Proposal to include premierships dating back to 1870 gathering pace

[Aristotle Pickett]

Yes. From 1888 until 1902, the premiership was determined based on win–loss record, with a playoff match played only in the event of teams finishing with equal records. Not much different to some of the early VFL premierships.

And you want these journalist best team thingos ftom 150 years counted as VFL premierships?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Why are so many people upset their team has won fewer flags than Geelong?

It's not that, it's Geelong supporters wanting charity and special treatment and rule changes that suit them.
This is all click bait so the AFL can stay in the news in the off season. That's why the book is released now.
It's a joke and has no basis at all, everyone knows that.

 

[FourthTimeAround]

Why are so many people upset their team has won fewer flags than Geelong?

We aren't upset really.
Port Adelaide have won more.

Oh you mean won more flags in only the 3 different competitions you've played in?
Good for you, as that stuff matters to your club.

But not to everyone.

 

[FourthTimeAround]

Which non Victorian teams existed before joining the VFL/AFL?

 

[Sttew]

And you want these journalist best team thingos ftom 150 years counted as VFL premierships?

Don't know about the 'journalists" best team, but what I want to see officially acknowledged with, say, Geelong is:

VFA Premierships - 7
VFL Premierships - 6
AFL Premierships - 4

Anyone can work out the distinction between the various categories of premierships.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Don't know about the 'journalists" best team, but what I want to see officially acknowledged with, say, Geelong is:

VFA Premierships - 7
VFL Premierships - 6
AFL Premierships - 4

Anyone can work out the distinction between the various categories of premierships.

Geelong are the most successful afl team for mine.

 

[Sttew]

If the same team, then Port Adelaide will be recognised with:

SANFL Premierships - 136, or how many it is
AFL Premierships - 1

I note the PA Magpies and Port Power did not officially merge until 2010, though???

UPDATE: Power & Magpies Unite

The Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) and the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (SANFL) have united

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

 

[Sttew]

It's not that, it's Geelong supporters wanting charity and special treatment and rule changes that suit them.
This is all click bait so the AFL can stay in the news in the off season. That's why the book is released now.
It's a joke and has no basis at all, everyone knows that.

You're just peeved you didn't come up with the OP. Am I right?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Don't know about the 'journalists" best team, but what I want to see officially acknowledged with, say, Geelong is:

VFA Premierships - 7
VFL Premierships - 6
AFL Premierships - 4

Anyone can work out the distinction between the various categories of premierships.

They're not premierships though. You can't make them premierships 150 years later.
Some of the teams in that supposed VFA were one horse towns.
The official VFL premierships were agreed 100 years ago, you can't go back in time and change things just to suit some whim.

 

[beema limapep]

I just find the whole thing embarrassing.

Has there been another club in Australian sport who's individuals have spent more time and effort lobbying for special treatment than Geelong?

If it's not the rule changes or the length of games being shortened, it's retrospective premierships, stadium funding, etc etc etc.

You'd think they were Stkilda with 1 flag. But at least Stkilda have dignity.

It's pretty pathetic.

 

[STPer18]

I hope we unveil our seven new flags alongside our 2022 one at Kardinia Park's grand re-opening later this year.

 

[simba_]

If the same team, then Port Adelaide will be recognised with:

SANFL Premierships - 136, or how many it is
AFL Premierships - 1

I note the PA Magpies and Port Power did not officially merge until 2010, though???

UPDATE: Power & Magpies Unite

The Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) and the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (SANFL) have united

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

Port Adelaide was split in 2 in 1996 and reunified in 2010

don't forget the record [4] Champions of Australia

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Look - it is a totally ridiculous and highly embarrasing suggestion - and only a lawyer or an Architect could come up with this nonsense

However i must say - they are an absolute glorious - beautiful set of numbers - in particular - Geel - the mighty Cats - and reigning premiers and all the rest of it 17 flags and Richmond 13

And that leads to the obvious question - what were the Tigers doing back then ? - they have stalled on 13 - most likely in true Richmond fashion - they were sacking multiple coaches - ha - ha - ha

 

[Sttew]

They're not premierships though. You can't make them premierships 150 years later.
Some of the teams in that supposed VFA were one horse towns.
The official VFL premierships were agreed 100 years ago, you can't go back in time and change things just to suit some whim.

