Preview RND 18 - Carlton v Collingwood Sun 18th July 3.20PM @ MCG - Team Post #401
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If we can kick strait...
Win by 7 goals...
Win by 7 goals...
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Need to wait for the Thursday 4pm injury update 
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Isn’t this game on Sunday?
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We’ve played injured, underdone and out of form players all year, while not rewarding games too some players that certainly are more deserving...
Jones if good is a certainty... Fisher as well...
There’s plenty that shouldn’t be playing for a few reasons but they won’t be dropped or rested...
There’s some youngsters that should have be given some games ahead of others which hasn’t and most likely still won’t happen...
Team selection integrity has been a crock of shit all year...
Jones if good is a certainty... Fisher as well...
There’s plenty that shouldn’t be playing for a few reasons but they won’t be dropped or rested...
There’s some youngsters that should have be given some games ahead of others which hasn’t and most likely still won’t happen...
Team selection integrity has been a crock of shit all year...
Need to wait for the Thursday 4pm injury update
At this point, I’m not taking anyone’s word on the starting lineup until 20 mins into the 3rd quarter.
Lock in Murphy to get a jog even if he is 70%
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This year is cooked
Out- Curnow, Newnes, Setterfield,
In- Fisher, Jones, Casboult
if fit
If not
At least start blooding some youngsters…
Out- Curnow, Newnes, Setterfield,
In- Fisher, Jones, Casboult
if fit
If not
At least start blooding some youngsters…
INS:
Jones - no brainer...
Fisher - no brainer...
Honey - speed pressure tackling goalkicker...
Ramsay - accumulator, good left-peg...
Cottrell - good endurance and speed, has a crack...
OUTS:
Cripps - injured, needs to rest the ankle...
Fogarty- provides pressure but not much else atm...
Newnes - Ok backup, not the future
Setterfield - abysmal...
Martin - injured, hobbling, needs a spell, not right...
Curnow - not having much of an impact, positional...
Won’t even remotely happen but that’s the way I’d go...
Jones - no brainer...
Fisher - no brainer...
Honey - speed pressure tackling goalkicker...
Ramsay - accumulator, good left-peg...
Cottrell - good endurance and speed, has a crack...
OUTS:
Cripps - injured, needs to rest the ankle...
Fogarty- provides pressure but not much else atm...
Newnes - Ok backup, not the future
Setterfield - abysmal...
Martin - injured, hobbling, needs a spell, not right...
Curnow - not having much of an impact, positional...
Won’t even remotely happen but that’s the way I’d go...
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Find it strange, shouldn't pick/should be dropped player x, should reward player y, who has failed to consistently dominate at the lower levels
Hopefully, Jones, Fish, Levi are healthy
Cupboard is bare beyond that, unless we play kids, just for the sake of it
6 goal win coming up
Hopefully, Jones, Fish, Levi are healthy
Cupboard is bare beyond that, unless we play kids, just for the sake of it
6 goal win coming up
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Probably the biggest game of the year for Teague coming up - on the one hand, there is a list of serious question marks about his coaching and on the other hand he has is missing a fair bit of talent and has been all year.
My question, and I guess the question the Club is asking itself is whether the inclusion of fit players like Charlie, Cuningham, Jones, McGovern would make any significant difference to outcomes and if not - then I guess the answer is there.
The season is over as far as finals goes, if not mathematically, certainly as far as expectation goes - so all that is left is players playing or their contracts and a coach doing the same - hence the importance of the coming 'dead' rubbers.
Huge game.
My question, and I guess the question the Club is asking itself is whether the inclusion of fit players like Charlie, Cuningham, Jones, McGovern would make any significant difference to outcomes and if not - then I guess the answer is there.
The season is over as far as finals goes, if not mathematically, certainly as far as expectation goes - so all that is left is players playing or their contracts and a coach doing the same - hence the importance of the coming 'dead' rubbers.
Huge game.
Big doubt on Jones. Seems Kidneys. Happened first quarter v freo.
Casboult is needed when there is nothing else
Setterfield Newnes must go
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Casboult is needed when there is nothing else
Setterfield Newnes must go
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Maybe some of these kids might just give us enough of a performance with some promising signs in what’s to come...
The reserves team has been decimated by injuries, particularly the longer the season has gone, with a average skilled group of top up players maybe some of these kids could possibly be suited up at senior level...
If we don’t at least give them a go then we won’t find out, we may just find out something by taking that chance, what’s too loose...
