Scandal Racist fan throws banana at Eddie Betts

[OneGreatClub]

i could be wrong, but from my view of dangerfields comments (i may not have heard them all) he was not saying that eddie is racially vilified weekly playing football, he was talking about the indigenous experience of racism broadly, which involves both explicit racial prejudice and implicit institutionalised racism. either way, it is terrible.

there seems to be a thinking that if we could 'educate' people to stop explicitly vilifying others with racially charged language in public, racism would be solved. but the problems run far deeper than that, and in any event the issue of racism is far, far more nuanced than society being made up of a few 'racists' and many 'non-racists'.

'racists' are not necessarily rabid 'black haters', and it is even very possible to hold ingrained racial prejudice against a community at large while maintaining friendships with members of that community.

vicious problem, and these explicit public outbursts are just a tiny part of the issue of 'racism'.

Good post, yes the undercurrent is always there, the banana incident just brought it back into the conversation. Even some of those espousing outrage I agree may and likely do have those ingrained beliefs. Cultural awareness programs are a start.

 

[Clems Knee]

It's actually quite easy for a club to lay the foundations for the type of behaviour that was at the Showdown on the weekend. When a game is important, a coach often calls for "a cauldron" or "<insert colour(s) here> army" to be the 19th man, or makes the comment that he expects the crowd to get into a player because of past actions.
Then a few in the crowd take it a bit further and some idiot takes it too far. In this case it was a (clear and obvious) racist act, but sometimes it's a fight in the stands or an abusive comment wishing injury on a player.

When we get too tribal, and forget to marvel at the greatness of some of the opposition players, we don't enjoy the footy as much and the game becomes a series of booing players and complaining about the umpires, with only a few episodes of actual enjoyment. That sets the seeds for the awful mistake that the Port fan made.

I endured that last year, especially after Fyfe was injured and the team brought back to the pack. I endure it almost every time I go to an Eagles game. A few weeks ago I saw Adelaide thrash the Dockers, but marvelled at the skills of Eddie Betts at one end and SonSon Walters at the other end as they both kicked bags of goals. Came away disappointed, but still enjoyed watching the great game.

 

[Ron The Bear]

How did Goodes handle it? His response was
"It's not a witch-hunt, I don't want people to go after this young girl. We've just got to help educate society better so it doesn't happen again. It's not her fault, she's 13, she's still so innocent, I don't put any blame on her. He also then announced when he had talked to her and she'd apologised and called for her to be supported. Whatadick.

Don't want to derail this thread because Goodes discussions only end one way. However Goodes, after learning of the girl's age, declared "Racism has a face, and it's a 13yo girl." He then held a full-scale presser the next day and continued his diatribe as AOTY.

Said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think Goodesy is a bad person. However public reaction towards him remains divided, because his approach was confrontational and accusatory. I'm glad he has resisted the urge to weigh in on this incident and perhaps turn a generally positive outcome into something nasty.

 

[Clems Knee]

Don't want to derail this thread because Goodes discussions only end one way. However Goodes, after learning of the girl's age, declared "Racism has a face, and it's a 13yo girl." He then held a full-scale presser the next day and continued his diatribe as AOTY.

Said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think Goodesy is a bad person. However public reaction towards him remains divided, because his approach was confrontational and accusatory. I'm glad he has resisted the urge to weigh in on this incident and perhaps turn a generally positive outcome into something nasty.

This is bullhsit. Look back at what was actually said by Goodes at the time. Even the sentence you quoted is incomplete. It ended with "but it's not her fault". The presser was not a diatribe. It was a call for support of the girl, and of how he felt when he realised that the person he was pointing to was so young.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-year-old-girl-called-ape-escorted-stand.html

You've shown in this thread that you are willing to twist anything to suit your world view. You say you don't want to derail the thread but have done so again.

 

[Thrawn]

She's looks like an orangutan maybe she just wanted to share

I liked this, unliked this, and liked it again just so I could like it twice.

 

[Ron The Bear]

This is bullhsit. Look back at what was actually said by Goodes at the time. Even the sentence you quoted is incomplete. It ended with "but it's not her fault". The presser was not a diatribe. It was a call for support of the girl, and of how he felt when he realised that the person he was pointing to was so young.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-year-old-girl-called-ape-escorted-stand.html

You've shown in this thread that you are willing to twist anything to suit your world view. You say you don't want to derail the thread but have done so again.

Mate, his approach was confrontational in a number of instances, and confrontational minorities never win. That's just how it is. It's why MLK is a great figure in history and Malcolm X is a shadow.

 

[Clems Knee]

Mate, his approach was confrontational in a number of instances, and confrontational minorities never win. That's just how it is. It's why MLK is a great figure in history and Malcolm X is a shadow.

1. You are not my mate
2. You misrepresented Adam Goodes. As did some media reports.
3. The mob mentality resulted in one of the greats leaving our game under very sad circumstances. It was as much about tribalism trying to take Sydney down as it was reactions to his behaviour in the way you have misrepresented, but there was a significant level of racism amongst the mob.

 

[Swooping Crow]

dont try and make this a 'port ferals' versus 'crows white knights' thing... there are good and bad people supporting all 18 clubs, and good and bad people who couldnt care less about football.

Does this happen on a regular basis?

 

[Nikita Blue]

Article in the newspaper today about Eddie Betts saying the girl should be allowed back to the football immediately, no need to completely bury someone who is obviously at best 'simple' and at worst mentally ******ed in some capacity. Huge respect for Betts he's gone to my favourite opposition player now. The way he has handled this situation has been statesmen like, unlike that douchebag Adam Goodes who deserved every boo he ever got

Both Eddie and Adam have showed grace and class. You on the other hand did not.

