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Tbh mate I know quite a few AFC supporters who do say that on a regular basis. It may not be the view across the board but there is definitely an element of that sentiment present.
Michelangelo Rucci suggested tonight Eade is the front runner for the Port job. I know he cops plenty of flak in SA, but that suggestion makes sense to me.
The rivalry is more fun when you aren't a shambles.
You're at a level now where I cant bring myself to hate Port, I feel sorry for most of their supporters.
I want you to be successful enough for the banter to be fun - but not better than that.
And yea, I don't know what the answers are; needs to be a long term view, but the most obvious thing is that success attracts people - you're pushing shit uphill until you're at least heading in the right direction.
Then they're fornicated
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Can you ever really judge a man on less than two full seasons at the helm (caretaker doesn't count)? Port have to go back to square one. 3 seasons now fully wasted because they gave contracts to guys they refused to back. Williams was re-signed and dumped within months. What a ludicrously silly and short-sighted decision to cut the year short because they were upset about the GWS loss. How can they really say they hadn't improved when they'd beaten 3 finals contenders in Carlton, North & St Kilda this year? I just don't understand how sacking him now is a calm and collected decision. Melbourne certainly haven't improved since they dumped Bailey.
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Wow I really feel for Primus. He didn't deserve that. I honestly think Port were heading in the right direction. Gutted for him.
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Tickets please!!
I very much doubt someone from "the highest level" at geelong rang you and said, "eh, up the guts, I've got some info for you"
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Wasn't hoping at all, that would have implied that I thought you actually had an inside source!!
Whatever happens happens, meh.
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"Re-branding" is a fundamentally terrible idea.
Port have one advantage as a brand as it stands - their history. Everything else is in favour of the crows. A new brand has absolutely no advantage over the Crows at all. Adelaide "Home Brand". Adelaide "Opposition". Adelaide "other guys". The Adelaide "generals" (Basketball ref there)
This isn't WA, unsure of the split over there (if it is similar 70/30 with bigger numbers therefore more raw supporters and better finances) but there is not the same population, not a separate geographical area and not a stadium that is too small and the "big brother" club sells out every week meaning if you want to actually watch AFL at a ground, you watch the "little brother".
I'd like to see Port start playing regularly on Monday nights when they move to Adelaide oval. Would give them more exposure (being only game in that time-slot) both in SA and nationally. The SANFL would almost certainly go for it because (assuming the crows are interstate) as it gives them an entire weekend of football to themselves. Obviously a delicate balancing act with timing (too early and people that work 9-5 won't show, too late and families won't show) although that in itself even represents an opportunity (if your school gets 60 kids to come watch us play at Adelaide Oval, we'll do some promotional stuff for your school, or from the kids perspective negotiate that anyone that watched them play can get Tuesday off school)
Port have one advantage as a brand as it stands - their history. Everything else is in favour of the crows. A new brand has absolutely no advantage over the Crows at all. Adelaide "Home Brand". Adelaide "Opposition". Adelaide "other guys". The Adelaide "generals" (Basketball ref there)
This isn't WA, unsure of the split over there (if it is similar 70/30 with bigger numbers therefore more raw supporters and better finances) but there is not the same population, not a separate geographical area and not a stadium that is too small and the "big brother" club sells out every week meaning if you want to actually watch AFL at a ground, you watch the "little brother".
I'd like to see Port start playing regularly on Monday nights when they move to Adelaide oval. Would give them more exposure (being only game in that time-slot) both in SA and nationally. The SANFL would almost certainly go for it because (assuming the crows are interstate) as it gives them an entire weekend of football to themselves. Obviously a delicate balancing act with timing (too early and people that work 9-5 won't show, too late and families won't show) although that in itself even represents an opportunity (if your school gets 60 kids to come watch us play at Adelaide Oval, we'll do some promotional stuff for your school, or from the kids perspective negotiate that anyone that watched them play can get Tuesday off school)
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Totally agree, the problem here is the crow-centric media are intimidated by Port's history and since our entry into the AFL have attacked the history rather than using it as a positive.
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Have you watched us recently? We narrowly beat the Suns, lost to GWS and were absolutely pantsed by Freo at home. One goal in a half of football at a home game. To a side whose gameplan consisted of sitting behind the ball and waiting for us to turn it over, which we did by continuously kicking long to Brett Ebert in a 3 on 1 situation. Come to think of it, that was pretty much what we did to GWS the other day. This is not an overreaction to one loss, its been building for much of the last 2 months. Sure we improved by not getting beaten by 200 points in two weeks, we still play maybe 2 quarters of football a game.
Our skills are deplorable, for some reason we are completely unable to hit targets by hand or foot, even in relatively uncontested situations.
Fitness - we were blowing up after 3 quarters against GWS. Our players are built like twigs, compare this with the draftees at say Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood etc.
