disaster if the EGM process stops a coach being hired until after the trace period

 

[76woodenspooners]

The articles of the club entitle challengers to confirm the validity of those who have signed the petition calling for a spill of the board and a vote.

No it doesn’t …

https://resources.collingwoodfc.com.au/aflc-coll/document/2021/06/03/608ddf48-61c3-4f50-9520-8e3b88b6f7b2/Collingwood-Football-Club-Limited-Memorandum-and-Articles-of-Association.pdf

The board is clearly trying to delay the spill in the vain hope that the on field and off field performances will improve.
The resistance to the democratic process is simply unacceptable.

Not true. The board have offered a perfectly reasonable remedy.

And please, any person who wants to criticise the name of “Galbally” needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Oh, c’mon, nobody is above reproach.

 

[DinoSoar]

That's my understanding of it as well.

When Hatley said they were accepting signatures from anyone, I couldn't believe such a basic oversight. Amateur hour!

Pretty much. The fact that the petition hasn’t been presented and the demand for the list of members illustrates the organisers know full well it contains illegible signatures. If they had of executed with a bit of due diligence upfront they would have a bit more credibility and not come across as a bunch of cheer squad nuffies. Submit the petition to the club for independent verification as per process, put up or shut up. Better still, nominate alternate candidates at the AGM for election. That statement by Galbally smacks of desperation as their balloon is fast deflating and momentum is dropping - Buckley gone, Pies are playing better, getting some wins on the board and the natives aren’t as restless anymore.

 

[76woodenspooners]

If you start from the perspective that the membership list is available to validate voting members, then you would just get as many names as you could.
Then run the validation process.

Or you could just leave the petition open indefinitely until you eventually collect sufficient signatures?

Fair chance many of the folks who signed it are no longer in support of it. (The bloke who initiated the whole thing is one of them)

 

[Black_White]

Could be a disaster if the EGM process stops a coach being hired until after the trace period

That’s democracy for you.
Or is CFC really a communist organisation?

 

[wcv1475]

I have know idea how the EGM board all work but to me this is typical Collingwood. Biggest chance to land a coach lauded as one of the greatest of the modern era, becomes available and the club is too fractured to land him. The club need to sort it out in weeks not months. Otherwise why would a prospective coach come to us when we have so much instability.

 

[The Young Chevalier]

Pretty disappointed with how this is playing out. Grown men playing with the CFC like its a toy in what appears from the outside to be nothing more than desperation for personal control of the club. Both the board and the potential challengers are coming off as arrogant, selfish and honestly quite pathetic. Unsure if any of the big names have much actual respect for the proud history and tradition of our club.

 

[MyManLynch]

Isn’t that the point?
The challengers have no faith in the appointment process.

I have no faith in the challengers (whoever they are).

 

[76woodenspooners]

I have know idea how the EGM board all work but to me this is typical Collingwood. Biggest chance to land a coach lauded as one of the greatest of the modern era, becomes available and the club is too fractured to land him. The club need to sort it out in weeks not months. Otherwise why would a prospective coach come to us when we have so much instability.

What is the club and the board to do?

They met with the EGM leader. Both parties listened to each other. The club responded to the EGM leader’s concerns (brought AGM forward, set up member engagement programs, explained the background to some of their decisions such as why O’Donnell was recruited to the board).

The leader of the EGM then left and removed his name from it, wanting no further part of it. And so others take it over, Francis Galbally gets involved as the missing link between the EGM and Tom Browne lobbying to be President.

So what is the club and board supposed to do now?

 

[76woodenspooners]

Pretty disappointed with how this is playing out. Grown men playing with the CFC like its a toy in what appears from the outside to be nothing more than desperation for personal control of the club. Both the board and the potential challengers are coming off as arrogant, selfish and honestly quite pathetic. Unsure if any of the big names have much actual respect for the proud history and tradition of our club.

