Rory Loab
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Well I've finally tested positive to Covid.
Very very mild symptoms
Very very mild symptoms
Ochre
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Weird, the anti vaxxers are normally the ones who actually get bad symptoms
I've been exposed an outrageous amount of times from tiny nightclubs to festivals to my brother's wedding to my housemate even getting it. Never got it once. What did me in? Some campaigner at work who decided to come in while sick who I must have been around because work was the only place I would have been around the time I was exposed.
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Yeah have avoided until a few weeks ago, also got it at work, off a scummy delivery driver.
I think I’m about a day away from being in the same boat based on who’s had/got it around me
You must be the last person in Melbourne not to have had it
kane249
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I reckon I’ve had it before but the RATs didn’t pick it up. But yeah it’s pretty surprising. Otherwise I’m one of those weirdos that can’t get it.
Anyway been a fun night on the couch going through the draft threads. Decided to cook both nights so that I couldn’t follow the draft and melt. Purple levels of won the draft optimism on here for a change
Ochre
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Crazy so many people are reading positive the day before the test summer starts, what are the odds
Mr Eagle
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Ahem.
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So I wake up to the news that Scomo has been censured. Not being 100% sure on all things surrounding parliamentary proceeding I think to myself 'what is a censure'?
It's nothing. It has no consequence whatsoever. It's the senate telling someone in the lower house they've been a bad boy. And with most things in our parliamentary system the person being censured is free to go 'yeah, whatever' and continue on with whatever they were doing.
Australia really needs to break away from the Westminster system, which relies on shame, and implement some rules of consequence.
It's nothing. It has no consequence whatsoever. It's the senate telling someone in the lower house they've been a bad boy. And with most things in our parliamentary system the person being censured is free to go 'yeah, whatever' and continue on with whatever they were doing.
Australia really needs to break away from the Westminster system, which relies on shame, and implement some rules of consequence.
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It's basically a telling off. 'You've been a very naughty boy.'
But it's a historic telling off
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Further to Agent93's point, the types that find themselves being censured are the types that don't care about being censured.
If it was me I would feel shame and embarrassment. Like I have many, many times before. But these are emotions that these guys don't experience.
If it was me I would feel shame and embarrassment. Like I have many, many times before. But these are emotions that these guys don't experience.
Miguel Sanchez
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It’s a reprimand. Probably the appropriate punishment in this case, when what he did was apparently not technically illegal but stank like a butt convention.
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Still waiting on the MRO to grade this incident
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I liken it to A Current Affair trying to shame Corey Worthington into apologising. That kid didn't care, and ended up showing up ACA for the crap journalism that it is.
Someone talk me through the point of view that what Scomo did was wrong - and understand I have paid no attention to it.
Is it the deception that he was sworn into these portfolios which was the issue or is it the potential he had to manipulate things after being sworn in which was the issue?
At a real surface level, I could kinda understand wanting to be across as many portfolios as possible during a really volatile period in the world, both health and economy wise. It screams of control freak and workaholic, but by rights he has appointed people to oversee these portfolios and they should have regularly reported to him anyway so he was briefed on what's what.
Am I understanding it at all?
Is it the deception that he was sworn into these portfolios which was the issue or is it the potential he had to manipulate things after being sworn in which was the issue?
At a real surface level, I could kinda understand wanting to be across as many portfolios as possible during a really volatile period in the world, both health and economy wise. It screams of control freak and workaholic, but by rights he has appointed people to oversee these portfolios and they should have regularly reported to him anyway so he was briefed on what's what.
Am I understanding it at all?
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Without consequence. If he retained the same powers, he could do it again, and again, and again... and probably would.
So what's the point?
Forward Press
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Multiple ministers are not uncommon, however it was covered up and the Governor-General instructed by the PM to not make it public either. I don't think there would be much of a fuss if alternate ministers were appointed, or processes put in place in the event of incapacitation - we have a system in place already for when ministers die in office, resign, retire suddenly etc. Secret appointments violate the Westminster convention of ministerial responsibility - how can you properly appeal an adverse decision by a minister for example if you didn't know there was another minister responsible for the decision?
It's unprecedented in Australian political history - both the secret appointments and the censure motion of a former PM for doing so.
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