I know it's frustrating, but things change quickly
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Preview RND 18 - Carlton v Collingwood Sun 18th July 3.20PM @ MCG - Team Post #401
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I know it's frustrating, but things change quickly
Frustrating was around round 8 or 9, now its just sad.
The match committee is deadset ending kids careers with complete miss management.
In Honey, Fisher, Levi, Jones
Out. Setters, Fog, Newnes, Martin
Plow - Weitering - Newman
Stocker - Jones - Saad
Walsh - Cripps - Williamson
JSOS - Levi - Fisher
Betts - McKay - Owies
TKD - Dow - Kennedy
Williams - Honey - SPS - Cunrow
Sub Kemp
Meh…..I’d consider resting Cripps as he’s clearly not ok carrying three footy injury
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Out. Setters, Fog, Newnes, Martin
Plow - Weitering - Newman
Stocker - Jones - Saad
Walsh - Cripps - Williamson
JSOS - Levi - Fisher
Betts - McKay - Owies
TKD - Dow - Kennedy
Williams - Honey - SPS - Cunrow
Sub Kemp
Meh…..I’d consider resting Cripps as he’s clearly not ok carrying three footy injury
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I don't agree with that. Gameplan, 1st half of the year has hurt our chances, now we are fighting to have players on the park, while the gameplan has been tweaked
The list is in reasonable shape, but we still need to address some shortfalls
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The biggest shortfall being our wins column. This game has danger written all over it. Could be a coach killer. Setterfield MUST be dropped. If Cripps is not at least 80%, please let his body heal.
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Coach killer???
I think Teague doing a good enough job killing himself
He's made his bed with selection integrity and acceptance of mediocrity and conditional football
He can now lie in it
Players are cooked...Pies will win
The game where Teague may jump is the North game (if we lose)
I think Teague doing a good enough job killing himself
He's made his bed with selection integrity and acceptance of mediocrity and conditional football
He can now lie in it
Players are cooked...Pies will win
The game where Teague may jump is the North game (if we lose)
I wonder if Harvey will look in Buckley’s bottom drawer for the usual tactics for this game:
- No matter how badly DeGoey, Elliott or Stephenson have been playing in the lead up to this game just get any of them to drag Plowman one out to the goal square!!!
- No matter how badly DeGoey, Elliott or Stephenson have been playing in the lead up to this game just get any of them to drag Plowman one out to the goal square!!!
Pretty much this.
If he got sacked I will not be feeling bad for him and he has made the bed and can lay in it.
I’d wait until the final teams are lodged at 2:20pm on Sunday, and then wait one more hour until the opening bounce…Need to wait for the Thursday 4pm injury update
I like the Greek version of this saying better:
“You’ve shat in the frypan, now you can eat it.”
Season 2021 is offically done (which we knew four weeks ago). Will be interested to see how Teague and the MC go for the remainder of the year. All and sundry agree that our selections this year have not made sense and quite simply been poor. Why Setterfield was selected is anybody's guess, but a fit, young player who has been showing something in the VFL should have been selected (Ramsey/Honey).
I really feel for the players like Setterfield. Played out of position all year. Played when not fit. Their confidence plummets and we all see the result.
The simple selection parameters for the remainder of the year should be this:
If Martin is injured - he doesn't play
If Williams is injured - he doesn't play
If Casboult is still injured - he doesn't play
If Jones is still injured - he doesn't play
If Fish is unfit - he doesn't play AFL, he plays a game or two in the VFL
If Murphy is unfit and not 100%, he plays a game or two in the VFL
Unfortunately Setterfield is not retained due to his lack of form/confidence
If that means we play youngsters like Honey, Kemp and Ramsey, then so be it. Williamson, Newnes and Cottrell stay. Hopefully we see Charlie, McGovern Yes, not ideal, but we have to plan for 2022.
I really feel for the players like Setterfield. Played out of position all year. Played when not fit. Their confidence plummets and we all see the result.
The simple selection parameters for the remainder of the year should be this:
- Players must be played in position
- Players must be fit
If Martin is injured - he doesn't play
If Williams is injured - he doesn't play
If Casboult is still injured - he doesn't play
If Jones is still injured - he doesn't play
If Fish is unfit - he doesn't play AFL, he plays a game or two in the VFL
If Murphy is unfit and not 100%, he plays a game or two in the VFL
Unfortunately Setterfield is not retained due to his lack of form/confidence
If that means we play youngsters like Honey, Kemp and Ramsey, then so be it. Williamson, Newnes and Cottrell stay. Hopefully we see Charlie, McGovern Yes, not ideal, but we have to plan for 2022.
The shortfalls are of our own making.
Players like Marchbank as talented as he is was traded to us on a discount because of injury issues. Cannot stay on the list.
