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Robbo cries for his beloved Albert
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In over drive today eh lance?
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I have to say that in all my time on bigfooty this would have to be the best troll thread. It will be a shame to see it closed 
Robbo saves his best 'til last...
"Hird deserves an apology" "Media have been campaining"
Oh Robbo! Ask yourself one question you stupid fat heck... Why was there a case to begin with?
Know the answer to that and you will be closer to the truth you drunken bum.
"Hird deserves an apology" "Media have been campaining"
Oh Robbo! Ask yourself one question you stupid fat heck... Why was there a case to begin with?
Know the answer to that and you will be closer to the truth you drunken bum.
Pretty cowardly from Robbo calling out Chris Judd like that.
What happens on the field should stay on the field, unless an actual player wants to talk.
Poor form from the fat slob.
Hope ASADA appeals.
There sounds like a lot of hate in that article. You can almost hear the keyboard bashing.
He's a very unstable man.
He'll probably wake with a hangover about 11am, just in time to hear that there will be an appeal.
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Wake up with a hangover? Robbo has had a hangover since 2000. Probably saved a pub from going under that night.
Just goes to show what a craven propagandist Robbo is.
I wasn't aware Hird and Essendon were absolved of anything after this decision.
I wasn't aware Hird and Essendon were absolved of anything after this decision.
Yes, according to Robbo they are. We should all apologise.
Read these last 2 lines from his article... Just baffling.
"Some will try to argue “insufficient evidence’’ doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It is the defence of the desperate."
Those of are the words of the world's biggest ass clown.
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You can hear Robbos massive grin at the Hird press conference.
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Robbo has topped his personal bests today…
Just when you thought he couldn't lose any more credibility...
Essendon, James Hird have right to feel angry after being found not guilty by anti-doping tribunal
THERE will be some unsettled individuals today and many of them would be current and former AFL officials.The players would not be among them. They will sleep soundly tonight. After two years and two months of anxiety, fear and uncertainty, they are footballers again. And not drug cheats. It was never their fault, of course, but a drug cheat is a drug cheat. Just ask Chris Judd, who last season taunted the Bombers on the field.
James Hird will not be among them, either. He will sleep soundly — once he contains his anger. One time during this inglorious and flawed investigation into Essendon’s 2012 supplement program, he was likened to Lindy Chamberlain, an evil individual who just had to be guilty of the crime. You see, just as prosecutors spun a fanciful story that Chamberlain had killed her baby, the AFL spun a story that Hird was the architect — with Stephen Dank of a drug regime of horrific proportions.
Today, the Bombers were found not guilty. There’s no more emphatic two words in the English language than not guilty. Actually, there might be. One starts with G and the other with F and Hird might want to scream them from the rafters.
Told way back on the morning of February 5 by the AFL’s current chief executive Gillon McLachlan that his players had been given performance-enhancing drugs, Hird can now tell McLachlan he was wrong. Hird wanted to say that at a press conference hours later, when sitting beside David Evans and Ian Robson, but he was told not to. McLachlan and then Essendon’s suddenly employed crisis manager and now senior AFL executive, Elizabeth Lukin, strongly advised against it. Take full responsibility, he was told to say. And he did. And the media lynch mob never let him forget it.
There will be some unsettled and disenchanted media folk today. They ran a relentless campaign — on the back of unsubstantiated accusations of drug use and a belief the old Windy Hill was nothing but clandestine and dangerous drug den — to have Hird booted out of the the AFL. When the investigation was at its most frenzied, some of them even won major media awards. They played judge, jury and executioner on misinformation. Clearly, it was a sensational story with Hird the No. 1 villain.
At one time, Hird was said to be warned by the AFL about the use of peptides. On the day the story broke, the AFL just happened to make an amendment to the original notes taken two years earlier. At another time, it was written that Essendon was being investigated for 35 different drugs when, at the end, it was one, Thymosin, which may have referred to Thymosin Beta 4 or Thymomdulin. All the time there were continuous references to off-site and subcutaneous injections and midnight text messages and AOD-9604 and calf’s blood and pigs guts and Mexican jumping beans and whatever else the propaganda machine was spitting out.
Mistakes were made on all fronts. Dank and Dean Robinson were experimental. Hird was enthusiastic and perhaps naive, while everyone else at Essendon, including Mark Thompson and Ian Robson and David Evans, have to take a level of responsibility. So did the AFL. They already have one writ claiming a lack of duty of care and who knows how many will join that list. Unquestionably, after the AFL learned of the contents of the Project Aperio investigation by the Australian Crime Commission, the AFL set out to get Essendon as a whole and Hird as an individual. It’s why governance became the buzz word when the AFL wanted the Bombers out of the 2013 finals series. Unprecedented in an ASADA investigation, the AFL demanded an interim report and demanded that ASADA’s findings paint Essendon’s governance as shambolic.
The Bombers took a $2 million hit, lost draft picks and were booted from the 2013 finals. Hird was ultimately suspended, too, when Australian Sports Commission boss John Whylie was drafted in to help AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick and Essendon chairman Paul Little close a deal which included Hird’s ban of 12 months. Fitzpatrick wouldn’t budge on Hird being penalised and Essendon begged Hird to accept. Hird’s anger with the AFL is absolute. One day, he’ll tell his story when Essendon actually allows him to talk about everything that happened, about Dank and Robinson and the supplement program. And the most intriguing, all those heated meetings and conversations with AFL officials.
