Riewoldt V Tredrea

Snickers · Nov 10, 2004

Riewoldt, he has more influence on a game

portentous · Nov 10, 2004

Tredders is invaluable to our side. Not just for his football ability, but also his leadership skills and media "savvy". Having said that, I guess having Reiwoldt in the side too would be ok.

Brian Damage · Nov 10, 2004

I used to laugh at tredrea - 15 marks & 1.5(couldn't be relied on to kick from 2m out directly in front of goal) a game but he has improved his kicking for goal out of sight and coupled with the fact that he sets up plenty, you'd have to say that he is the top forward in the comp and still has many very good years ahead of him.

Falchoon · Nov 10, 2004

Porthos said:
Cool, who were they against?

Teams that double and triple teamed him without Gehrig, one good team one bad.

Porthos said:
Wasn't that Melbourne match the one quoted earlier in this thread as showing why Riewoldt would be an amazing full forward?

Dunno, it was 3 years ago

SaintsSupporter · Nov 10, 2004

In my own unbiased view I'd say Riewoldt, although I considered Tredrea honestly.

ClintEastwood · Nov 10, 2004

Snickers said:
Riewoldt, he has more influence on a game

You're obviously not talking about grand finals.

Sid · Nov 10, 2004

SaintsSupporter said:
In my own unbiased view I'd say Riewoldt, although I considered Tredrea honestly.

does anyone else reckon that sounds a bit dodgy?

latrell · Nov 10, 2004

Riewoldt because of his age, versatility, endurance etc is the most marketable player in the AFL.

However i believe tredrea is the better player because he plays the most important position on the ground as the key target up forward.

Riewoldt on the other hand plays as a glorified flanker while gehrig plays as the target.

JeffDunne · Nov 10, 2004

latrell said:
Riewoldt on the other hand plays as a glorified flanker while gehrig plays as the target.

"Glorified flanker" ????

Eago77 · Nov 10, 2004

Hodge_is_God said:
The arrogant blond one.

He showed in the Melbourne game that he'd be a fair chance of kicking 100 goals a season without Gehrig there. As it is, he gets through a mountain of work up the ground and still kills the opposition on the scoreboard.

Riewoldt now, and any time for the remainder of their careers.

BTW that Tredrea 4 time AA thing is a cop out - the best CHF's in the game since the nineties - Carey, Grant, etc were all pretty much past their best by 2001. Gun player, top 10 in the league, but i still reckon he's been over-rated in the course of his career due to the lack of other dominant CHF's in the game in the meantime.

Tredders is twice the player Grant ever was so please dont mention him in the same breath as Carey & Tredrea. Apparently Brown is the best player ever, yet Tredrea still has won the past 4 AA at CHF. Dont under-estimate or try and play down 4 AA CHF "titles", because ther is no competition, Tredrea, Brown & now Riewoldt are three very very good CHF, so the competion is pretty hot.

For mine Tredrea, but i'd also take Nick in a second, great player, may end up better than Tredders, lets hope not.

Eago77 · Nov 10, 2004

HTB Saints said:
I think they should ask the players of the AFL.

Wait a minute, they already did.

http://saints.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=172835

I reckon we should probably ask the coaches, i reckon they're more quailified than the players, a lot of players dont have the brains to tie their own shoelaces.

Oh hang on they did, i believe young Warren was voted Best player by the coaches.

scotty13 · Nov 10, 2004

Eago77 said:
I reckon we should probably ask the coaches, i reckon they're more quailified than the players, a lot of players dont have the brains to tie their own shoelaces.

Oh hang on they did, i believe young Warren was voted Best player by the coaches.

Yep. coaches would have more of an idea than the players would. Tredrea by a mile atm, but if Reivoldt has another couple good seasons he will make ground on Tredders.

Scotty

The Fireman · Nov 10, 2004

Eago77 said:
I reckon we should probably ask the coaches, i reckon they're more quailified than the players, a lot of players dont have the brains to tie their own shoelaces.

Oh hang on they did, i believe young Warren was voted Best player by the coaches.

can't win, the blokes that play on Roo say he is the best but that's not good enough for some

Thrawn · Nov 10, 2004

Now: Tredrea

For the future: Riewoldt

scotty13 · Nov 10, 2004

The Fireman said:
can't win, the blokes that play on Roo say he is the best but that's not good enough for some

yeah but the players wont all know who is the best because how many times has Lloyd or Fevola or Spider played on Reivoldt or Tredrea? How can they then say they are the best when they have never played on them. The coaches on the other hand, though never playing on these players still have a better idea because they know who is the hardest player to match up on, and get to see the whole game not just when the ball is in one part of the ground.

Scotty

Ten Ton Hammer · Nov 10, 2004

IMO tredrea is the best player in the comp!

The Fireman · Nov 10, 2004

scotty13 said:
yeah but the players wont all know who is the best because how many times has Lloyd or Fevola or Spider played on Reivoldt or Tredrea? How can they then say they are the best when they have never played on them. The coaches on the other hand, though never playing on these players still have a better idea because they know who is the hardest player to match up on, and get to see the whole game not just when the ball is in one part of the ground.

Scotty

I would still prefer a vote from a bloke that played on me rather than the coach.
and the players no matter where they are on the ground apreciate another player. This vote has the maximum respect attached to it.

scotty13 · Nov 10, 2004

The Fireman said:
I would still prefer a vote from a bloke that played on me rather than the coach.
and the players no matter where they are on the ground apreciate another player. This vote has the maximum respect attached to it.

What and the coaches one doesnt??? i would judge both about equal in all honesty but for teh sake of this argument the coaches one is worth more

as the coaches choose the teams and if all bar a couple coaches rate Tredrea higher than every other player in the AFL for last season it has to mean something as they are the choosers of the team. If Reivoldt was better he would have got AA CHF and the coaches and players awards. He didnt.
Can you imagine what it would be like aswell if PAFC had a great FF as well as the best CHF in the comp. Im sure Tredrea would become even better. It will be interesting to see how Reivoldt plays once Gehrig is gone and opposition teams can focus on him alone and not a goal kicking machine.

Scotty

Falchoon · Nov 10, 2004

Pred said:
You're obviously not talking about grand finals.

How the Port tune has changed.

Tredrea hadn't even played in a final at the same career stage.

Portia · Nov 10, 2004

Kangaroos in 1999, Falchoon.

Falchoon · Nov 10, 2004

Porthos said:
Kangaroos in 1999, Falchoon.

whoops missed it.

But then apparently so did Tredrea

Portia · Nov 10, 2004

Yeah, just about. It was a Port vs Kangaroos game - what more can be said?

Should also point out that in 1999 he spent the whole year as our sole tall forward target apart from the resting ruck, due to trading Cummings in the 1998 offseason. He did bloody well.

Riewoldt is clearly enjoying much better support than Warren did at the same age.

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