Autopsy Rd 21: Freo go down in a close one

[poshman]

As long as the club gets the same money or better it doesn't matter. If the club had to take a financial hit for it then it's a problem.

Agree and disagree - a longterm stable sponsor is great for stability, forecasting and planning.

 

[hoss]

he panicked, threw the ball on the left boot off one step from a hand ball from Andy. Shanked the ball straight down a Brisbane players throat.
If he’d steadied and kicked long we’d have had a chance

Yeah, but the easy set shot misses under no pressure whatsoever cost us more.

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[Taylor]

Sturt realising his potential is massive for us AND he's still got so much to go, I've seen it. Natural forward who knows where to be and when and adds a much needed difference between the smalls and talls. If we lose him that'll break me

It was unfortunate he missed that shot playing on from the Brayshaw free kick with half a minute to go in the third, the one that lead to a score at the other end right before the siren.

We need that aggression so I'm not unhappy about it but I won't be surprised if he isn't playing against the Eagles for a team rules reason since the drop the anchor sign was up and we could have used just killing 30 seconds off the clock before a set shot that falls short.

But I wouldn't be saying a thing if he drilled the shot on the run, we'd have gone into the 4th twelve points better off.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I'll add, Henry's growth has been unreal the 2nd half of this year. It all just makes sense for him now and another 40 games and those clangers will be down to 1 a game. I'm so ****ing angry we are losing him and Bell better make whoever gets him pay full ****ing price rather than fold. I'll lose him for nothing rather than get anything less that what he's shown the last 6 weeks.

 

[Footskill]

Right? This bloke has clearly never listened to Paul Haselby, that bloke has no idea despite playing at the level for 10 plus years. Countless other examples too.

Actually Haselby has a good grasp...I've listened to him on the Duffield podcast and he was quite on the money about our woes. However, the Haselby moonlighting for the west for clickbaits isva different story.

 

[poshman]

Had the daughters birthday so only just got through the game.

I have almost nothing but positives. That was a terrific game of footy and THAT's what we expected most weeks this year. We played considerably better than last week it's just Brisbane didnt lose key players and are a better team.

• Jackson is our best player, now, and for the next 10 years. He's a point of difference we needed badly in our list and is remarkably still value for that trade even though we are paying twice as much as we thought / should have.
• Treacy and Amiss are legit going to be our best forward duo in our history. Pav would have killed to have a number 2 like Treacy during his career.
• Young is clearly never moving out of the midfield again which brings up a crazy amount of list questions...
• We lost on experience which is frustrating
• It's not his fault but Corbett rather that a fit Tabs or Darcy rucking with Jackson up front is as much a difference maker in that game as anything. Seems like a terrific dude but he's not AFL level.
• Sturt realising his potential is massive for us AND he's still got so much to go, I've seen it. Natural forward who knows where to be and when and adds a much needed difference between the smalls and talls. If we lose him that'll break me

Agreed - I will add that Wagner has shown enough that can say he is a player.

With Young in the midfield from now on - chappy coming back and talk about midfield time, the list management strategy and questions around it a huge.

Agree on Corbett.

Sturt is massive.

Jackson is by far our most important and impactful player.

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

last year 15.5 wins

this year 8-11 (likely 9 or 10)

dont worry about ladder spot, not often 2x north/wce level teams


the positive about dropping out this year, is that we can develop a young list and play more youth than we would have if we were challenging.

adding young to the mid means we have:
brayshaw, serong, young, johnson, erasmus, (henry?), NOD, Stanley
thats a pretty good core midfield and very young.


chapman can replace young in the backline and potentially cox can play a more creative role which suits him.

 

[what a game]

The players leaving were never the problem. It’s the decline in performance of several players that should be more experienced that is a worry. Plus the over the top conservatism of the coaches.

• Young should have been in the midfield weeks ago
• Hughes in the wing earlier this year was a horror show
• Sturt should have played at least an extra 15 games over the past 2 years to develop his craft quicker at this level, gifting games constantly to inferior players like Banfield is hurting us in the long run and now we could end up losing Sturt. How dockery.
• the slow ball movement was obviously out of date but took weeks to address

Top that off with some curious list management where players that are depth role players at best or unproven youngsters that have never been sighted at AFL level are getting unwarranted and unnecessary extensions (some for 2 years even) such as Worner, Kuek, Banfield, Josh Draper.
Why are these players being contracted and signed up while Sam Sturt is left hanging and now with 3 games left hes OOC, playing very well and we all know what that means. We will have to pay a lot more to keep him now, or worse still, could lose him just as he’s about to pop as an AFL player. Dumb dumb stuff.

Yes I gree with you not all but great post

 

[King Tenz]

Actually Haselby has a good grasp...I've listened to him on the Duffield podcast and he was quite on the money about our woes. However, the Haselby moonlighting for the west for clickbaits isva different story.

Duffield has a podcast? Yeah all I see is the West stuff so that explains my perspective on him lol

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

afl involved in woodside.

they have thrown us host plus at same money

just like they threw host plus at the suns


sad. woke. just like female womens coach. welcome to country aboriginal garb. we hardly have any aboriginals any more, walters old, henry on the way out.

