Play Nice Random Chat Thread: Episode III

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Bushfires in Australia are guaranteed, so stop worrying.

Yeh I am talking catastrophes like Black Saturday

The fallout from that day is unseen; the mental scarring of people I know and the ripples through their lives since never gets reported (as in the washup if any disaster)
 

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They’re "pro-life" right up until the kid is born, at which point they are against them getting education, health care, or any other support. "Pro-life" is the most hypocritical moniker for a conservative position in a movement that’s drenched in hypocrisy.

Not to mention support for the death penalty and the believers hour of victory.
 
Not to mention support for the death penalty and the believers hour of victory.
Not necessarily true and is more of stereotype. My position would be considered as a pro-life position, but the death penalty is an outdated feature of a bygone era, many true Australian and worldwide conservatives would argue the same. Not sure what believers hour of victory is or what you mean by it.

Not a shot at you, but American conservatism is not the only form of conservatism, so I am not sure why people keep interchanging Republican Conservatism with actual textbook conservatism or even the more common forms of centre right conservatism. Republican conservatism is closer to the extreme end of what conservatism actually is. True conservatism has more right wing liberal roots. The current liberal party is not an example of it, I don't know what that party's principles are anymore beyond simple centrist populism.
 
Yeh I am talking catastrophes like Black Saturday

The fallout from that day is unseen; the mental scarring of people I know and the ripples through their lives since never gets reported (as in the washup if any disaster)


They're also guaranteed. Stop worrying.
 
My biggest worry is next month and the likelihood of Bush fires aka 2010....it is so dry!
Bushfires are the work of devil. I’d love to live in the Adelaide’s Hills but I know I’d be on edge for most of the summer and it would screw with my health!

Hope you get to though unscathed.
 
If you can't see that abortion rights skew to the less privileged end of the socio-economic spectrum, or the massive overlap between support for anti-abortion positions and support for policies hostile to less privileged children like separating children from their families at the border, (aka punishing the vulnerable as a warning to others) or opposition to affordable health care, then I can't help but think you're being wilfully obtuse.

Anyway, this is why I prefer not to engage in politics here. It makes me sad about people whose posting I otherwise enjoy. I'd rather talk about footy. I'm out.
"if you"

That's part of the reason why people can't discuss key issues like adults because most of the time there is an individual putting themselves on a pedestal and making assumptions. I said nothing of the sort. I think the decision is up to the person and I don't try and force my opinion onto others. By me saying that I hadn't noticed a section of people do that you jumped to conclusions and had to point out how that somehow makes you a better person. :thumbsu:
Nah mate, it's just the tribalism that gets me (not you specifically). Going all in on the culture war of the moment. I just think it's disingenuous to try and pretend these kids aren't racist shits.
Again...assumptions. The footage showed nothing of the sort. Being quick to judge is an issue - one that should be addressed. Sadly those that rush to make judgements and condemn people without knowing the full story or having all the facts didn't learn a thing.

The show goes on...
 

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I’m not; it’s just conversation

Instead we should be worrying about Tony Jones after last nights post match interview

Lol

I told yas 2 Monday’s ago


I'm sorry mate, but I don't make a point of putting such things in my diary.
 
Bushfires in Australia are guaranteed, so stop worrying.

I'm the captain of a bushfire brigade and my home (which i'm away from at the moment) is in the worst drought I've seen. There are old people around there saying the same thing. i worry about this shit all the time. if it all goes properly pear shaped then the odds are my house will go (i'll be too busy doing other stuff to look after it) and maybe 100 people will die. From my local community. Its my responsibility to deal with that to the best of my ability. And yeah, eventually it'll be a matter of when not if.

I know people mentally scarred by fires. It ****s with your head. There's nothing scarier than an out of control fire going ballistic. So people who've seen people die or lost family, homes or stock and livelihoods (or whatever else) from fires really struggle. Some never recover. I've seen tornados of fire hundreds of feet high, fireballs 10s of meters across jumping hundreds of metres and exploding like napalm when they land. And felt heat from fires so far away we couldn't see them, fires so hot they could kill you from hundreds of metres away if you weren't protected from the radiant heat. The fear is primal, you know, not just in your head but in every cell of your body that there is no surviving that. Bush fires, even small ones, are merciless.

