No Oppo Supporters Re-signing Tex, Danger and Sloane *** Crows Only ***

[The Sloane Ranger]

Looking from a negative perspective, he could be saying he really wants to stay but damn it's hard choosing to turn your back on $400k extra per year. All these quality FA's are having to choose between cellar dwellers with plenty of cap space and current clubs with a chance of success but less available space. He's basically saying he wants more to stay but understands why the club can only offer what it can. Of course, I'd give him $200k of Mackays coin without blinking an eyelid. Too late for that though.

Yes some clubs may offer overs however I don't think it will be in the facility of $400k a year

Sloaney is also being smart in setting up some business investments so I don't think he will be hard up for a dollar when he eventually retires

 

[1970crow]

Yes some clubs may offer overs however I don't think it will be in the facility of $400k a year

Sloaney is also being smart in setting up some business investments so I don't think he will be hard up for a dollar when he eventually retires

It's probably the max difference in a perfect storm situation. Our lowest might be $650k and Saints might have $1m plus more of the extra marketing dollars available. I'd guess there'd likely be 3-4 clubs who will table a $200k extra per year offer. There is a chance that there's a club who will offer in the vicinity of $400k more, but maybe not too much of one.

 

[cm_perfect]

Correct!

Can we win a premiership like that? What is our compedative advantage?

Not sure on ours but I think you have nailed the Bombers 12/13 advantage.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

When coupled with his quotes of footy being business now you could look at it as he would love to stay, but it is hard for him to justify staying given the amount of $$ he will be sacrificing compared to what other clubs are prepared to offer above us. Whereas a loyalty bonus to 1 club players would help reduce the financial gap in the equation that he has to decide on and help sway it our direction.

Not saying thats the case but thats the concern for mine and why you can't 100% say those comments are a positive sign (apart from the fact it does demonstrate that he likes it here and would be happy/wants to stay but not necessarily that he actually will)

He is the luke hodge of our club , more than just kicks, tackles and relentless run. Pay him accordingly and if someone offers a ridiculous amount at least we are in the ball park. He is going to be a great finals player with his game style and off the field, around the club he is the heart and soul so pay him accordingly. A few tough decisions will need to be made on players that won't be around at our next flag tilt despite the fact they can still contribute.

 

[Pdub]

Judging by what was said in Caro's article, CC's comments and Mark Bickley's comments on 5aa, Sloane is ready to sign but he wants a longer contract than what the club is offering. Sloane wants a contract that will see him at the club until the end of 2019. Given that he is already contracted for 2015 that is only a 4 year contract, the club has shown with Mackay they don't have an issue with 4 year contracts, so they should be jumping at that offer. My guess is that rory wants his new contract cover the 2015 season, for which the club has already balanced their salary cap so it is going to cause a delay for them to work out how they can do that.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Judging by what was said in Caro's article, CC's comments and Mark Bickley's comments on 5aa, Sloane is ready to sign but he wants a longer contract than what the club is offering. Sloane wants a contract that will see him at the club until the end of 2019. Given that he is already contracted for 2015 that is only a 4 year contract, the club has shown with Mackay they don't have an issue with 4 year contracts, so they should be jumping at that offer. My guess is that rory wants his new contract cover the 2015 season, for which the club has already balanced their salary cap so it is going to cause a delay for them to work out how they can do that.

I very much doubt afc will have a problem offering Sloane a long-term deal - in fact I think they would prefer it! However, given it's longer duration, it may take longer to work through. Patience

 

[Paladin]

Judging by what was said in Caro's article, CC's comments and Mark Bickley's comments on 5aa, Sloane is ready to sign but he wants a longer contract than what the club is offering. Sloane wants a contract that will see him at the club until the end of 2019. Given that he is already contracted for 2015 that is only a 4 year contract, the club has shown with Mackay they don't have an issue with 4 year contracts, so they should be jumping at that offer. My guess is that rory wants his new contract cover the 2015 season, for which the club has already balanced their salary cap so it is going to cause a delay for them to work out how they can do that.

When the saints are offering 800k a year and nobes is saying we can only give you 450k max it probably takes a while to meet in the middle.