 

[King Tenz]

afl involved in woodside.

they have thrown us host plus at same money

just like they threw host plus at the suns


sad. woke. just like female womens coach. welcome to country aboriginal garb. we hardly have any aboriginals any more, walters old, henry on the way out.

So we're definitely losing Woodside or no?

 

[mattis117]

The players leaving were never the problem. It’s the decline in performance of several players that should be more experienced that is a worry. Plus the over the top conservatism of the coaches.

• Young should have been in the midfield weeks ago
• Hughes in the wing earlier this year was a horror show
• Sturt should have played at least an extra 15 games over the past 2 years to develop his craft quicker at this level, gifting games constantly to inferior players like Banfield is hurting us in the long run and now we could end up losing Sturt. How dockery.
• the slow ball movement was obviously out of date but took weeks to address

Top that off with some curious list management where players that are depth role players at best or unproven youngsters that have never been sighted at AFL level are getting unwarranted and unnecessary extensions (some for 2 years even) such as Worner, Kuek, Banfield, Josh Draper.
Why are these players being contracted and signed up while Sam Sturt is left hanging and now with 3 games left hes OOC, playing very well and we all know what that means. We will have to pay a lot more to keep him now, or worse still, could lose him just as he’s about to pop as an AFL player. Dumb dumb stuff.

Ah judging with hindsight, very wise. It's like you can't be happy these days, long time since I've seen you post something positive.

Your pessimism triggers me haha.

Edit, I read the Sturt thread, at least there's something.

 

[Sweetback]

**** Woodside. The sponsorship money is the same isn’t it?

 

[Spirit Level]

Don't get AFL in Czechia unfortunately, looks like Sammy continued his upward trajectory though?

 

[King Tenz]

Ah judging with hindsight, very wise. It's like you can't be happy these days, long time since I've seen you post something positive.

Your pessimism triggers me haha.

I like the Dockeroo

Gives an honest take and I tend to agree with everything they say, I respect it.

 

[King Tenz]

Don't get AFL in Czechia unfortunately, looks like Sammy continued his upward trajectory though?

Sturt was real good, one of our best and arguably his best game for us. Kicked a clutch goal late from like 40 out near the boundary.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Ok, they were taking the Ch7 feed so they cut to an ad during the replay, but it looked like a free to us live.

live I thought the same but on replay wasn’t great from the captain

 

[Kram]

afl involved in woodside.

they have thrown us host plus at same money

just like they threw host plus at the suns


sad. woke. just like female womens coach. welcome to country aboriginal garb. we hardly have any aboriginals any more, walters old, henry on the way out.

If true pretty funny from an organisation that stops so low to gambling money now that they even integrate Mr Brown and live betting odds into the Brownlow Medal.

 

[mattis117]

I like the Dockeroo

Gives an honest take and I tend to agree with everything they say, I respect it.

It's not personal, I just don't agree with anyone judging previous decisions using information that wasn't available when that decision was made. That's what hind sight is, an unfair judgement that people made mistakes in their decision making without accounting for their perspective at the time.

E.g. You don't know players have lost form till they've played a few bad games in a row. You don't know Young is going to play well as a mid till he's played well as a mid etc.

There is no value in hindsight. There is much value in not blaming, but being honest about what actually happened and learning from it.

 

[Sweetback]

If true pretty funny from an organisation that stops so low to gambling money now that they even integrate Mr Brown and live betting odds into the Brownlow Medal.

Pretty sure the clubs organise their own sponsorships anyway

 

[Bud]

Was the front on contact from Cam Rayney on Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

deserving of a report.. noticed Jordy motioning to Umps he copped a forearm to the head.. no free kick and a lions goal followed

 

[arsesmart]

Don't get AFL in Czechia unfortunately, looks like Sammy continued his upward trajectory though?

Could've been handy to have Sturt in that last half of the last quarter when we needed to get our noses in front.

 

[rgauci]

Could've been handy to have Sturt in that last half of the last quarter when we needed to get our noses in front.

Before that goal he’d lost 2x one on one contests to Payne in the 4th quarter. Neither kick hugely to his advantage but he could have done more to bring it to ground.

In saying that, he’s come a long long way. I think he’s cemented himself in my best 22.

He’s playing better than Walters the past month.

 

[DQ 4EVER]

Would have to be the worst hack kick in the afl. Gets a lot of it, but is big time billy butcher

Serong's hack kicks are equal to Brayshaw's kicks when he isn't under pressure
And he runs past begging for the back when a much better kick has the ball
Does my head in

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[Demons09]

depends on your personal opinion we are probably going to end up on 10/11 wins yet be 15th honestly big whoop

for all of the flak the club copped at the end of last year regards trading
what have those that have left achieved ?

amiss treacy Henry Johnson erasmus walker sturt have all got valuable games and experience this year
young to the midfield now ( preseason for a tank )
Jackson and omeara have grown into the year
we weren’t winning a flag this year even if we improved off last year
but the build for the next 3 years in my opinion is positive

There’s no guarantees in football.