Adem Yze - Richmond coach

[kranky al]

Mr Blight.
Mr Matthews
Mr Barrassi
Mr Parkin
Mr Sheedy
Mr Jezza

All bum players.

Meh viccos that wouldn’t have lasted on a fast wa deck

 

[SA HAWK]

Big job that list is cooked.

 

[Lsta062]

Big job that list is cooked.

And ready to serve in 2024 or?

 

[Osho]

Meh viccos that wouldn’t have lasted on a fast wa deck

Mr Blight, a Vico?
Pethaps he's a dual citizen these days?

 

[WillHayward]

My main memory of Yze is him missing a goal from around 1 metre out. I may be misremembering that too.

Playing ability has little correlation to coaching ability.

I actually remember him as a gun player.
Was pretty decent.
Got injured a lot iirc.

 

[WillHayward]

Mr Blight.
Mr Matthews
Mr Barrassi
Mr Parkin
Mr Sheedy
Mr Jezza

All bum players.

Sheedy?

 

[Osho]

Sheedy?

Fantastic player.
Especially in finals.
And especially in grand finals.

It's an IQ test for footy fans of a certain age. Ask them, was Sheedy any good?

 

[Kappa]

Big job that list is cooked.

He’s got a 2 year honeymoon period. Pressure to perform won’t come till 2026.

 

[Pancakes]

Seven letters has to be shortest senior coach name in history? Four syllables impressive though.

As far as i can tell it is equal with Eric Guy for the Saints who coached for six games in the 70s, but he was never the official senior coach, just filled in when Allan Jeans was sick.

 

[fusion]

I am pretty sure the of the 5 or so players to win a flag as a coach without winning one as a player (since the AFL 1990), Clarko is the only one with multiple flags

Denis Pagan?

Good selection in Yze... could seriously play, and seemed to always play well against my team.

I think the tigers have handled this coaching change over really well. A club that's got all the field stuff right. Contrast that to essendon (and North) last year.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

I actually remember him as a gun player.
Was pretty decent.
Got injured a lot iirc.

Yeah, he was a walking injury. Only managed to limp his way to 226 consecutive games at one point.

 

[Todman]

Another Clarkson pupil.

 

[Dystraction]

Has never sounded inspiring or interesting to me. Had heard he was shifted sideways at Hawthorn and when he left for the Dees that the club "wasn't exactly upset to lose him".

Seems to have been a popular 'next to be a senior coach' by association(Clarkson, Goodwin).

Won't be at all surprised if this appointment is a fail.

Doubt you know anything of use within your club. Are you sure you're not working for the Murdoch press?

In January 2012, Yze joined Hawthorn as a part-time assistant coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson.

On 14 November 2014, Yze replaced Luke Beveridge as Hawthorn's backline coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson, after previously working with the Hawks as a specialist goal-kicking and development coach for the past three seasons. Yze was credited for playing a key role in harnessing the Hawthorn players' elite kicking skills as they developed into the AFL's deadliest team in front of goal over the past two seasons, with the team's accuracy increasing from 48 percent to 57.1 percent during his tenure as goalkicking coach.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Doubt you know anything of use within your club. Are you sure you're not working for the Murdoch press?

In January 2012, Yze joined Hawthorn as a part-time assistant coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson.

On 14 November 2014, Yze replaced Luke Beveridge as Hawthorn's backline coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson, after previously working with the Hawks as a specialist goal-kicking and development coach for the past three seasons. Yze was credited for playing a key role in harnessing the Hawthorn players' elite kicking skills as they developed into the AFL's deadliest team in front of goal over the past two seasons, with the team's accuracy increasing from 48 percent to 57.1 percent during his tenure as goalkicking coach.

Shhhh

 

[MightyHawks]

Has never sounded inspiring or interesting to me. Had heard he was shifted sideways at Hawthorn and when he left for the Dees that the club "wasn't exactly upset to lose him".

Seems to have been a popular 'next to be a senior coach' by association(Clarkson, Goodwin).

