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I'm pretty sure we(Dodoro) had Bont at 1.
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I'm pretty sure we(Dodoro) had Bont at 1.
It is not hard for them to say they would take Bont, because it doesn't devalue Merrett and even Essendon supporters en masse (you included) concede Bont as the best from the draft.
Doesn't change the fact that the assessment of Merrett over Cripps by the Essendon list management is of as little value as the assessment of Cripps over Merrett, which would undoubtedly be the response of Carlton list management.
Beliefs aren't actually incorrect as they are beliefs. Facts can be incorrect.
Beliefs are simply misguided.
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No actually, it is a word straight from the mouth of people that make those decisions.
You said that you 'guarantee' Essendon would take Cripps in a hypothetical redraft. The only people that can actually make that call say they wouldn't do that.
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Apologies, was not you that said they guaranteed it.
You obviously have mistaken me. I have made no comment on the relative merits of what Essendon would do and I certainly have not offered a guarantee of anything.
If you are going to call my posts garbage at least use the correct information.
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Has he? Why?
Because I find the idea of swapping an average, to below average KPF for a near-elite midfielder who is 21 years old?
The absurdity of that idea could only be disregarded on BigFooty.
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Yeah not offering comment on the validity of it, but it does suggest Essendon rated Bont at #1.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
Melbourne also had him at the top of their board but preferred the 2 for 1 deal.
Bontempelli, then daylight.
You can then make an argument for any order of Cripps, Kelly, Merrett and Boyd to round out the top five, heavily dependent on needs: ball-winning, run and carry, a mix, or a tall. Boyd's clearly shown the least of the four and there's no certainty he'll catch up, but positional scarcity and expected development time push him up there, and the Dogs obviously prefer him given their midfield stocks and dearth of tall forwards. If Hogan's considered part of the 2013 pool he's in there too, with the evident commitment issues bringing him back to the pack.
After that it gets tricky. Matt Crouch is the next-best midfielder, and Lobb, Brown and McCarthy (on 2015 form, we'll see how he returns) have to be considered for the same reason Boyd gets a bump. Beyond that I don't think anyone has the proven form to clearly stake a top-10 claim.
You can then make an argument for any order of Cripps, Kelly, Merrett and Boyd to round out the top five, heavily dependent on needs: ball-winning, run and carry, a mix, or a tall. Boyd's clearly shown the least of the four and there's no certainty he'll catch up, but positional scarcity and expected development time push him up there, and the Dogs obviously prefer him given their midfield stocks and dearth of tall forwards. If Hogan's considered part of the 2013 pool he's in there too, with the evident commitment issues bringing him back to the pack.
After that it gets tricky. Matt Crouch is the next-best midfielder, and Lobb, Brown and McCarthy (on 2015 form, we'll see how he returns) have to be considered for the same reason Boyd gets a bump. Beyond that I don't think anyone has the proven form to clearly stake a top-10 claim.
Not his height, but what he can do with his height. His Grand Final showcased what his potential is based on - height, contested marking, versatility, thumping kick for goal etc. Of course, one swallow does not a summer make and he has a long way to go in fulfilling his potential, but what 21yo KPF doesn't? I think you're really downplaying him here.
You say no club would take him ahead of Merrett, I don't agree. I think the only player in this draft who fits such a statement is Bont. A club laden with midfield depth but lacking KPF's would likely chance their shot at Boyd over Merrett. Whether that would be a good decision or not won't be known for a few years yet. It's like bending over to pick up a rolling cricket ball; it's not all about where the ball is, but where its going to be by the time you get your hand down there. Definitely if the players' ceilings have already been reached, then it's a no-brainer to go with Merrett. I doubt though that either player has levelled out just yet.
This post is far to logical.
Yeah that's true. Although it would be farcical to suggest Boyd has been the better player to this point, Trent Cotchin was looking like a very similar player to Zach Merrett at the same age, and he hasn't necessarily taken his game to lofty heights. He did have a fantastic three year window though.
How this thread has survived the last handful of pages is beyond me. It's damn hilarious reading it though.
I'm sure I've seen Moons give Zac a bumtap.
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