Our lack of Rucks and KPD is atrocious list management
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OUT: Newnes IN: O'Brien
Alternative: Ramsay
We just need more concrete offensive prodution on the outside of our midfield than what we had on the weekend, and Newnes was part of the problem. Walsh can play the same role better and smarter, and that should be his default position on the field from now on.
O'Brien or Ramsay can compliment that, depending on how much running power we want, and how much we want SPS to rotate through the forward line.
OUT: Martin IN: Murphy
Alternative: None
Just get Murphy the extra four games. Martin's output is way down and his touch is way off, rest him a week or two and encourage him to work on his intensity and midfield contribution in the VFL.
OUT: Setterfield IN: Carroll
Alternatives: Fisher, Ramsay
This is more like for like, except I'd back Carroll to have a solid contribution off wing/HF in current form. If Carroll didn't manage to back up his form, then maybe look at Fisher or Ramsay. Any one of them adds pace and more of an attacking bite.
OUT: Newman IN: Jones
Alternatives: Kemp, Casboult
Spare man who barely gets off the ground to spoil. Decent work at ground level, but we've got 3 other players in the team who can manage that. Time to let Stocker and Williamson contribute at this phase of play. If Jones isn't fit, let's get Kemp in to do it.
Alternative: Ramsay
We just need more concrete offensive prodution on the outside of our midfield than what we had on the weekend, and Newnes was part of the problem. Walsh can play the same role better and smarter, and that should be his default position on the field from now on.
O'Brien or Ramsay can compliment that, depending on how much running power we want, and how much we want SPS to rotate through the forward line.
OUT: Martin IN: Murphy
Alternative: None
Just get Murphy the extra four games. Martin's output is way down and his touch is way off, rest him a week or two and encourage him to work on his intensity and midfield contribution in the VFL.
OUT: Setterfield IN: Carroll
Alternatives: Fisher, Ramsay
This is more like for like, except I'd back Carroll to have a solid contribution off wing/HF in current form. If Carroll didn't manage to back up his form, then maybe look at Fisher or Ramsay. Any one of them adds pace and more of an attacking bite.
OUT: Newman IN: Jones
Alternatives: Kemp, Casboult
Spare man who barely gets off the ground to spoil. Decent work at ground level, but we've got 3 other players in the team who can manage that. Time to let Stocker and Williamson contribute at this phase of play. If Jones isn't fit, let's get Kemp in to do it.
Finals out of the question - play Murphy for four games.
There is still some room for sentiment !!
There is still some room for sentiment !!
I’m watching the Collingwood Richmond game having watched last night’s game.
If Collingwood come to play against us next week as they are playing now then we will definitely lose And, possibly, badly.
Things MUST change at this club.
Seriously.
If Collingwood come to play against us next week as they are playing now then we will definitely lose And, possibly, badly.
Things MUST change at this club.
Seriously.
Lose and we could be bottom 4.
out: Martin,Fogarty, Setterfield, Williamson, Williams (injured), Cripps (injured)
in: Jones, Honey, Fisher, Kemp, Ramsay, Casboult
out: Martin,Fogarty, Setterfield, Williamson, Williams (injured), Cripps (injured)
in: Jones, Honey, Fisher, Kemp, Ramsay, Casboult
After the Wobbles knocking off S**tmond they are gunna have their tails up!
After watching that last quarter we could be in for a right pumping this week.
If we end up in the bottom 4 come the end of the year there's no way Teague survives imo, even if Clarkson stays at Hawthorn.
If we end up in the bottom 4 come the end of the year there's no way Teague survives imo, even if Clarkson stays at Hawthorn.
With the greatest lI’ve and respect Arrow you are much too much of a rusted on a supporter to properly appreciate the REAL problems with our list.
Let us accept, without emotive judgment, that the Club embarked on a genuine re build but that it has fallen short.
Now we need a ”new broom” to undertake the next reform!
Great opportunity this game. Pies have played well lately. They have few injuries. They’re playing with nothing to lose and under no pressure. Each of our players has the opportunity to focus on their job and complete each task with intensity.
Fogarty has been very impotent for a long time now and has to go. Honey should get his chance. Setterfield was beyond deplorable and has to go. Hopefully fisher is moving well and if so should come in. Casboult will be back in. May actually plays in defence. Williamson probably out.
Martin has been very poor but I think they will just keep persisting with him.
Fogarty has been very impotent for a long time now and has to go. Honey should get his chance. Setterfield was beyond deplorable and has to go. Hopefully fisher is moving well and if so should come in. Casboult will be back in. May actually plays in defence. Williamson probably out.
Martin has been very poor but I think they will just keep persisting with him.
How am I not surprised you have Newnes and Newman as outs again and Murphy as an in.
Newman was in our best 1/2 dozen, Newnes had 4th most disposals and 6 others had similar or worse disposal efficiency. Neither will get dropped
Jones will probably come in for Willow
Levi will probably replace Setters
With the greatest respect, I disagree. While we have some holes to fill, the list is solid and should have been in and around the 8
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