Prevent "Trade Week" from being frustrating

[Adrenaline]

The lack of deals in the first 3 days of trade week has been happening for years.

It is time for the AFL to introduce rules that prevent issues rather than bandaid fixes such as mediators.

Remove the PSD

First 2 days of trade week is allocated to dealing uncontracted players. If deals are not completed in this time, the only option these players have is to nomonate in the National Draft and list their contract terms.

During the National Draft what ever pick a club uses for that uncontracted player, then that pick goes to the club that lost the uncontracted player. Then that club uses that pick for any available footballer.

Example: Ryan O'keefe eneters the National Draft due to a deal not being completed for him in the first 2 days of Trade Week. He enters the ND and Brisbane decide to use pick 7 to secure hime. That pick then goes to Sydney.


Advantages:

Smooth Trade Week

The market for that current year determines the value of a player. (Strong draft later pick, weak draft earlier pick)

Each club get far and reasonable value

Disadvantages:

Player wanting to return home may end up in another state (O'keefe to West Coast). This could be manipulated by the player by saying he want to return home or his terms may only be that he wants a one year contract and would move again at the end of that one years.

In Summary, EVERYONE wins

 

[Adrenaline]

Sorry about the spelling errors

 

[Nardz]

personally i don't get why we have trade week.

why can't clubs start dealing say a week after the grand final, right up until one of the list lodgement dates? Why are we limiting it to one week? It wreaks of the afl trying to dramatise the whole thing and focus publicity etc.

 

[kangaroo19]

Sorry about the spelling errors

Meh, trade week is fine as it is apart from those too impatient to wait until the end of the week. It's a trade week so that all clubs can get together and discuss things over the whole week. 5 days is spot on, and no need to change the format!

 

[DaVe86]

personally i don't get why we have trade week.

why can't clubs start dealing say a week after the grand final, right up until one of the list lodgement dates? Why are we limiting it to one week? It wreaks of the afl trying to dramatise the whole thing and focus publicity etc.

then you know what will happen.....all trades will be made on list lodgement date.

 

[Slattery_20]

Just because the paperwork isn't lodged doesn't mean nothing's happening.
Wouldn't mind seeing 4 or 5 days of official trading spread over a fortnight though
The rule changes last year - not having to use picks gathered in trade - have helped with lower-valued guys like C Gardiner & Dempster getting to new homes. I think clubs are just reluctant to trade high picks full stop.

 

[Perth Swans]

The way it is going I think Sydney will keep ROK....

 

[saj_21]

I don't mind the 5 days and think anything mre would be too long. The system of swapping and trading players is bpretty fair and adequate at the moment.

Personally i would like to see trade peroid reduced to 3 days and extend the hours of each day a bit more.

 

[Nardz]

then you know what will happen.....all trades will be made on list lodgement date.

so what if they do, at least clubs have a couple of months to sort things out, and each trade that goes through (there will be some early ones) will change the make up of how other clubs approach it and everyone has time to readjust their strategies..

 

[Adrenaline]

why can't clubs start dealing say a week after the grand final, right up until one of the list lodgement dates? Why are we limiting it to one week? It wreaks of the afl trying to dramatise the whole thing and focus publicity etc

We need a reasonable time frame to get everyone together Nardz

Meh, trade week is fine as it is apart from those too impatient to wait until the end of the week. It's a trade week so that all clubs can get together and discuss things over the whole week. 5 days is spot on, and no need to change the format!

Kangaroo19, I agree that we should retain the 5 days, all I am saying that the first 2 days should be for uncontracted players only. This would stop players and clubs manipulating the entire trade period and the debate of what players are worth. Let the current market value that deal.

 

[kangaroo19]

so what if they do, at least clubs have a couple of months to sort things out, and each trade that goes through (there will be some early ones) will change the make up of how other clubs approach it and everyone has time to readjust their strategies..

People will still be speculating just as much as they are now, and will be whinging for the lodgement day to hurry up. JUST BE PATIENT PEOPLE!

 

[UpForGrabs]

Clubs should be able to trade during the season, up to a point (for example, the mid-season break).

 

[Hawks1523]

Yes it's fun finding out what new players you get, who you got rid of, what players end up were but the point of this week is NOT to entertain fans. It's to improve teams lists to challenge for premierships and deals aren't as simple as player X for player Y. DONE. There is alot of contract negotiations, picks, players, etc that goes on. The deals get done when they get done.. I don't get how people think this week is about entertaining us at all.

