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I really want to bring this thread back...
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/1983-alternate-history.1152172/
...but I've since revamped the story and I don't want my older designs getting confused with the newer ones.
Would people be OK with me opening a new thread to continue it?
Gibbsy crow28 seeing as you guys are mods I'll tag you guys but I'm also curious as to what others think. Obviously, I'll wait until I've completed a serious chunk of it until I begin a new thread.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/1983-alternate-history.1152172/
...but I've since revamped the story and I don't want my older designs getting confused with the newer ones.
Would people be OK with me opening a new thread to continue it?
Gibbsy crow28 seeing as you guys are mods I'll tag you guys but I'm also curious as to what others think. Obviously, I'll wait until I've completed a serious chunk of it until I begin a new thread.
Red Crow
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I have no particular problem with you starting a new thread to "reboot" the idea. Can lock the thread and put a note with a link to the new thread in the OP of the old thread. But yeah, I would recommend getting a good amount of work behind you before starting (which is more a general comment for all portfolios).
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I'm 3/36 designs done, when I get to 12 I'll start a thread since it's split into 3 divisions.
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I say go for it!! Ive just had a look through the other thread and loved it. I started something similar a couple of months ago but it sorta fell by the wayside when the BF Olympics got the go ahead! Mine was based 1980 and 4 SANFL clubs had decided to break away from the SANFL, start their own comp and invite other clubs from around Australia to join them.
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My alternate history league is still a work in progress, I'm halfway through. Started at 1987 and I've done all the way up to 2004 with uniform and logo updates for every season. No point releasing it until I'm done though, which will still be a while, but I'll get there.
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Alright dudes, need some advice...
I've (pretty much) never watched any Star Wars films. I probably watched the original trilogy way back when and I saw Episode I at the movies, but its just never really appealed to me. In fact, as a kid I pretty much just straight out hated it. My brother was big time obsessed, so it was always in my face and so naturally I went the other way.
ANYWAY, I've decided that now that I'm into my 30s its probably about time I grew up a bit and gave them a chance. The big question is... what order do I watch them in? Chronological order to be able to watch the whole story unfold? Or release order to see it the way everybody else did?
Thoughts?
I've (pretty much) never watched any Star Wars films. I probably watched the original trilogy way back when and I saw Episode I at the movies, but its just never really appealed to me. In fact, as a kid I pretty much just straight out hated it. My brother was big time obsessed, so it was always in my face and so naturally I went the other way.
ANYWAY, I've decided that now that I'm into my 30s its probably about time I grew up a bit and gave them a chance. The big question is... what order do I watch them in? Chronological order to be able to watch the whole story unfold? Or release order to see it the way everybody else did?
Thoughts?
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All I can say is I hope you space it out well. The whole saga goes for 20 hours and 10 minutes.
https://www.bingeclock.com/film/marathon/star-wars-1/
Release order is your best bet.
Alternatively, if you're not even aware of the big twist in 5, another order I've seen is IV-V-I-II-III-VI-VII-RO-VIII
Based on this post from reddit (credit u/PopsicleIncorporated):
Based on this post from reddit (credit u/PopsicleIncorporated):
A while ago, I learned that a friend of mine had never seen Star Wars. I gave him my DVD of A New Hope and had him watch it, I wanted to know what he thought.
After he finished it, I decided I wanted to watch Empire Strikes Back with him. For one reason, it's easily the best Star Wars film and I'll always watch it given the opportunity, and two, I wanted to see his response to the twist.
We get to the twist and he seems unsurprised. He confesses he's heard the line before but didn't know the context. So while it was a bit of a shock to him, he says he knew it had to be coming at some point.
I'm a bit disappointed, but glad he likes the films. I decided to make him my Machete Order test subject (yes...I know, probably should've given them to him in release order), but in the end it was worth it.
(Side note: I incorporate Episode I into Machete Order, right between V and II.)
So he finishes Phantom Menace, then Attack of the Clones. He watched these on his own, then as he's handing Attack of the Clones back to me, he says: "I would have thought they'd introduced Vader by now."
I almost blew it. But I wisely bit back my initial response and asked him what he meant.
Turns out my friend never put together that Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. He knew from Empire Strikes Back that Darth Vader is Luke's father, but he had merged this revelation with Obi-Wan's lie in A New Hope.
So I asked him about what he's expecting in Revenge of the Sith. He responded that he's expecting Obi-Wan to get a new apprentice, named Vader. Vader becomes evil, breaks the Jedi Code, seduces Padme (lol), and gets her pregnant with Anakin's illegitimate son, Luke. Vader and Anakin then have a confrontation, in which Vader murders Anakin, only for Obi-Wan to defeat him in combat afterwards.
This idea of what's about to happen fits both Vader's revelation to Luke that he is his father, and fits Obi-Wan's claim that Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin.
So I decide I have to watch Revenge of the Sith with him.
From the beginning, he was completely into the story. After Dooku was killed, he expected Vader, Sidious's new apprentice, to go undercover as a Jedi apprentice to Obi-Wan. But as the film progressed and no entirely new character showed up, he began to get concerned.
By the time Obi-Wan goes to Utapau to fight Grevious, he looked confused. I asked him what was up and he said he didn't understand how the film could fit that much more information into the remaining hour and twenty minutes.
Palpatine reveals himself as Sidious. My friend is actually surprised by this, and by this time he has no idea what to expect.
