Player Watch Reef McInnes

[loki04]

With our aging list and large number of injuries this year, we’d have to be one of the teams that offer the best opportunities?

Not if you don't transition from the old to the new to allow for said opportunities.

It will depend on the direction the club take at years end.

I would hazard a guess they don't want to lose youth that look even remotely capable.

 

[loki04]

If we could any currency for those two it would be a plus.


Sunken cost fallacy. What we paid for them back then is irrelevant.


Young players who don’t make an impact get delisted all the time when they fail to make an impressions, regardless of the age of the list.

I don’t see two youngsters being moved on who failed to bail their chances, which were multiple btw, as a bad sign.

Imo Reef hasn't failed. Even Fin has had moments although looks to lack that AFL quality.

Neither have been shown the faith for blocks of games non sub, of say a Harrison.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Not if you don't transition from the old to the new to allow for said opportunities.

It will depend on the direction the club take at years end.

I would hazard a guess they don't want to lose youth that look even remotely capable.

Perhaps they want to try Reef in different positions. He hasn't got the tank for midfield. He's not tall enough to be a kpf.

Jen said he was training in defence this morning.

Fin simply hasn't taken his opportunities when given them this year, unfortunately.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Put all the work into reef if pies lose him now will be a bloody disaster

Ready to go in 2025

Ffs

 

[Kappa]

Put all the work into reef if pies lose him now will be a bloody disaster

Ready to go in 2025

Ffs

If you were in Reef shoes and another club offered you games every week where do you go? He'd probably be extremely frustrated that he's either sub or dropped (or both) after every game.

 

[sr36]

If you were in Reef shoes and another club offered you games every week where do you go?

To a shoe shop to get some shoes that aren't too big for me.

 

[NMBB]

To a shoe shop to get some shoes that aren't too big for me.

 

[whiskeytown]

Y'know I've been a massive fan of Reef and have felt he's been hard done by.

But I also just looked at Footywire and compared Reef with Joe Richards. Its hard not to be dismayed at the comparison - Richards lays more tackles on average, more TI50, more goal assists, more overall disposals and marks and has 3x metres gained.

Comparison: https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=5&type=A&pid1=6853&pid2=7093&fid1=S&fid2=S

Yes, they have different roles but the numbers speak for themselves, and Reef has every opportunity to be a shorter Jeremy Cameron-type player, leading right up CHF to the square and being a link, or making himself dangerous around goal. His WCE match this year was the standout, but against poor opposition.

Agree with him needing to reinvent himself for 2025 - get a tank, apply more tackle pressure, revolve through CHF and midfield and he would be a vital cog.

Reef has 17cm and 17kg on Richards so not the best comparison regarding roles and total numbers of tackles and pressure acts

… but agree that he needs to take more marks in particular.

That might come with a role on the half forward line rather than deeper forward as he has been playing…

 

[whiskeytown]

Reef training at half back might be more about versatility on game day then a new role

Having him be able to work interchangeably with Howe would add value to having reef in the line up

 

[Jen2310]

Gotta say, he looked good down back. Reads the ball really well, comes off his man to spoil. Didn't give Jordy an inch and make him inefffective.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Gotta say, he looked good down back. Reads the ball really well, comes off his man to spoil. Didn't give Jordy an inch and make him inefffective.

How was Jordy moving though?

 

[Jen2310]

How was Jordy moving though?

Given his well known groin issues, as good as to be expected.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Given his well known groin issues, as good as to be expected.

Just wondering how much Reef actually had to do to make JDG look ineffective

 

[NMBB]

Given his well known groin issues, as good as to be expected.

I wonder if some of the NY / Bali disco dance moves did the original damage?

 

[jmac70]

I wonder if some of the NY / Bali disco dance moves did the original damage?

He needs some Bali treatment to loosen up his groin.

 

[jmac70]

If you were in Reef shoes and another club offered you games every week where do you go? He'd probably be extremely frustrated that he's either sub or dropped (or both) after every game.

He either works hard and demands a spot or doesn’t.

Up to him.

 

[magpiewarrior]

For some time now people have commented on Reefs lack of tank. I would have thought that he would have done a lot of work on a highlighted deficiency. If I had AFL standard talent and my tank was identified as a weakness holding me back, I would have rectified it quick smart, it’s the simplest deficiency to rectify IMHO. Just saying, how bad does he want it?

 

[Jen2310]

For some time now people have commented on Reefs lack of tank. I would have thought that he would have done a lot of work on a highlighted deficiency. If I had AFL standard talent and my tank was identified as a weakness holding me back, I would have rectified it quick smart, it’s the simplest deficiency to rectify IMHO. Just saying, how bad does he want it?

tbf, its improved this year compared to last few years. Another pre-season he needs to keep working on it

 

[jmac70]

For some time now people have commented on Reefs lack of tank. I would have thought that he would have done a lot of work on a highlighted deficiency. If I had AFL standard talent and my tank was identified as a weakness holding me back, I would have rectified it quick smart, it’s the simplest deficiency to rectify IMHO. Just saying, how bad does he want it?

I don’t know if this fitness thing is real or not with Reef.
But we do have one of the greatest trainers of all time at the club in Pendlebury.

If a player can’t learn from him then they don’t deserve to be at the club.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I don’t know if this fitness thing is real or not with Reef.
But we do have one of the greatest trainers of all time at the club in Pendlebury.

If a player can’t learn from him then they don’t deserve to be at the club.

I thought someone mentioned he was working with Pendles during the last preseason.

 

[NMBB]

He needs some Bali treatment to loosen up his groin.

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[Jen2310]

Named in the back pocket in the vfl squad. They are doing it.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Named in the back pocket in the vfl squad. They are doing it.

Let's hope he has a career revival as a defender like Lobb () has.

 

[Horaceg]

Put all the work into reef if pies lose him now will be a bloody disaster

Ready to go in 2025

Ffs

I just want this guy to be good, I think he’s a burst type mid fielder who can go forward for periods.

 

[sr36]

For some time now people have commented on Reefs lack of tank. I would have thought that he would have done a lot of work on a highlighted deficiency. If I had AFL standard talent and my tank was identified as a weakness holding me back, I would have rectified it quick smart, it’s the simplest deficiency to rectify IMHO. Just saying, how bad does he want it?

Don't know how easy it is to get up to AFL midfield endurance for some of the powerful players. Jordy, Petracca, Raynor, Rankine weren't midfield ready at Reefs age. Raynor still isn't. The difference is they were/are outstanding forwards so could still be top AFL players before their endurance was there.