Won't be at all surprised if this appointment is a fail.

I never thought he was particularly interested in the meeting the supporters/corporates/sponsors side of things either.

Hopefully he's improved there too as it's an important part of a senior coaches role too being the face of the club

 

[Dystraction]

More of Adem's assistant coaching experience:

After eight seasons as a Hawthorn assistant coach, Yze was appointed assistant coach at Melbourne under senior coach Simon Goodwin for the 2021 season. The Demons would have an outstanding 2021 season in which they finished on top of the ladder and were a dominant team throughout the regular season and the finals series which was capped off with a commanding victory over the Western Bulldogs to win the 2021 premiership. Yze was a key architect in creating their league-best defence that was a key factor in their historic premiership win.

 

[nobbyiscool]

So for the Richmond fans, what was wrong with McQualter? What set Yze apart? Was it a breadth of experience that McQualter didn't have due to showing loyalty to Richmond themselves?

 

[melbun]

I wish Yze all the best. I hope he does the same to Richmond's midfield delivery as he did to Melbourne's.

 

[Freomaniac]

True, and I strongly believe that this is very important to remember as too often only the best AFL players even get a shot to become assistant coaches which is really stupid since playing ability and coaching ability are two very different things. The best potential coach in AFL history could be some player who only played 3 games in his career, can't kick to save his life and is outmuscled by everyone but because they were not a good player they will never get a shot at being an assistant coach even if they would be very very good at it.

Soccer does it better as most of their top coaches were average players at best. The AFL needs to do better at identifying coaching talent beyond "well they were a very good player, they will be a good coach"

Soccer is a totally different beast though.

Plus there are lots of coaching jobs in soccer as there are many European leagues. So it's not common for 50-60 year Olds to have 20-30 years of experience managing a few clubs.

Adem Yze seems like a good appointment.

He should last a while at Richmond even though Richmond are past their 2017-20 peak

 

[Simche]

So for the Richmond fans, what was wrong with McQualter? What set Yze apart? Was it a breadth of experience that McQualter didn't have due to showing loyalty to Richmond themselves?

What probably got him over the line was that he was a new voice with fresh ideas, which I think a fair section of supporters think we probably need also.

Mini was viewed as a continuation of the status quo given his support staff were the same as under Hardwick and we played the exact same way.

While I recognise it’s difficult to implement a new game plan mid season I think the view is that we’re no longer on the cutting edge like we were 17-20 and accordingly change is needed.

 

[Lsta062]

So for the Richmond fans, what was wrong with McQualter? What set Yze apart? Was it a breadth of experience that McQualter didn't have due to showing loyalty to Richmond themselves?

For me, there was a question about how tough he is as a coach. He was too conservative with our selection and waited until our season was done before making the right selection calls. He should have made some of those calls just after the bye, but it involved dropping senior players who were out of form. So, it looks like he knew what calls he needed to make, but perhaps he didn't have the courage to do it. Hardwick kinda has the same issues with this btw, but McQualter's conservatism was definitely worse. I get it, he probably wanted to play it safe to get the job, but that made him look more vanilla than Yze.

Yze doesn't seem like a guy that'll struggle to do that. Of course, there is a balance here because you wouldn't want your club to be too extreme with dropping players (e.g., Beveridge with Bulldogs in the early days IMO), so we'll wait to see how he approaches team selections.

 

[dean33]

Big job that list is cooked.

As cooked as the pies after 2021 season? Or giants last year?
Amazing what a new coach can do with a team.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Good appointment.

How do Tiger fans see Dimma now retrospectively? I have little respect for the move he made this year.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

He had a huge impact at Hawthorn. We went from being one of the worst teams by foot to one of the best resulting in the threepeat. Yze was a big part of that. I reckon he'll be a great appointment.

 

[SplintWhisky]

So for the Richmond fans, what was wrong with McQualter? What set Yze apart? Was it a breadth of experience that McQualter didn't have due to showing loyalty to Richmond themselves?

Lack of performance from the side against top 8 teams and the fact that he would be seen as "much the same".