Our selection is puzzling to say the least. Why would you consistently play one ruck (Lobbe), when he is consistently getting beaten when you have Redden sitting in the SANFL? The occasions we have played two rucks it has worked in patches, why not actually try it consistently. Trengove, Carlile and/or Chaplin injured, you think we might play Blee, given we drafted him as a back up defender.... nah don't make me laugh.
Our player development is laughable. Name some players who have improved in the last 3 years? Broadbent and Schulz, and the last 6 weeks Moore in patches, got any more names for that list? All I see is a bunch of blokes going backwards - Chaplin, Carlile, Trengove, Butcher, Pearce, Cassisi, Thomas.
Gameday coaching. Pearce and Hartlett consistently in the backline, Ebert as a one out forward target, sounds pretty much like Mark Williams. Salter in defence... thanks JYD...
Contracts - the Williams debacle, Kane Cornes, Matt Westhoff, Nick Salter, Cassisi, the list is endless.
I love my club and it hurts me to see 22 blokes go on the field and maybe 5 look like they care. The buck stops here. Matty may be a nice guy and bleed for the club, and I have supported him, but lets face it, he should probably not have been appointed in the first place. What is happening now is what should have happened when Choco left. Matty is not the only one to blame, the players who represent our club need to take a good hard look in the mirror at the tripe they have served up of late and anyone who doesnt want to commit to doing everything in their power to making Port Adelaide a premiership threat again can bugger off
I have no problem with your SANFL history, never have and never will. But it is SANFL history, not VFL/AFL. No Port supporters are going to see a non Port person's opinion on this and agree, but it is how many see it. In 50-100 years time, do you think many of those supporting 'Port' would have the faintest clue about Port's history in the SANFL, if any clue at all?
Do you think Port as a club would care about it then, if they have 10 AFL flags or whatever?
Interesting analysis Geoffa
Can you please explain how the crows I.e. the team for all south Australians has been unable to increase their share of support above 70% since 1997? Why has the crows support perhaps the crows been so relatively static for the past 15 years?
maybe the Adelaide crows have some branding issues
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Fair enough, but you were absolutely deplorable and without glimpses of improvement last year. This year there have been at least some signs that the players are getting better.Have you watched us recently? We narrowly beat the Suns, lost to GWS and were absolutely pantsed by Freo at home. One goal in a half of football at a home game. To a side whose gameplan consisted of sitting behind the ball and waiting for us to turn it over, which we did by continuously kicking long to Brett Ebert in a 3 on 1 situation. Come to think of it, that was pretty much what we did to GWS the other day. This is not an overreaction to one loss, its been building for much of the last 2 months. Sure we improved by not getting beaten by 200 points in two weeks, we still play maybe 2 quarters of football a game.
Our skills are deplorable, for some reason we are completely unable to hit targets by hand or foot, even in relatively uncontested situations.
Fitness - we were blowing up after 3 quarters against GWS. Our players are built like twigs, compare this with the draftees at say Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood etc.
Our selection is puzzling to say the least. Why would you consistently play one ruck (Lobbe), when he is consistently getting beaten when you have Redden sitting in the SANFL? The occasions we have played two rucks it has worked in patches, why not actually try it consistently. Trengove, Carlile and/or Chaplin injured, you think we might play Blee, given we drafted him as a back up defender.... nah don't make me laugh.
Our player development is laughable. Name some players who have improved in the last 3 years? Broadbent and Schulz, and the last 6 weeks Moore in patches, got any more names for that list? All I see is a bunch of blokes going backwards - Chaplin, Carlile, Trengove, Butcher, Pearce, Cassisi, Thomas.
Gameday coaching. Pearce and Hartlett consistently in the backline, Ebert as a one out forward target, sounds pretty much like Mark Williams. Salter in defence... thanks JYD...
Contracts - the Williams debacle, Kane Cornes, Matt Westhoff, Nick Salter, Cassisi, the list is endless.
I love my club and it hurts me to see 22 blokes go on the field and maybe 5 look like they care. The buck stops here. Matty may be a nice guy and bleed for the club, and I have supported him, but lets face it, he should probably not have been appointed in the first place. What is happening now is what should have happened when Choco left. Matty is not the only one to blame, the players who represent our club need to take a good hard look in the mirror at the tripe they have served up of late and anyone who doesnt want to commit to doing everything in their power to making Port Adelaide a premiership threat again can bugger off
There's clearly more to be done but it takes more than 2 years to rebuild a team and you haven't even given Primus that. Now they have to start again. If Primus is really that bad it's an indictment on those who hired him that they're so unimpressed they won't even wait until the end of the year to assess his second season.
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Scrap the teal colour. It's really depressing to look at. Honestly believe this would solve all problems.
I agree with you - that Crows supporters and the Crow-centric media have translated their hate for Port from the SANFL to the AFL, and will always hate us for our AFL presence now.
And we'll always "hate" the non-Port 50 years from now, whether that is just Adelaide or more than them...
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