Oppo Camp Regular Non Eagles Discussion

[Cuzz09]

So its no coincidence that as soon as we lost a Rioli we havent looked like winning anything....

Maybe we should just draft a couple and please the footy gods

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[Shuestar13]

I wonder how that Port Adel Proud flog is handling himself after last night. He posts some truly awful sh*t about us at every opportunity he gets.

Hope he is suffering... bad!
Petty of me to say I know

 

[ioppolo]

Hope he is suffering... bad!
Petty of me to say I know

Summarise?

 

[Shuestar13]

Summarise?

A Port Flog who posts complete and utter s*** on the main board with a severe hatred of us. Their posts are quite embarrassing and barely coherent, but yeah. Anyway, hope they are enjoying their teams failure

 

[kane249]

Think he lives in Perth, so another one of the jaded non-WA team supporters

 

[BrotherDodge]

So its no coincidence that as soon as we lost a Rioli we havent looked like winning anything....

Maybe we should just draft a couple and please the footy gods

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Hang on, so 2016 aside, a Rioli has won a flag every year since 2013? Jesus.

 

[Cuzz09]

Hang on, so 2016 aside, a Rioli has won a flag every year since 2013? Jesus.

pretty much.

Reckon we just recruit a fat uncle Billy Rioli or something from the bush and plonk him in the pocket.

Might snag a few goals and guaranteed flag

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[Yamumluvsbigcox]

How many times have teams played twice in the same finals series?

We lost to Sydney then beat Sydney in 2006

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

The GF will be unwatchable

Yeah night granny in Brisbane slippery as **** . Perfect conditions for Richmond's ugly ass brand of footy

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Interesting, but not a huge sample size. I still think Brisbane are a better chance than Geelong to beat Richmond next week.

Not huge but that’s basically a quarter of the time in the last 20 years there’s been a rematch. I think what it tells us is that top 4 sides are generally pretty even and it takes an edge to win. Whether that be home ground, experience or motivation to turn things around, I think it says a fair bit. I may go and take a look at previous meetings between grand finalists overall and see how they compare. I have a feeling there’s a lot of reverse results, with that motivation to turn things around a big factor.
Its why I think Geelong would have a better shot. Brisbane fired their load at Richmond already and I think will get a bit of stage fright. Richmond will come in eager to atone for week 1. Brisbane won’t have that underdog Hawthorn 08 status to catch them off guard. Cats more experienced and may be due to get one back over Richmond. Remember they had Richmond on the ropes last year without Hawkins. Just my feel. Still expect Richmond to beat either side, I just think Cats may have the better shot, if any.

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Not huge but that’s basically a quarter of the time in the last 20 years there’s been a rematch. I think what it tells us is that top 4 sides are generally pretty even and it takes an edge to win. Whether that be home ground, experience or motivation to turn things around, I think it says a fair bit. I may go and take a look at previous meetings between grand finalists overall and see how they compare. I have a feeling there’s a lot of reverse results, with that motivation to turn things around a big factor.
Its why I think Geelong would have a better shot. Brisbane fired their load at Richmond already and I think will get a bit of stage fright. Richmond will come in eager to atone for week 1. Brisbane won’t have that underdog Hawthorn 08 status to catch them off guard. Cats more experienced and may be due to get one back over Richmond. Remember they had Richmond on the ropes last year without Hawkins. Just my feel. Still expect Richmond to beat either side, I just think Cats may have the better shot, if any.

So taking a look from 1990 because I can't be ****ed going back into VFL stats, result reversal seems to happen around half the time in the last 20 years. Given it has happened 4 out of 5 times when it's come through finals, a much greater percentage than happens overall, is really intriguing. Says a lot about the teams wanting to turn it around. Only two of those results featured home ground advantage and it was split 1-1. We've been in 4 of these ****ing things too, lol. I'd back Richmond to continue the trend should they come up against Brisbane (but still prefer Brisbane winning, just don't think they will, sadly).

