RICHMOND. Board/Coach/Players..whatever

[SaveFeriss]

Put it all here.

Just heard Greg Miller on MMM, and unless i heard wrong, it was put to him that this would be one of the Tiges darkest days. To which he replied.. "I dont know the clubs history as well as other clubs, but yeah..."

And our President is an Essendon supporter.

Will Frawley last the weekend?

 

[MrCatMan]

Originally posted by SaveFeriss
Put it all here.

Just heard Greg Miller on MMM, and unless i heard wrong, it was put to him that this would be one of the Tiges darkest days. To which he replied.. "I dont know the clubs history as well as other clubs, but yeah..."

And our President is an Essendon supporter.

Will Frawley last the weekend?

He'll be lucky to make it to the weekend....still an hour to go

 

[mellowyellow]

Originally posted by SaveFeriss


Will Frawley last the weekend?

Yes

 

[Altum Volantes]

You know, time and time again, it's Richmond's reaction to sack the coach when things get tough. In under 10 years, they've had messy sackings of Northey (why on earth?), Walls, Geishan and now maybe Frawley - Where has it got them? Despite a couple of finals appearances this club has been treading water for over 20 years!

Can the players be held responsible here?

Who looks like they don't want to play for Richmond footy club?

 

[Cuneyt]

what can be done...im confused and be nice
what can be done...to fix this...

 

[Dan26]

Frawley has had five years, so, it's not as if Richmond would be reacting immediately to poor form, by simply sacking the coach. Five years is a long time in coaching terms. They have had 7-15 seasons in both 2002 and 2003. If they were reacting to a bad loss by sacking the coach, it would have been done in 2002.

There have been deeper problems than the coach at Richmond. Their culture has completely changed, from the powerhouse succesful, brutal club of the 60's 70 and early 80's. It all began after the 1982 Grand Final loss, when they lost several players to Collingwood and they spent much of the next 4 years trying to outbid Collingwood to poach their players. Both clubs went nowhere. They seemed more focussed on revenge than actually winning a premiership, and that particular mindset seems to have infested itself 20 years later. The club nearly folded in the late 80's, and hasn't recovered.

They are a club that seems totally focussed on cherishing it's history rather than creating it's own, and they have lost the focus of what made them great. If only they held on to win in the second half of the '82 Grand Final. That could have changed everything.

 

[doctormeow]

That performance was unacceptable.

I know Spud is a great guy, and he has the spirit of the club and wears his heart on his sleeve, but something has to give. Something big.

Whether he deserves it or not, It seems as though he has to go to really put a period on this slide. He might have the right ideas, he might have the plans to get us going but the players do not seem to have their heart in our club. They aren't playing for the coach. They are not playing for the jumper and it's Danny that has to put this into the players. He of all people should be knowing this. He wore his St Kilda jumper every single day he was a player and his heart was red white and black. Our players need to be bleeding Tiger blood and knowing what it means to me putting on a yellow and black guernsey. He can't seem to let the players know that they should be hurting in a loss.

If it's not the coach then it has to be the players. a MASSIVE axing week. Cut all those soft players that have been so insipid in the last few weeks. Any supporter understands how much a loss hurts and this loss was one of those.

For all of our sakes Danny. NAME NAMES! Who was the players that let us down. We all want to know whats happening and what your going to do about it to beat Hawthorn next week. Right now all the supporters are going to live this week out on are Give us a go, stick with us in thick and thin. Danny saying that he'll look at tapes on monday and sort out where it went wrong just doesn't cut it for me.

A big slump needs a big full stop. The Supporters need to know and feel that something is being done because nothing has been done fo so long.

 

[SaveFeriss]

Originally posted by Black JuJu
You know, time and time again, it's Richmond's reaction to sack the coach when things get tough. In under 10 years, they've had messy sackings of Northey (why on earth?), Walls, Geishan and now maybe Frawley - Where has it got them? Despite a couple of finals appearances this club has been treading water for over 20 years!

Can the players be held responsible here?

Who looks like they don't want to play for Richmond footy club?

