Opinion Rank these players in order from 1-6: Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley,James Hird, Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss

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They are the best of the best Midfielders who plyed their footy in the 21st Century.



They've won 8 brownlows and 6 Norm Smiths between them.

Gaz Jnr comes 1st and the rest you can throw a blanket over, hard to split.

It wil come down to leadership qualities, carrying your team over the line, Skills and toughness, performances in big games, indvidual awards etc.

Each of these six have their own claim to be the best.

Gaz jnr the most consistent and dominant over a long period, Buckley the most skillful and the best kick, Hird the most versatile, Judd the most explosive and probably had the highest peak. Martin, undoubtebly the best big game performer, Vossy the toughest and the best leader.

How would you rank them over their careers?

For me, I'm leaning towards.

1 Gary Ablett Jnr
2. Voss
3.Martin
4. Hird
5. Buckley
6. Judd
 

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Adam Goodes, Simon Black, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendlebury, Mark Riccuito, Robert Harvey and Joel Selwood are wondering what happened to their invitations?
 
Adam Goodes, Simon Black, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendlebury, Mark Riccuito, Robert Harvey and Joel Selwood are wondering what happened to their invitations?
You can add Mcleod danger & Fyfe to the list.

I see them in the 2nd tier just below these six.

Feel free to add them and rank all of them !
 
If you hve the time, write your reasons as well.
Here's an example as to why someone like Pendlebury should be in there ahead of someone like Martin:
Player/SeasonBrownlowAFLCAAFLMVPClub B&FFinals RatingsAll-Australian
Martin 20171st (36 votes)1st (122 votes)1st1st90, 80, 90Centre
Pendlebury 2011Eq. 4th (24 votes)7th (79 votes)2nd1st95, 90, 90Wing
Pendlebury 2013Eq. 6th (21 votes)1st (96 votes)4th1st75Wing
Martin 20163rd (25 votes)3rd (90 votes)3rd1stN/ABench
Pendlebury 2010Eq. 4th (21 votes)Eq. 11th (61 votes)3rd2nd85, 85, 50, 90Bench
Martin 2020Eq. 5th (15 votes)15th (42 votes)N/A2nd70, 85, 85, 100Forward Flank
Martin 2019Eq. 6th (23 votes)Eq. 11th (71 votes)N/A6th90, 75, 90Squad
Martin 2018Eq. 6th (19 votes)Eq. 8th (70 votes)4th3rd90, 40Centre
Pendlebury 2012Eq. 11th (15 votes)9th (76 votes)N/A2nd85, 85, 90Bench
Pendlebury 2014Eq. 11th (16 votes)Eq. 5th (72 votes)6th1stN/ABench
Pendlebury 2019Eq. 21st (14 votes)14th (68 votes)N/A2nd85, 75Bench
Pendlebury 201515th (15 votes)9th (67 votes)N/A1stN/ASquad
Martin 20157th (21 votes)Eq. 12th (61 votes)N/A2nd80Squad
Pendlebury 2016Eq. 15th (17 votes)Eq. 12th (68 votes)N/A1stN/ASquad
Pendlebury 2018Eq. 16th (15 votes)Eq. 15th (62 votes)N/A3rd50, 75, 75, 65Squad
Martin 2013Eq. 13th (16 votes)Eq. 17th (58 votes)N/A2nd75N/A
Pendlebury 20222 votesN/AN/A2nd85, 80, 85N/A
Martin 2014Eq. 20th (13 votes)N/AN/A3rd85Squad
Pendlebury 2020Eq. 11th (13 votes)Eq. 13th (43 votes)N/A2nd70, 60Squad
Pendlebury 20087 votesN/AN/A3rd80, 85N/A
Martin 2011Eq. 21st (12 votes)N/AN/A3rdN/AN/A
Pendlebury 2017Eq. 12th (15 votes)N/AN/A6thN/AN/A
Pendlebury 2009Eq. 14th (13 votes)N/AN/A6th10N/A
Pendlebury 20216 votesN/AN/A3rdN/AN/A
Pendlebury 20071 voteN/AN/A2nd80, 80, 40N/A
Martin 20106 votesN/AN/A4thN/AN/A
Martin 20125 votesN/AN/A10thN/AN/A

Pendlebury has 3 of the best 5 seasons, 9 of the best 15 seasons, 12 of the best 20 seasons.
 