FINAL 8 (current format)
2019: Richmond d GWS (prev Richmond d GWS)
2018: West Coast d Collingwood (prev West Coast d Collingwood in QF)
2017: Richmond d Adelaide (prev Adelaide d Richmond)
2016: Bulldogs d Sydney (prev Bulldogs d Sydney)
2015: Hawthorn d West Coast (prev West Coast d Hawthorn in QF)
2014: Hawthorn d Sydney (prev Hawthorn d Sydney)
2013: Hawthorn d Fremantle (prev Hawthorn d Fremantle)
2012: Sydney d Hawthorn (prev Hawthorn d Sydney)
2011: Geelong d Collingwood (prev Geelong d Collingwood)
2010: Collingwood d St. Kilda (prev draw, prev Collingwood d St. Kilda)
2009: Geelong d St. Kilda (prev St. Kilda d Geelong)
2008: Hawthorn d Geelong (prev Geelong d Hawthorn)
2007: Geelong d Port Adelaide (prev Port Adelaide d Geelong)
2006: West Coast d Sydney (prev Sydney d West Coast in QF)
2005: Sydney d West Coast (prev West Coast d Sydney in QF)
2004: Port Adelaide d Brisbane (prev Brisbane d Port Adelaide)
2003: Brisbane d Collingwood (prev Collingwood d Brisbane in QF)
2002: Brisbane d Collingwood (prev Collingwood d Brisbane)
2001: Brisbane d Essendon (prev Brisbane d Essendon)
2000: Essendon d Melbourne (prev Essendon d Melbourne)

The old format of final 8 had a much lower chance of rematch, given it was 1v8, 2v7, etc in the first week. So it never happened.

FINAL 8 (old format)
1999: North Melbourne d Carlton (prev North Melbourne d Carlton)
1998: Adelaide d North Melbourne (prev North Melbourne d Adelaide)
1997: Adelaide d St. Kilda (prev Adelaide d St. Kilda)
1996: North Melbourne d Sydney (prev Sydney d North Melbourne)
1995: Carlton d Geelong (prev Carlton d Geelong)
1994: West Coast d Geelong (prev West Coast d Geelong)

Final 6 and 5 did have a decent chance of sides meeting twice.

FINAL 6
1993: Essendon d Carlton (prev Carlton d Essendon in QF)
1992: West Coast d Geelong (prev West Coast d Geelong in SF)
1991: Hawthorn d West Coast (prev Hawthorn d West Coast in QF)

FINAL 5
1990: Collingwood d Essendon (prev Collingwood d Essendon in SF)


Another interesting side note, in all our Grand Final years, bar 1994, we've faced our opponent in a previous final that year. Gotta be the highest stike rate of any club, lol.

 

[ziad]

Not huge but that’s basically a quarter of the time in the last 20 years there’s been a rematch. I think what it tells us is that top 4 sides are generally pretty even and it takes an edge to win. Whether that be home ground, experience or motivation to turn things around, I think it says a fair bit. I may go and take a look at previous meetings between grand finalists overall and see how they compare. I have a feeling there’s a lot of reverse results, with that motivation to turn things around a big factor.
Its why I think Geelong would have a better shot. Brisbane fired their load at Richmond already and I think will get a bit of stage fright. Richmond will come in eager to atone for week 1. Brisbane won’t have that underdog Hawthorn 08 status to catch them off guard. Cats more experienced and may be due to get one back over Richmond. Remember they had Richmond on the ropes last year without Hawkins. Just my feel. Still expect Richmond to beat either side, I just think Cats may have the better shot, if any.

Richmond look like a norther Power - big names that choke but good kids.

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

That Ablett GOAT banner in the crowd is pure nightmare fuel

 

[LewyBroome]

Fagan is very likeable.

 

[EagleShore]

Hawkins Danger and Selwood always get oil rubbed on their arms.

Obviously it is legal. It must be annoying as an opponent. Why doesn't every player choose to have oil put on their arms?

 

[Biggie]

Have a bad feeling that Geelong will get up this evening

 

[Biggie]

 

[Hai_Newman]

Robdog back on will help.

 

[Mulldogg]

Geelong looking ominous.

 

[Shuestar13]

Alarm bells sounding for Brisbane early...

 

[FKASC]

Brisbane’s just not that good. Their forwardline stinks.

Gonna be Richmond def Geelong in the grandy I’m afraid

 

[Mulldogg]

That was the right call. Finally got the handball away on the fourth attempt whilst being tackled.

 

[Forward Press]

Brisbane’s just not that good. Their forwardline stinks.

Gonna be Richmond def Geelong in the grandy I’m afraid

Funnily enough I think Geelong has a better chance than Brisbane against Richmond in the GF.

 

[Shuestar13]

Brisbane’s just not that good. Their forwardline stinks.

Gonna be Richmond def Geelong in the grandy I’m afraid

I agree with you that they’re not that good. Same as Port. I was very surprised at the many people “certain” of a Port v Brisbane grand final.

 

[Monocle]

Bit of a repeat of last nights first quarter Brisbane hanging in there but the worry is The Dick Eaters look like they have the game on their terms.

Sh1t kicking by TDE has avoided a blow out start to the game.

Brisbane's forward line is not functioning tonight and if thats not addressed and quickly, this game is going to be a blow out.