Actually we've been far more stable in the period you mention, than the 15 years before that.

origionally posted by dan26
They are a club that, seems totally focussed on cherishing it's history rtaher than creating it's own, and they have lost the focus of what made them great. If only they held on to win in the second half of the '82 Grand Final. That could have changed everything.

I agree, never really noticed it till you said that but yes, a club living on long past deeds.

Wonder how much they'd get for Punt Rd..... I wonder if Clinton would know...


Nah now im just being facetious

 

[Captain Sensible]

Is Casey fair dinkum an Essendon supporter?

 

[Tas]

Originally posted by Cuneyt
what can be done...im confused and be nice
what can be done...to fix this...

I just think Frawley needs to put a line through the gameplan and say look, you are professional footballers, you live and die on the reputation you have as a footballer and for some players their careers are on the line this year.

Are you going to give up just because you are playing badly?

First thing 'I' would do if I was Frawley is rest up Coughlan and anyone else who is obviously playing injured and bring in someone who is 100% fit. Doesn't matter if its a first gamer.

Then I would throw away the fancy game plan and say okay, for next weeks game I am only expecting one thing and that is a vicious attack on the ball and the man (in a fair manner). Teams normally get 40-50 tackles, I would put it on the players to get 70 tackles next week. They will conceed alot of free kicks but you just can't go on losing without having that self-respect. He would want to see 5+ tackles from each player, smothers, chases and pressure on the opposition.

It doesn't matter if you lose as long as the effort is there and if Richmond just attacked and pushed and pushed and pushed the ball forwards and every player is on notice to run, to chase and to tackle then you may lose but the opposition is going to have to work hard to win and will feel the bruises the following day. Thats when you start to earn respect, not by a soft win.

Once you have that work ethic you can then build on that and start to refine that attack with strategy and tactics. When you play without any confidence whatsoever then you just have to focus on the basics and that is the attack on the ball.

Richmond are trying to play a level of football they can not sustain at the moment.

 

[Paul Barto]

Bring back KB!

 

[afc9798]

start by getting rid of Campbell. This guy is undoubtably the least inspirational captain the comp. has ever had. Not only is he a receiver, but he goes missing whenever the heat is on. Richmond still has some good young players, but the leadership group is sadly lacking and needs to be removed. I'm sure fRawley didn't coach the guys to play like that, so unless they start to listen, he'll also need to be a casualty. All that said, Adelaide supporters need to remember that we are still only 1-4 and have a tough 5 weeks coming up.

 

[SaveFeriss]

Also noted that at the end of the MMM broadcast as they are saying their goofbyes and advertising their other crud, the background music was 'Time is Running Out' by Muse.

Even on the coast I noticed today and last night that all news breaks on CH 9, even those 60 second ones, highlighted the tension placed on the coaches careers and implying the result of the game may perhaps dictate one caoches immediate future.

If our very own supporters dont ensure it, the media will, and 2 more losses will break the tigers(spuds) back.

 

[wagstaff]

Originally posted by localyokel
Is Casey fair dinkum an Essendon supporter?

First I heard of it was when Caro was interviewing him on 3AW last weekend and inferred that he hadn't been a passionate Richmond supporter until he became President.... and Casey didn't exactly deny it.

I don't know where all the news about him being an Essendon supporter came from.

 

[Pedro]

Originally posted by Paul Barto
Bring back KB!

Fat chance!

 

[Paul Barto]

Originally posted by afc9798
This guy is undoubtably the least inspirational captain the comp.

Shane Crawford has a mortgage on that title.

 

[SaveFeriss]

Regarding Casey being an Essendon supporter.

My information is weak at best. It came from a poster on this site, and I cant remember who, but Im sure they said he used to be a coitorie member at EFC.

 

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by yob
Let's look at it like this - realistically, what would Blight do in his first week at the club.

Ring Ken Hinkley, get him to become assistant and play golf with him instead of coming to training.

Christ things are bad enough at Tigerland without getting Blight to completely sink the club.

 

[Paul Barto]

Originally posted by yob
Let's look at it like this - realistically, what would Blight do in his first week at the club.

Proclaim to supporters that this will be "the ride of your life"