Rumour Rhyce Shaw in Hospital, won’t coach again: NO Trolling, cheap shots, or jokes will be Tolerated

[Wosh]

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[tazaa]

From the North Melbourne board:

Heads up all - as per above any posts speculating on the wellbeing of club staff will be deleted.

While understanding the posts aren't necessarily intended to offend or pry this is a topic best left to official statement if things turn out that way.

As above please contact us if any concerns.

Thanks,
Flawed Genius The Filth Wizard@Twinkletoes King Corey

I know its the rumour board but its sad that a poster of ours had to start this thread when our own board is choosing to be respectful. And this was news as of Monday
spookymooky read the room mate

 

[north_lad]

Really hoping it's not true

 

[Atomboy]

I know its the rumour board but its sad that a poster of ours had to start this thread when our own board is choosing to be respectful. And this was news as of Monday
spookymooky read the room mate

He has read the room perfectly - this is the “Rumours” board and not the North board is it not ?!

 

[ep2018]

Hoping for the best for Shaw. As someone who also spent a stint in hospital for mental issues I understand completely if he has to step away from the club.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

Speculating and guessing doesn’t help anyone. If true, I’ll just wish him all the best.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

In fairness to OP, I think all of us reading this thread are curious to know if there is any substance to the rumour.

There have been occasions in the past where news has broken here on bigfooty.

There's nothing malicious in wanting to know more, it is human nature.

Even if we've never met the person in question, we do watch his press conferences, we discuss his coaching tactics, and so on.

At the time of first reading this thread I hadn't seen the commotion on the North board.

I've now gone from thinking 'this is another bullshit rumour on the rumour board' to 'there may be something to this'.

I'll check back in tomorrow, and hopefully see compelling evidence the rumour is baseless.

 

[B4Bear]

Just copped some large news from a reliable source that Rhyce Shaw is currently battling mental health issues and is in hospital. He’ll retire immediately and John Blakey will takeover as senior coach for 2021

Hope this ain’t true and If so, wish him nothing but the best with his recovery

What a furging champion you are.

Bet your name is Damien Barrett.

 

[B4Bear]

In fairness to OP, I think all of us reading this thread are curious to know if there is any substance to the rumour.

There have been occasions in the past where news has broken here on bigfooty.

There's nothing malicious in wanting to know more, it is human nature.

Even if we've never met the person in question, we do watch his press conferences, we discuss his coaching tactics, and so on.

At the time of first reading this thread I hadn't seen the commotion on the North board.

I've now gone from thinking 'this is another bullshit rumour on the rumour board' to 'there may be something to this'.

I'll check back in tomorrow, and hopefully see compelling evidence the rumour is baseless.

Quell surprise that you, a turd of a supporter condone this and the OP.

No wonder you don’t post in the club board.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Quell surprise that you, a turd of a supporter condone this and the OP.

No wonder you don’t post in the club board.

I don't post on the North board because I was banned, for a personal conflict with a mod from literally a decade ago.

They still haven't let it go. Maybe they never will.

As for 'turd of a supporter', I don't know you and you don't know me. So wtf are you going on about?

How about you try to act like a grownup and control your emotions.

I haven't said anything disrespectful about Shaw or North in this thread.

 

[Del165198]

Coaching is a tough gig. I wouldn't be able to do it. Media pressure is intense. You hate to see it go down this road if true, but not surprising.

Blokes like primus and mark neeld got absolutely destroyed in the public eye..

 

[north_lad]

Coaching is a tough gig. I wouldn't be able to do it. Media pressure is intense. You hate to see it go down this road if true, but not surprising.

Blokes like primus and mark neeld got absolutely destroyed in the public eye..

Personally I obsess over my mistakes for years after the fact. Imagine having your job scrutinised by not only the whole country but umpteen people in the media who could never do it themselves.

 

[Starburns_]

He has read the room perfectly - this is the “Rumours” board and not the North board is it not ?!

This. As an unconfirmed rumour this is exactly the place for it. If the North board don't want a thread there that is entirely their choice, as long as the trolling and negativity are kept out of this thread though, there's no reason to remove it.