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Here's an example as to why someone like Pendlebury should be in there ahead of someone like Martin:
Player/SeasonBrownlowAFLCAAFLMVPClub B&FFinals RatingsAll-Australian
Martin 20171st (36 votes)1st (122 votes)1st1st90, 80, 90Centre
Pendlebury 2011Eq. 4th (24 votes)7th (79 votes)2nd1st95, 90, 90Wing
Pendlebury 2013Eq. 6th (21 votes)1st (96 votes)4th1st75Wing
Martin 20163rd (25 votes)3rd (90 votes)3rd1stN/ABench
Pendlebury 2010Eq. 4th (21 votes)Eq. 11th (61 votes)3rd2nd85, 85, 50, 90Bench
Martin 2020Eq. 5th (15 votes)15th (42 votes)N/A2nd70, 85, 85, 100Forward Flank
Martin 2019Eq. 6th (23 votes)Eq. 11th (71 votes)N/A6th90, 75, 90Squad
Martin 2018Eq. 6th (19 votes)Eq. 8th (70 votes)4th3rd90, 40Centre
Pendlebury 2012Eq. 11th (15 votes)9th (76 votes)N/A2nd85, 85, 90Bench
Pendlebury 2014Eq. 11th (16 votes)Eq. 5th (72 votes)6th1stN/ABench
Pendlebury 2019Eq. 21st (14 votes)14th (68 votes)N/A2nd85, 75Bench
Pendlebury 201515th (15 votes)9th (67 votes)N/A1stN/ASquad
Martin 20157th (21 votes)Eq. 12th (61 votes)N/A2nd80Squad
Pendlebury 2016Eq. 15th (17 votes)Eq. 12th (68 votes)N/A1stN/ASquad
Pendlebury 2018Eq. 16th (15 votes)Eq. 15th (62 votes)N/A3rd50, 75, 75, 65Squad
Martin 2013Eq. 13th (16 votes)Eq. 17th (58 votes)N/A2nd75N/A
Pendlebury 20222 votesN/AN/A2nd85, 80, 85N/A
Martin 2014Eq. 20th (13 votes)N/AN/A3rd85Squad
Pendlebury 2020Eq. 11th (13 votes)Eq. 13th (43 votes)N/A2nd70, 60Squad
Pendlebury 20087 votesN/AN/A3rd80, 85N/A
Martin 2011Eq. 21st (12 votes)N/AN/A3rdN/AN/A
Pendlebury 2017Eq. 12th (15 votes)N/AN/A6thN/AN/A
Pendlebury 2009Eq. 14th (13 votes)N/AN/A6th10N/A
Pendlebury 20216 votesN/AN/A3rdN/AN/A
Pendlebury 20071 voteN/AN/A2nd80, 80, 40N/A
Martin 20106 votesN/AN/A4thN/AN/A
Martin 20125 votesN/AN/A10thN/AN/A

Pendlebury has 3 of the best 5 seasons, 9 of the best 15 seasons, 12 of the best 20 seasons.
Uhh no. Pendles is a level below these guys. Hes more in the Cotchin, Mitchell etc category. Hes in the elite category not the super elite.
 
Main arguements against Pendles is that he has never been the best player in the Comp.He is very good in all facets of the game, and ultra consitent but just lacks that extra 1% which makes you the best. He's never had a goal/game season nor averaged a 30 possesions per game season.

Very tough to rate these type of players, but i have him the tier below along with Robert Harvey, Black, Mitchell etc.
 
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1. Chris Judd (7-15)
2. Gary Ablett Jnr (7-15)
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3. Michael Voss (15-20)
4. Nathan Buckley (20-30)
5. James Hird (20-30)
6. Ben Cousins (20-30)
7. Robert Harvey (25-35)
8. Mark Riccuito (30-40)
9. Adam Goodes (30-40)
10. Dustin Martin (40-50)
11. Scott Pendlebury (40-50)
12. Simon Black (45-60)
13. Sam Mitchell (50-70)
14. Joel Selwood (60-80)
 
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1. Buckley - just a great
2. Judd - prime WCE was unstoppable - his best was the best theres ever been.
3. Voss - extra points for leadership
4. Ablett - the longest prime and racked up 30+ for fun but for me his out and out best not as good as a Buckley, Judd, Martin out and out best
5. Martin - great player
6. Hird - he was ok
 
Adam Goodes, Simon Black, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendlebury, Mark Riccuito, Robert Harvey and Joel Selwood are wondering what happened to their invitations?

They aren’t as good. I’ve been telling you this for a while now. But you’re still in denial.
 

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Opinion Rank these players in order from 1-6: Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley,James Hird, Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss

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