 

[Two Eyes]

I actually think the OP's solution is quite neat. It removes the unsavoury practice of low ranked clubs using the PSD as a weapon to ream the higher placed clubs.

 

[-VC-]

I've got an idea too: don't expect deals to be done in the first three days.

 

[E Shed]

Agree it's a good idea (OP).

 

[Warwick]

Just because the paperwork isn't lodged doesn't mean nothing's happening.

Exactly.

Geez some people are thick.

You have to laugh at the ones who started a "official thread for all trades" on their board as though expecting to be bombarded with swaps every 20 minutes. The OP stated the stalemate has happened on the first 3 days for years. Well, don't you think that would give you some indication not to expect a huge number of trades over that time every year?? If you remove the first 3 days, that would mean less trades are completed, not more.

FFS, the week isn't there for the entertainment of the fans. Perhaps people are starting to realise clubs aren't as stupid as those who expect their team to clear all their junk to get something in return during the week.

The people complaining about trade week are probably the same ones who whinge about the NAB Cup and suggest the season is extended instead. It's not for the fans' amusement!!

And i'm not having a go at the OP because I think that suggestion certainly has merit. I'm more talking about every clown that wants the week to be cut to a 10 minute mad scramble with fireworks and cheerleaders in the background.

 

[Monocle]

I actually think the OP's solution is quite neat. It removes the unsavoury practice of low ranked clubs using the PSD as a weapon to ream the higher placed clubs.

Agree with you there , the OP is very well thought out and avoids market manipulation. True value is achieved and clubs get fair compensation based on what the true demand for a certain player is.

By the way quite ironic that Two Eyes and Monocle agree

 

[Adrenaline]

Yes it's fun finding out what new players you get, who you got rid of, what players end up were but the point of this week is NOT to entertain fans. It's to improve teams lists to challenge for premierships and deals aren't as simple as player X for player Y. DONE. There is alot of contract negotiations, picks, players, etc that goes on. The deals get done when they get done.. I don't get how people think this week is about entertaining us at all.

It has nothing to do with the fans from my end. Every year you here clubs complaining that they could not complete the deals they wanted to with other clubs because they were waiting for the so called Ottens Deal or Judd deal to be completed. Its the clubs that were invovled in these deals that hampered other players being traded and ultimately affects the majority of footballers wanting to rekindle their careers elsewhere

 

[Mr.X]

It's been a tough few days for everyone so far this week, with no trades going through.

The Warnock/Carlton one has stalled badly, and O'keefe appears to over priced himself.
The O'Hailpin trade will be announced very soon, and they'll be a rush of activity on Friday afternoon

 

[krusden]

I heard a good suggestion on radio: Make the monday and friday the only days "deals" can go through. Have the other three days for chatting.
I thought it had a bit of merit.

 

[dont bowl there]

The AFL should let the clubs be able to trade future draft picks, for example Carlton only have the one 2nd round pick this year but Freo want two they simply trade pick 24 and next years 2nd round pick (where ever that may be). Its used well in the NBA and means teams don't have to trade heaps of picks in the same year. I am sure that would get more trades over the line.

 

[Macca19]

Its only frustrating for those that sit intently on here and AFL.com waiting for the trade tracker to tick over.

 

[Macca19]

Having said that though...I do get the slight impression that being involved in trade week would be a bit like your grade 6 primary school dance. Boys on one side, girls on the other for the first couple of hours. Accidentally catching the eye of the girl you like and both coyly looking away blushed. Then someone finally gets the guts to ask a girl to dance which breaks the ice...others follow but it ends up being too late and youve missed the opportunity to snag a kiss from the girl you're dancing with as the music is off and you have to leave...when if you asked her half hour earlier...things might have progressed further.

just my thoughts anyway.

 

[Warwick]

Having said that though...I do get the slight impression that being involved in trade week would be a bit like your grade 6 primary school dance. Boys on one side, girls on the other for the first couple of hours. Accidentally catching the eye of the girl you like and both coyly looking away blushed. Then someone finally gets the guts to ask a girl to dance which breaks the ice...others follow but it ends up being too late and youve missed the opportunity to snag a kiss from the girl you're dancing with as the music is off and you have to leave...when if you asked her half hour earlier...things might have progressed further.

just my thoughts anyway.

Great analogy.

But in saying that, if you shortened the dance to an hour, I don't think that would necessarily get them dancing earlier. There is still the groundwork to be laid.