The reserves team has been decimated by injuries, particularly the longer the season has gone, with a average skilled group of top up players maybe some of these kids could possibly be suited up at senior level...
If we don’t at least give them a go then we won’t find out, we may just find out something by taking that chance, what’s too loose...
That’s not good news about Jonesy...
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Setterfied hasn't even been playing in VFL - so his 'form' justified selection? Don't think so. Same with Newnes when called up - his VFL form didn't justify selection. For Teague it was ( er Newnes) an experienced developed body who he has played before - but Setterfield was a serious reach to be played on a wing especially....
Agree not many in VFL are 'lighting it up' except for the bloke with the tatts and (sort of ) Honey. I don't think VFL means much when Carlton doesn't have ONE KPP playing in the side anyway.
Levi is done, fingers crossed on Jones, yeah Fish > Setterfield but doesn't answer the wing position question. Oh and fingers crossed that Cripps and Willims are able to play.
Potential nightmare game coming up.
Whilst the odds are already stacked against the current coaching group, a loss here would be absolutely catastrophic.
Collingwood are deplorable in 2021.
In: LOB (a real life wingman who can actually play the position correctly), Jones (if healthy), Fisher (should be an automatic inclusion if fit, always)
Out: Setterfield (he's only ever going to make it as an inside midfielder and his intensity is disgusting currently), Williamson (thought he battled hard yesterday and he has a future as a defender with us), Fogarty (battling hard but has lost his zip and impact from earlier in the year, where are the chase down tackles we saw?)
Let's get Ed Curnow to 200 and then introduce a youngster on the flank, such as Honey/Kemp/Ramsay.
Let's give Durdin an opportunity and rest Eddie at some stage in the last 6 weeks, who should be going around again as a part-time player/assistant coach. Owies and Martin will need a rest at some stage too.
Collingwood are deplorable in 2021.
In: LOB (a real life wingman who can actually play the position correctly), Jones (if healthy), Fisher (should be an automatic inclusion if fit, always)
Out: Setterfield (he's only ever going to make it as an inside midfielder and his intensity is disgusting currently), Williamson (thought he battled hard yesterday and he has a future as a defender with us), Fogarty (battling hard but has lost his zip and impact from earlier in the year, where are the chase down tackles we saw?)
Let's get Ed Curnow to 200 and then introduce a youngster on the flank, such as Honey/Kemp/Ramsay.
Let's give Durdin an opportunity and rest Eddie at some stage in the last 6 weeks, who should be going around again as a part-time player/assistant coach. Owies and Martin will need a rest at some stage too.
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I agree. If we lose this one then Teague will be gone imo. Fair or unfair, there's no way he's going to survive I reckon.
OUTS: Martin, Setterfield, Newnes, Curnow
INS: Honey, Ramsay, Fisher, Jones
We're getting nothing from Martin and Setterfield. Newnes and Curnow are not going to be part of our future. We're not making finals and they haven't been in great form either.
Time to blood some of the younger kids who have at least shown a bit at reserves level. Wouldn't mind seeing Carrol and Kemp get a gig soon too provided their form warrants it.
Fully expect Teague to select as many of his experienced as he can.
This has been his way from day one and he hasn’t shown the slightest inclination to change.
In the end, he’ll more than likely walk the plank with them at seasons end and 2 years will have been largely wasted …
This has been his way from day one and he hasn’t shown the slightest inclination to change.
In the end, he’ll more than likely walk the plank with them at seasons end and 2 years will have been largely wasted …
My argument here is players have floors and ceilings. In theory a player who is a top 10 pick should have a higher ceiling than a rookie/recycled player.
We seem to prioritise testing the likes of Cotteral, Newnes etc over talented junior kids.
You mean final teams on Sunday at 2.20pmNeed to wait for the Thursday 4pm injury update
Picking Setters and continuing to play him on a wing is a head scratcher, rotating 1 Cripps, Kennedy, Setters forward is a better option as all 3 can't play at centre bounces at the same time.
Newnes, when playing at VFL level found more and used the pill better, more consistently than any of the kids at that level
Disagree with the theory. Will Brodie, tauted by many as a top 3 pick, always had a limited ceiling, given his attributes, as such he has been surpassed by many within the same draft. You don't reward the lowest numbered draft pick, you reward output
So let's just trade all our early picks and play rookie players?
We basically do that anyway. So may as well right?
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