Paul Licuria’s recent media performances are very modest and respectful.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Pretty much. The fact that the petition hasn’t been presented and the demand for the list of members illustrates the organisers know full well it contains illegible signatures. If they had of executed with a bit of due diligence upfront they would have a bit more credibility and not come across as a bunch of cheer squad nuffies. Submit the petition to the club for independent verification as per process, put up or shut up. Better still, nominate alternate candidates at the AGM for election. That statement by Galbally smacks of desperation as their balloon is fast deflating and momentum is dropping - Buckley gone, Pies are playing better, getting some wins on the board and the natives aren’t as restless anymore.

Had they obtained signatures in a proper manner and vetted signatories as to their eligibility beforehand, they may have avoided having to request the registry of members in the first place.

Problem is they rushed it or were clumsy and now they have no idea how many signatories to the petition are legitimate voting members.

I've read that they secured around 2,000 signatures, but we know only approximately 13,000 members are voting members, so for all we know they may have only got a few 100 voting members to sign it, when the minimum number needed is around 650 voting members to be signatories.

 

[slugger01]

Good points.

This board is far from perfect, but I have no interests in burning the joint down because a minority are interested to do so after saying nothing for 20 years when McGuire ruled with an iron fist.

My grievances with the club is the way they handled the salary cap debacle, the appointment of Bridie O'Donnell and its long overdue need to introduce term limits.

On the other hand, I'm pleased that they've moved on Buckley and assembled a panel to find the next coach. Changes have been made in the football department with the inclusion of Graham Wright and a reshuffling of list management personnel. Further, they seem to be making extra efforts to organise and promote member events as last week's email to the members demonstrated.

I don't think things are so bad we need to tear the whole thing down. I'm happy to see board challenges made at the AGM which is a healthy part of the democratic process. Improvements at the club can always be made along the way.

I'm very worried about how this is playing out. It could destabilise us for a long time and hinder our growth in other areas.

i agree 1,000,000% with what you say.

 

[barrackers]

(2) They want control of the entire board, not just the three seats that are up for election at the end of this year.

Why couldn't an EGM replace the AGM at year's end? That would overcome this issue.

My grievances with the club is the way they handled the salary cap debacle, the appointment of Bridie O'Donnell and its long overdue need to introduce term limits.

While I haven't seen anything official Licuria mentioned in the recent social media chat (somewhere in the below youtube video) with fans that terms were now in place, which they weren't before. He also mentioned that the board is now overseeing the cap, again something that wasn't happening before. Both are steps in the right direction and show a willingness to learn and listen.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Because she is an absolute moron.

She is literally so stupid she makes Sally Capp look intelligent.

'sup Libshill.

 

[NMBB]

Club’s response. As a member I’d much rather an independent verification as I’m not comfortable with even just my name being given out.

Hilarious (not) from a Board now headed by Korda who was a key member of McGuire's Board which arrogantly refused to hold elections (= a form of bullying into staying in power) and discouraged anyone from standing for any casual vacancy that did arise.

 

[barrackers]

Hilarious (not) from a Board now headed by Korda who was a key member of McGuire's Board which arrogantly refused to hold elections (= a form of bullying into staying in power) and discouraged anyone from standing for any casual vacancy that did arise.

The board is entitled to appoint anyone to casual vacancies and Browne has identified that should he be elected and the female quota not be reached he'd do similarly and ignore what would be a majority view of members. In terms of full vacancies at AGMs how much of it was McGuire vs his board though? It's impossible to know for sure, but if his comments* on footy classified are any indication I sense it was McGuire's doing not his board.



* I sense he wouldn't have let this EGM rubbish get this far and he was happy that there hadn't been a vote.

 

[NMBB]

The board is entitled to appoint anyone to casual vacancies and Browne has identified that should he be elected and the female quota not be reached he'd do similarly and ignore what would be a majority view of members. In terms of full vacancies at AGMs how much of it was McGuire vs his board though? It's impossible to know for sure, but if his comments* on footy classified are any indication I sense it was McGuire's doing not his board.

* I sense he wouldn't have let this EGM rubbish get this far and he was happy that there hadn't been a vote.

I'm pretty sure McGuire drove Board decisions (and interfered in football management) - have very good info that he talked "non McGuire" people out of nominating for Board positions.
Whatever happens board sh*t must not derail coach selection process or put top candidates off from applying.