The thing is that the VFA is an important part of the history of Australian Rules in Victoria. Those 'premierships' are now officially recognised, according to Wikipedia, but obviously their value is questionable. There was one genuine GF in 1886:

"Geelong v South Melbourne played on 4 September 1886 is, arguably, the most important Aussie Rules game to be played in the 19th century. Although regular final games had not yet been instituted, the VFA arranged this game so as to determine the Premiers for 1886; both teams had gone through the season undefeated."

History of Australian rules football in Victoria (1859–1900) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

It's not that, it's Geelong supporters wanting charity and special treatment and rule changes that suit them.
This is all click bait so the AFL can stay in the news in the off season. That's why the book is released now.
It's a joke and has no basis at all, everyone knows that.

Yeh, it is that. You seem pretty upset.

 

[Mundusa]

If the same team, then Port Adelaide will be recognised with:

SANFL Premierships - 136, or how many it is
AFL Premierships - 1

I note the PA Magpies and Port Power did not officially merge until 2010, though???

UPDATE: Power & Magpies Unite

The Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) and the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (SANFL) have united

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

Port Adelaide club won the license from the AFL and had to create the SANFL Magpies as a seperate entity until 2010 when that nonesense was overrulled. So The Port Adelaide club ran a seperate 2nds team for 4 years

 

[bh90210fan]

Don’t be silly, it only counts pre AFL.

Wasn’t that Peel team basically your AFL side? Chuck it in too I reckon, more darts the better.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

The thing is that the VFA is an important part of the history of Australian Rules in Victoria. Those 'premierships' are now officially recognised, according to Wikipedia, but obviously their value is questionable. There was one genuine GF in 1886:

"Geelong v South Melbourne played on 4 September 1886 is, arguably, the most important Aussie Rules game to be played in the 19th century. Although regular final games had not yet been instituted, the VFA arranged this game so as to determine the Premiers for 1886; both teams had gone through the season undefeated."

History of Australian rules football in Victoria (1859–1900) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sure acknowledge history but don't reinvent history to claim non-existent premierships .
Colin Carter is a Geelong supporter and there's nothing new in his research.
Like I said the people 100 years ago decided the appropriate parameters. They were much closer in time to the 1870's than Colin is.
It's a bit embarrassing from Colin to be honest , so is the money he's is making from the book.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Yeh, it is that. You seem pretty upset.

No, I'm more embarrassed for Geelong supporters to be honest. Have some dignity.

 

[Purple Suit]

Wasn’t that Peel team basically your AFL side? Chuck it in too I reckon, more darts the better.

Ok deal, lets include the WAFL sides too once they were aligned in the official records. WC can include their WAFL spoons as well.

 

[bh90210fan]

Ok deal, lets include the WAFL sides too once they were aligned in the official records. WC can include their WAFL spoons as well.

Just trying to help get you on the board after nearly 30 years brother.

 

[STPer18]

Incredible piece of literature.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

No, I'm more embarrassed for Geelong supporters to be honest. Have some dignity.

Na you're upset.

 

[Grin]

Why are so many people upset their team has won fewer flags than Geelong?

I think people are more concerned about the shockingly low self esteem and deep feelings of insecurity that leads a group of people to come to a proposal like this.
Most of us just want to help.
I for one think it's a wonderful idea if it makes you feel even a little bit better about your collective selves. But I wonder what bought you to feeling so inferior to the rest of us.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Na you're upset.

There's nothing to be upset about , it's more embarrassment that all cats supporters are behind this rewrite of history with no case.