The people that suffer in bushfires see all that stuff, experience it at its most intense and aren't ready for it usually. And the fire usually costs them something they care about.

I've just driven 1000 miles thru western NSW and then Vic from Tocumwal. Everywhere down past where Gaso lives is tinder dry and ready to burn like ****. I've been driving thru that part of the world for decades and its the worst I've seen since 2003. It may even be worse. When you start seeing dead gum trees then its pretty bloody dry. Dead dingo's donga dry.
 
I'm the captain of a bushfire brigade and my home (which i'm away from at the moment) is in the worst drought I've seen. There are old people around there saying the same thing. i worry about this shit all the time. if it all goes properly pear shaped then the odds are my house will go (i'll be too busy doing other stuff to look after it) and maybe 100 people will die. From my local community. Its my responsibility to deal with that to the best of my ability. And yeah, eventually it'll be a matter of when not if.

I know people mentally scarred by fires. It ****s with your head. There's nothing scarier than an out of control fire going ballistic. So people who've seen people die or lost family, homes or stock and livelihoods (or whatever else) from fires really struggle. Some never recover. I've seen tornados of fire hundreds of feet high, fireballs 10s of meters across jumping hundreds of metres and exploding like napalm when they land. And felt heat from fires so far away we couldn't see them, fires so hot they could kill you from hundreds of metres away if you weren't protected from the radiant heat. The fear is primal, you know, not just in your head but in every cell of your body that there is no surviving that. Bush fires, even small ones, are merciless.

The people that suffer in bushfires see all that stuff, experience it at its most intense and aren't ready for it usually. And the fire usually costs them something they care about.

I've just driven 1000 miles thru western NSW and then Vic from Tocumwal. Everywhere down past where Gaso lives is tinder dry and ready to burn like ****. I've been driving thru that part of the world for decades and its the worst I've seen since 2003. It may even be worse. When you start seeing dead gum trees then its pretty bloody dry. Dead dingo's donga dry.

All people can do is make the proper preparations. They are a guaranteed event in this country.

If you live in a heavily wooded area and don't have some kind of underground bunker with water & oxygen, or a bug out plan, then you are poorly prepared.

If you live on the plains and don't have fire control measures and a bug out plan, then you are poorly prepared.
 
Not necessarily true and is more of stereotype. My position would be considered as a pro-life position, but the death penalty is an outdated feature of a bygone era, many true Australian and worldwide conservatives would argue the same. Not sure what believers hour of victory is or what you mean by it.

Not a shot at you, but American conservatism is not the only form of conservatism, so I am not sure why people keep interchanging Republican Conservatism with actual textbook conservatism or even the more common forms of centre right conservatism. Republican conservatism is closer to the extreme end of what conservatism actually is. True conservatism has more right wing liberal roots. The current liberal party is not an example of it, I don't know what that party's principles are anymore beyond simple centrist populism.

Didn't this incident happen in America? Those people in the red (I've only looked this up today so i'm not really over the incident) hats represent the sort of Republican conservatism that made the US such a dog eat dog place. We're not having a shot at anyone else, well i'm not anyway.

And most people do conflate US conservatism with conservatism as a whole because that's how the media narrative is structured. US "conservativism" - basically the bastard child of Ayn Rand and Billy Graham - bleats the loudest and makes the claim to represent all conservative values fairly constantly. It'd be much better if other conservative voices were more popular cos even environmentalism is a form of conservative thought if you look at it the right (or wrong) way. But there are a lot of people who get power and wealth from those views dominating debates.

And there's an element that dominates US conservatism and genuinely hates people and human things.

I think William Burroughs summed it up best in his Thanksgiving day prayer:


For decent church-goin' women,
with their mean, pinched, bitter,
evil faces.

Thanks for
"Kill a Queer for Christ"
stickers


and especially that devastating last line

Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal
of the last and greatest
of human dreams.


As far as pro life goes ... its should be an individuals choice whether they want another potential human effectively being a parasite for 9 months.

Its not men's business imo. We don't carry kids to term, and in a society where individual freedom and choice is so valued the people who do (ie women) should be the ones who exercise the right to choose whether they want to go thru that or not. Especially given the potential for death that is still there (even with the modern medical stuff we have to keep mums and babies alive when they would have died even half a century ago.)
 
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