 

[StCicatriz]

Geeze rumours on mental health now...

No winners here. If true really feel for shaw. If false people have used mental health as some kind of perceived weakness.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Close and delete this. Disgusting to be allowing propagation of this. As some have said afl media isn't reporting it. Most here think afl media is scum. Well they're better than those allowing this thread to stay open/ those that think the threads 'fair game'.

 

[Devington]

Might be true, but personally I don't buy it. It's been floating around for a few days and if it was true people in the media would be well aware. And while I wouldn't expect them to air it, I would expect them to stop putting the boot into the club quite so much, purely out of self preservation. Yet we still have the regular pundits going in hard on the administration, questioning both the club's future and what happened this year. Would be an awful look for a few of them if it came out they knew Shaw had very serious mental health issues, that assumedly didn't just develop instantaneously, and yet they were publicly lashing him and the rest of the club. Damian Barrett was cracking the shits at north fans today in a live chat and talking about relocation ffs, and while I do think he's a petty and vindictive gutter rat I also think he'd be pulling his head in if the rumour was true.

 

[WillHayward]

We arent babies... We can differentiate between rumour and fact.
Nothing wrong with thread so far.
Most posters being sensible.

 

[WillHayward]

Might be true, but personally I don't buy it. It's been floating around for a few days and if it was true people in the media would be well aware. And while I wouldn't expect them to air it, I would expect them to stop putting the boot into the club quite so much, purely out of self preservation. Yet we still have the regular pundits going in hard on the administration, questioning both the club's future and what happened this year. Would be an awful look for a few of them if it came out they knew Shaw had very serious mental health issues, that assumedly didn't just develop instantaneously, and yet they were publicly lashing him and the rest of the club. Damian Barrett was cracking the shits at north fans today in a live chat and talking about relocation ffs, and while I do think he's a petty and vindictive gutter rat I also think he'd be pulling his head in if the rumour was true.

Yep.
Enough afl Journos and hanger ons that somebody would have reported it as a scoop.

99% chance untrue.

 

[Wosh]

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[Wosh]

Coaching is a tough gig. I wouldn't be able to do it. Media pressure is intense. You hate to see it go down this road if true, but not surprising.

Blokes like primus and mark neeld got absolutely destroyed in the public eye..

This, it is an incredibly tough gig and the pressure and scrutiny is relentless. Never mind all the stuff behind the scenes coaches deal with that we never see or hear about. And then if your team has a bad run it just compounds it all, as you try to deal with your own life and family as well.
I really hope Shaw is ok, a job is a job, but your health and family must always come first.

 

[Ok Boomer]

Not buying it at the moment, can't believe at least one of the grubby journos wouldn't have run it by now.

 

[Blubagger71]

This has whiskers on it for mine. Nothing to gain from even talking about it.
If it was legit, North would get in front of it or a media junkie would break it.
Leave Rhys alone to enjoy the few moments of rest he gets before the silly season kicks in. Peace out.

 

[jwikked]

Not buying it at the moment, can't believe at least one of the grubby journos wouldn't have run it by now.

Contrary to popular belief, the AFL media don't run with every single story they hear about. Whether this is true or not, I don't know, but it wouldn't be a surprise if the AFL media aren't running with it to protect his privacy.
Bit like the Laidley cross dressing stuff. The media knew about it for years, but didn't print it.

 

[My Tilly]

Coaching is a tough gig. I wouldn't be able to do it. Media pressure is intense. You hate to see it go down this road if true, but not surprising.

Blokes like primus and mark neeld got absolutely destroyed in the public eye..

That's why they get paid the big bucks.

 

[HairyO]

Just copped some large news from a reliable source that Rhyce Shaw is currently battling mental health issues and is in hospital. He’ll retire immediately and John Blakey will takeover as senior coach for 2021

Hope this ain’t true and If so, wish him nothing but the best with his recovery

Was the reliable source someone who posted the rumour on the NM board?

Or someone who actually knows him?

 

[north_lad]

Yep.
Enough afl Journos and hanger ons that somebody would have reported it as a scoop.

99% chance untrue.

Damo would have run with it and blamed Archer and Buckley by now, surely.