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I vote to bring Raygun in for VDM
At least the tax payer isn’t funding Vanders' place in the team. SMH.
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I vote to bring Raygun in for VDM
Didn't get to watch today's game due to work...
..don't watch it is the vibe I'm getting here?
Interesting analysis. We've lost key players along the way to massive injuries. Bob Murphy, Mitch Wallis, Clay Smith, Liam Picken. What would Richmond have done without Dustin Martin during the 2017+ era?For some reason even when we are a very good side we can't string together a long sequence of wins. To be fair, it's normally only the very best sides that put together long sequences of wins ... but haven't we been one of them for at least some of the last decade?
Consider the premiers for the last decade:
Collingwood (2023 premier) won 8 on end. They also won 7 on end when they were runners up in 2018.
Geelong (2022) won 16 on end. Say no more. I haven't even bothered to look past that for Geelong. A truly professional and reliable side nearly every season.
Melbourne (2021) won 9 on end and 7 on end in the one season.
Richmond (2020) won 6 on end.
Richmond (2019) won 12 on end.
Richmond though eliminated in the PF in 2018 still won 6 on end and 7 on end that season.
Richmond (2017) won only 5 on end but did it twice.
West Coast (2018) won 10 on end.
Hawthorn (2015) won 8 on end. They also happened to win 9 on end in 2016 and 6 on end in 2018 not to mention their recent 5 on end in 2024. And of course they had long sequences of wins in 2012-2014 as well.
By contrast in 10 seasons under Bevo we have only ever won 6 on end once (in 2021) and 5 on end once (in 2023).
In fact we have won a mere 4 games on end just 5 times in that decade: 2024 (the last four games before today), 2017 (rds 17-20), 2016 (the finals series) and twice in 2015.
Lets put it in a table:
2024 - 4 wins once
2023 - 5 wins once
2022 -
2021 - 6 wins once
2020 -
2019 -
2018 -
2017 - 4 wins once
2016 - 4 wins once incl the flag
2015 - 4 wins twice
Does anybody else see a problem here? For a supposedly powerful side over the last decade this looks decidedly flaky to me. Is it any wonder we can't secure a top 4 spot with this sort of brittleness?
Or is this just telling us that we have never really been top echelon and we were lucky to snag the cup with a purple patch in 2016?
I could try to analyse it every which way (including the bewildering late season losses to lowly teams when finals beckon) but the most positive way I can view it is to look forward and say that if we can beat North next week, then lose to GWS but still somehow make the finals then that will be our best shot at a flag.
Because we can hope to play out of our skins for 4 consecutive weeks as we did in 2016 and again in 2024 over the last 4 weeks, but anything longer than that and the elastic breaks.
They were probably worried about Naughton’s knee, he was wincing at one point. Better to sacrifice this game that was going down the gurgler anyway, and having an ok Naughton for the next few games. I think they did the right thing. Darcy coped as well or not, as expected. It couldn’t be helped.And planning to sub out Naughton left Darcy having to compete against 2 and 3 opponents and cover for English. Why throw a 20 yo to the wolves to help MANAGE your vice- captain who is one of your supposed leaders.
We need a new club psychologist.
If we could all see this was a danger game and the type of game we tend to drop going in, how the hell do the coaches and players fail to recognise it and prepare for it.
Our midfield is still questionable despite the hype. Hope we bring Sanders back in and he is up and about for next week.
We need a new club psychologist.
If we could all see this was a danger game and the type of game we tend to drop going in, how the hell do the coaches and players fail to recognise it and prepare for it.
Our midfield is still questionable despite the hype. Hope we bring Sanders back in and he is up and about for next week.
Libba was chasing shadows too. It's hard yakka at 32 & a bit years old when your ruck is giving you peanuts.Garcia worth persisting with in the midfield? They just walked it out of there today.
This is why we must keep Macrae next yearLibba was chasing shadows too. It's hard yakka at 32 & a bit years old when you're ruck is giving you peanuts.
I wonder if he'll go round again, when the explosive power on your legs goes, it's frustrating chasing younger blokes. Add to this the concussions.
This.
So much for them to do. The inability to bank wins early in the season, the goalkicking, the mental fragility, the timidity, the fact that pressure of expectation makes us crumble, the dropping of games that shouldn't be dropped and the games where we just show no effort...at all.
Lucky the club held its million dollar request thing last week...
Every club has to deal with a fluctuating injury list. It definitely helps if you have luck with few injuries like Melbourne did in 2021. I agree the latter part of 2016 was unusual and injuries had an impact for that part of the year. There was also Macrae’s knee injury for a few weeks late in 2016. But outside that period I don’t remember us having to deal with too much out of the ordinary.Interesting analysis. We've lost key players along the way to massive injuries. Bob Murphy, Mitch Wallis, Clay Smith, Liam Picken. What would Richmond have done without Dustin Martin during the 2017+ era?
It is hard to win games with poor intensity, poor goal kicking, deplorable tackling.
It is even harder when you struggle to win any part of the ground.
In defence only Bramble played a good game. Jones and Lobb were ok. Dale and Durea poor. This exposed the obvious weaknesses of Buku and Coffield that the others had been covering off for a couple of weeks.
In the midfield other than Trealor and Williams all others poor to shocking. Poulter ok.
The forward line had no winners. Lack of movement, lack of separation, lack of goal kicking. Only McNeil played at the level.
Opportunity for a bit of a shake up in the team and be a bit brave with selections
Interesting Bevo presser. Pretty much conceded that getting killed in the ruck is a big issue.
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The game was lost in the middle from the very start. English was completely ineffective at the stoppages/bounces and each time he did get hands to the ball it went straight to the opposition. Libba rarely got first use and Richards was down last night as well
VDM had another howler, Garcia was lost in most contests and Astro had a bad game.
Crows did their homework and played well against us.
I just can’t understand how we go from performances over the last four weeks to yesterday’s disaster. We have basically been ranked top 4 in every key stat and rating in the second half of the season, so it’s not like we are just the usual flakey side that can get found out away from home like Fremantle, or for a closer comparison, us in the past two seasons.
We didn’t actually win on any front, forward line, midfield and backline all sucked. We never even looked like being in the game or even kicking a goal.
How does that happen? The only genuine explanation could be that we are a team of mental cases that desperately need world class psychs in the joint. The worst part is this isn’t even the first time. It’s probably the 30th time in 5 years I have seen us not even turn up for the first minute. At least this was on a Sunday and not the usual Friday night where the world can see it.