 

[barmy44]

Does this happen on a regular basis?

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every week, at every game.

 

[Swooping Crow]

So, rather than trying to move forward, and, as your star Eddie has said, the two clubs work together to improve attitudes from all walks of life (all clubs too) towards Indigenous people, you just want to turn this into the Bae? When Dangerfield has said Eddie (and other indigenous players) has been copping it verbally every week from all clubs and in the street for years. Your response is disappointing and telling, very very telling.

So sorry my opinion differs from yours on this issue.

 

[Swooping Crow]

every week, at every game.

Young children flipping the bird at players is a regular occurrence? LOL.

 

[DemonTim]

Mate, his approach was confrontational in a number of instances, and confrontational minorities never win. That's just how it is. It's why MLK is a great figure in history and Malcolm X is a shadow.

MLK was confrontational, he just lacked violence or aggression in any confrontation he did. Stop rewriting history. MLK was considered confrontational

 

[Ron The Bear]

1. You are not my mate
2. You misrepresented Adam Goodes. As did some media reports.
3. The mob mentality resulted in one of the greats leaving our game under very sad circumstances. It was as much about tribalism trying to take Sydney down as it was reactions to his behaviour in the way you have misrepresented, but there was a significant level of racism amongst the mob.

And here they come, the infamous angry Left. Ask yourself why Betts was well received and Goodes wasn't. There's an element of Betts being a cheeky little scamp whereas Goodes cuts an imposing figure, but that's peripheral.

Well done Eddie Betts and PAFC. Out.

 

[barmy44]

Young children flipping the bird at players is a regular occurrence? LOL.

yes, id say its fairly common.

anyway, not at all interested in continuing this. all the best!

 

[DemonTim]

And here they come, the infamous angry Left. Ask yourself why Betts was well received and Goodes wasn't. There's an element of Betts being a cheeky little scamp whereas Goodes cuts an imposing figure, but that's peripheral.

Well done Eddie Betts and PAFC. Out.

He pointed out that you misquoted Goodes to suit your view point.

Why don't you tell people why Goodes wasn't well received? He's an imposing figure? So Goodes should've been a cheeky little scamp to stop racism?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

And here they come, the infamous angry Left. Ask yourself why Betts was well received and Goodes wasn't. There's an element of Betts being a cheeky little scamp whereas Goodes cuts an imposing figure, but that's peripheral.

Well done Eddie Betts and PAFC. Out.

No. That's central.

It seems we still like our blackfellas to be of a certain type. Little goalsneaks with permanent cheeky grins. God help us if one doesn't fit our blackfella stereotype.

The only difference I can see between the situations is that Betts wasn't immediately aware of the particular act of racism. I applaud Eddie Betts and his handling of the situation. I also applaud Adam Goodes. And PAFC and SSFC.

I don't applaud those who still think they can hide in a crowd and racially abuse Aboriginal footballers.

 

[Malifice]

No. That's central.

It seems we still like our blackfellas to be of a certain type. Little goalsneaks with permanent cheeky grins. God help us if one doesn't fit our blackfella stereotype.

The only difference I can see between the situations is that Betts wasn't immediately aware of the particular act of racism. I applaud Eddie Betts and his handling of the situation. I also applaud Adam Goodes. And PAFC and SSFC.

I don't applaud those who still think they can hide in a crowd and racially abuse Aboriginal footballers.

If you read carefully, Ron acknowledges Goodes was booed because he was 'an outspoken minority'. He directly corellated Malcolm X v JLK.

Apparently being an outspoken minority in the face of overwhelming racism is 'a bad thing'.

In other words, If I were to hang shit on Ron, and he were to speak out about it, he's the one that deserves public ridicule, and not me.

Pretty warped logic.

 

[Clems Knee]

And here they come, the infamous angry Left. Ask yourself why Betts was well received and Goodes wasn't. There's an element of Betts being a cheeky little scamp whereas Goodes cuts an imposing figure, but that's peripheral.

Well done Eddie Betts and PAFC. Out.

Stop labelling me. I'm not that angry, and I'm not that Left. Perhaps to a goose stepping white supremacist I am, but I'm okay with that.
In this case imagery was everything. We got to see Goodes' reaction the moment it happened and later in the game. and there was a presser the next day because of his reaction. Betts was unaware at the time, and it was at the end of the game.

 

[Ron The Bear]

In other words, If I were to hang shit on Ron, and he were to speak out about it, he's the one that deserves public ridicule, and not me.

I've been called everything under the sun on this forum and can't be bothered taking offence or fighting it. Give me a label, I'll throw it in the room with the others.

Still waiting for you to take up the invitation to show where I defended the woman's actions.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Racist Banana throws fan at Eddie Betts.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Racist Banana throws fan at Eddie Betts.

Tiptoes mate. They'll be claiming Jimi made white music for white folk. Again.

"Your own people hurt you more."

- Jimi Hendrix

 

[dave123]

Does this happen on a regular basis?

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Oddly that footage disturbs me more than banana throwing girl

Why?

For one he's a kid and what kind of hate have parents bread into this kid that makes him do that

 

[MilhouseVsEvil]

Oddly that footage disturbs me more than banana throwing girl

Why?

For one he's a kid and what kind of hate have parents bread into this kid that makes him do that

A loaf of white only knows hate, I only eat multigrain.

 

[dave123]

A loaf of white only knows hate, I only eat multigrain.

Closet racists are everywhere