As Anakin rushes to save Palpatine from Mace Windu, he's incredibly confused. Then, Anakin disarms Mace and pledges himself to Palpatine. And then comes the line... "I name you Darth...Vader."
Holy shit. My friend's jaw literally dropped open, and he just stared at me. I actually had to keep myself from laughing.
The remaining hour of the film was a joyride to watch. Seeing everything line up into place and his reaction was one of the greatest experiences of my life. And then at the end when he finally saw Anakin being placed into Vader's iconic armor, I think it finally hit him what was really going on.
After he finished it, I decided I wanted to watch Empire Strikes Back with him. For one reason, it's easily the best Star Wars film and I'll always watch it given the opportunity, and two, I wanted to see his response to the twist.
We get to the twist and he seems unsurprised. He confesses he's heard the line before but didn't know the context. So while it was a bit of a shock to him, he says he knew it had to be coming at some point.
I'm a bit disappointed, but glad he likes the films. I decided to make him my Machete Order test subject (yes...I know, probably should've given them to him in release order), but in the end it was worth it.
(Side note: I incorporate Episode I into Machete Order, right between V and II.)
So he finishes Phantom Menace, then Attack of the Clones. He watched these on his own, then as he's handing Attack of the Clones back to me, he says: "I would have thought they'd introduced Vader by now."
I almost blew it. But I wisely bit back my initial response and asked him what he meant.
Turns out my friend never put together that Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. He knew from Empire Strikes Back that Darth Vader is Luke's father, but he had merged this revelation with Obi-Wan's lie in A New Hope.
So I asked him about what he's expecting in Revenge of the Sith. He responded that he's expecting Obi-Wan to get a new apprentice, named Vader. Vader becomes evil, breaks the Jedi Code, seduces Padme (lol), and gets her pregnant with Anakin's illegitimate son, Luke. Vader and Anakin then have a confrontation, in which Vader murders Anakin, only for Obi-Wan to defeat him in combat afterwards.
This idea of what's about to happen fits both Vader's revelation to Luke that he is his father, and fits Obi-Wan's claim that Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin.
So I decide I have to watch Revenge of the Sith with him.
From the beginning, he was completely into the story. After Dooku was killed, he expected Vader, Sidious's new apprentice, to go undercover as a Jedi apprentice to Obi-Wan. But as the film progressed and no entirely new character showed up, he began to get concerned.
By the time Obi-Wan goes to Utapau to fight Grevious, he looked confused. I asked him what was up and he said he didn't understand how the film could fit that much more information into the remaining hour and twenty minutes.
Palpatine reveals himself as Sidious. My friend is actually surprised by this, and by this time he has no idea what to expect.
As Anakin rushes to save Palpatine from Mace Windu, he's incredibly confused. Then, Anakin disarms Mace and pledges himself to Palpatine. And then comes the line... "I name you Darth...Vader."
Holy shit. My friend's jaw literally dropped open, and he just stared at me. I actually had to keep myself from laughing.
The remaining hour of the film was a joyride to watch. Seeing everything line up into place and his reaction was one of the greatest experiences of my life. And then at the end when he finally saw Anakin being placed into Vader's iconic armor, I think it finally hit him what was really going on.
Craegus
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Release order is probably the best (and my recommendation) for the first time as IV, V, and VI are the better films and keep the whole excitement for a first time or newer viewer. I, II and III could hurt the viewing experience.
The other option would be: RO, IV, V, I (optional), II, III, VI, VII, VIII if you wanted the story to seem integrated into a proper storyline order.
Basically this is machete order but some do not place RO at the beginning.
For me RO to V gives a chronological order of the story based on Luke's story, followed by a flashback to see how certain moments came to be (eps I, II, and III), then the logical conclusion and extension of the story in VI, VII and VIII
For me RO to V gives a chronological order of the story based on Luke's story, followed by a flashback to see how certain moments came to be (eps I, II, and III), then the logical conclusion and extension of the story in VI, VII and VIII
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I'll probably do like one a week. Sunday night movie or something. I'm definitely not a binge watcher in any way really, so I doubt I can watch more than one at a time without losing interest.
Yeah see this is the thing. I know the basic plot and with it the major twist. So I'm not going in completely blind and in some ways probably won't get the "full" experience of a newbie regardless.
Interesting you mention Rogue One. My wife is a pretty big fan (fwiw she suggested release order) and said if I want to do it in chronological order I'd need to watch RO before IV. I had thought that was more of a side story that wasn't completely necessary to the main story arc, but apparently not?
Dylan8
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The story isn't made better by the prequels so there's no point mixing and matching with alternate view orders
Dylan8
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Rogue One isn't important at all
Andonis1997
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Oh for god sake, I read the spoiler.
So, now that's ruined any chance of me watching them.
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Here's the new one. Got quite a bit done in a few hours, so now you can lock the old one if you want.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/1983-what-if-the-vfl-wafl-and-sanfl-merged.1189640/
Craegus
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RO is not directly part of the main story but could be considered as an extended intro to episode IV.
Am I the only one around here who reckons the prequels aren't that bad?
Also I would advise ignoring everyone's (including my own) opinions on the movies and go into them with an open mind
fancyscum
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I don’t reckon they deserve all the crap they get.
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TheLoungeLizard
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I could never get into Star Wars, or Pokemon while we're at it.
Always the weirdest loser kids at school got into that shit and it sort of killed it for me
Always the weirdest loser kids at school got into that shit and it sort of killed it for me
fancyscum
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Fixed now, my phone must have hit post without me pressing it.
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