Would be incompetent and we would lose more players in the long run if we just offered up more than plan to get it done quickly.

 

[Danoz]

When the saints are offering 800k a year and nobes is saying we can only give you 450k max it probably takes a while to meet in the middle.

Would be incompetent and we would lose more players in the long run if we just offered up more than plan to get it done quickly.

Surely sloane won't be offered less than 600pa

 

[Paladin]

Surely sloane won't be offered less than 600pa

Probably but he is weighing up offers 2-3 hundred k more a season. Adds up over 4 years.

 

[1970crow]

When the saints are offering 800k a year and nobes is saying we can only give you 450k max it probably takes a while to meet in the middle.

Would be incompetent and we would lose more players in the long run if we just offered up more than plan to get it done quickly.

If Mackays getting $400k and we offered Sloane $450k, I wouldn't blame him for pissing on Nobles shoes before walking out the door, never to return.

 

[Paladin]

If Mackays getting $400k and we offered Sloane $450k, I wouldn't blame him for pissing on Nobles shoes before walking out the door, never to return.

That's a big if mate, no doubt Sloane is being offered a far more generous contract than Mackay. I'm yet to see any evidence Dmac is on 400 a year.

 

[1970crow]

That's a big if mate, no doubt Sloane is being offered a far more generous contract than Mackay. I'm yet to see any evidence Dmac is on 400 a year.

What evidence do we ever have when discussing contract values.

 

[Pdub]

When the saints are offering 800k a year and nobes is saying we can only give you 450k max it probably takes a while to meet in the middle.

Would be incompetent and we would lose more players in the long run if we just offered up more than plan to get it done quickly.

All the talk has been that the sticking point is contract length not dollars.

 

[WAG]

Hacked.

Agree with alex, although maybe a bit more.

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[alex_is_on_fire]

Give sloany 5 years for $3,000,000 ($600,000 a year)

 

[Paladin]

All the talk has been that the sticking point is contract length not dollars.

Can you see the club being unwilling to sign him to a long term deal?

Has to be $$$$

 

[Elite Crow]

Give sloany 5 years for $3,000,000 ($600,000 a year)

Given the cap goes up for a 5 year deal he should be getting more than $600k per year. I'd say $3.5M should be more like it. We are taking about one of our top 4 players.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Given the cap goes up for a 5 year deal he should be getting more than $600k per year. I'd say $3.5M should be more like it. We are taking about one of our top 4 players.

5 years is a long time and a big investment.

Maybe he gets $700,000 for years 4 and 5 but only gets $400,000 year 1 and $600,000 the 3rd and 4th year.

 

[Tantidar]

Given the cap goes up for a 5 year deal he should be getting more than $600k per year. I'd say $3.5M should be more like it. We are taking about one of our top 4 players.

Have to factor in Cameron and Aish's combined $1.5 mil a season.

I think $3.5m is fair for sloane. If we are offering less then $600k then I'll fill out the paper work for the pre season draft for him.

 

[Daniel Flynn]

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[Elite Crow]

5 years is a long time and a big investment.

Maybe he gets $700,000 for years 4 and 5 but only gets $400,000 year 1 and $600,000 the 3rd and 4th year.

It is but he would walk into most clubs on a 5 year deal and $400k is an insult

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

It is but he would walk into most clubs on a 5 year deal and $400k is an insult

$3,500,000 over 5 years would work. It's only an extra $100,000 a year.

 

[footy4ever]

http://afl.to/1FZBPW3

Going back a few days, but this article presents a balanced, non-sensational, non-agenda view (take note Rooch you flog) of Danger's and the Crows' situation. If you haven't read it it's worth the read.

 

[Sanders]

Going back a few days, but this article presents a balanced, non-sensational, non-agender view (take note Rooch you flog) of Danger's and the Crows' situation. If you haven't read it it's worth the read.

Yes. That's a pretty fair assessment of things.

 

[footy4ever]

Yes. That's a pretty fair assessment of things.

And…it also presents a non-agenda view as well.



….which I have now edited for fear of being accused of bringing gender into the conversation.