At different times and directly and indirectly, the AFL’s two highest office holders, Andrew Demetriou and Fitzpatrick, both wanted to Hird to resign or be sacked or at the very least be suspended. Demetriou hinted at it in a radio interview in April, 2013. And Fitzpatrick told Hird in August, 2013, at the so-called “hearing’’, that he couldn’t believe that Hird had not resigned. Perhaps an apology is in the offing.
Throughout it all, Hird became the face of the supplement regime even more so than the mysterious Dank. Resolutely, he has stood his ground in the face of withering media and public backlash, which was so fierce and personal that his young family had to be spared from newspapers, TV news and the radio. The times his children came home from school in tears both cruelled him and drove him. He has maintained from day one, in February 2013, that his players did not take performance-enhancing drugs and today the AFL’s anti-doping tribunal agreed.
Some will try to argue “insufficient evidence’’ doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It is the defence of the desperate.
Just when you thought he couldn't lose any more credibility...
Essendon, James Hird have right to feel angry after being found not guilty by anti-doping tribunal
THERE will be some unsettled individuals today and many of them would be current and former AFL officials.The players would not be among them. They will sleep soundly tonight. After two years and two months of anxiety, fear and uncertainty, they are footballers again. And not drug cheats. It was never their fault, of course, but a drug cheat is a drug cheat. Just ask Chris Judd, who last season taunted the Bombers on the field.
James Hird will not be among them, either. He will sleep soundly — once he contains his anger. One time during this inglorious and flawed investigation into Essendon’s 2012 supplement program, he was likened to Lindy Chamberlain, an evil individual who just had to be guilty of the crime. You see, just as prosecutors spun a fanciful story that Chamberlain had killed her baby, the AFL spun a story that Hird was the architect — with Stephen Dank of a drug regime of horrific proportions.
Today, the Bombers were found not guilty. There’s no more emphatic two words in the English language than not guilty. Actually, there might be. One starts with G and the other with F and Hird might want to scream them from the rafters.
Told way back on the morning of February 5 by the AFL’s current chief executive Gillon McLachlan that his players had been given performance-enhancing drugs, Hird can now tell McLachlan he was wrong. Hird wanted to say that at a press conference hours later, when sitting beside David Evans and Ian Robson, but he was told not to. McLachlan and then Essendon’s suddenly employed crisis manager and now senior AFL executive, Elizabeth Lukin, strongly advised against it. Take full responsibility, he was told to say. And he did. And the media lynch mob never let him forget it.
There will be some unsettled and disenchanted media folk today. They ran a relentless campaign — on the back of unsubstantiated accusations of drug use and a belief the old Windy Hill was nothing but clandestine and dangerous drug den — to have Hird booted out of the the AFL. When the investigation was at its most frenzied, some of them even won major media awards. They played judge, jury and executioner on misinformation. Clearly, it was a sensational story with Hird the No. 1 villain.
At one time, Hird was said to be warned by the AFL about the use of peptides. On the day the story broke, the AFL just happened to make an amendment to the original notes taken two years earlier. At another time, it was written that Essendon was being investigated for 35 different drugs when, at the end, it was one, Thymosin, which may have referred to Thymosin Beta 4 or Thymomdulin. All the time there were continuous references to off-site and subcutaneous injections and midnight text messages and AOD-9604 and calf’s blood and pigs guts and Mexican jumping beans and whatever else the propaganda machine was spitting out.
Mistakes were made on all fronts. Dank and Dean Robinson were experimental. Hird was enthusiastic and perhaps naive, while everyone else at Essendon, including Mark Thompson and Ian Robson and David Evans, have to take a level of responsibility. So did the AFL. They already have one writ claiming a lack of duty of care and who knows how many will join that list. Unquestionably, after the AFL learned of the contents of the Project Aperio investigation by the Australian Crime Commission, the AFL set out to get Essendon as a whole and Hird as an individual. It’s why governance became the buzz word when the AFL wanted the Bombers out of the 2013 finals series. Unprecedented in an ASADA investigation, the AFL demanded an interim report and demanded that ASADA’s findings paint Essendon’s governance as shambolic.
The Bombers took a $2 million hit, lost draft picks and were booted from the 2013 finals. Hird was ultimately suspended, too, when Australian Sports Commission boss John Whylie was drafted in to help AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick and Essendon chairman Paul Little close a deal which included Hird’s ban of 12 months. Fitzpatrick wouldn’t budge on Hird being penalised and Essendon begged Hird to accept. Hird’s anger with the AFL is absolute. One day, he’ll tell his story when Essendon actually allows him to talk about everything that happened, about Dank and Robinson and the supplement program. And the most intriguing, all those heated meetings and conversations with AFL officials.
At different times and directly and indirectly, the AFL’s two highest office holders, Andrew Demetriou and Fitzpatrick, both wanted to Hird to resign or be sacked or at the very least be suspended. Demetriou hinted at it in a radio interview in April, 2013. And Fitzpatrick told Hird in August, 2013, at the so-called “hearing’’, that he couldn’t believe that Hird had not resigned. Perhaps an apology is in the offing.
Throughout it all, Hird became the face of the supplement regime even more so than the mysterious Dank. Resolutely, he has stood his ground in the face of withering media and public backlash, which was so fierce and personal that his young family had to be spared from newspapers, TV news and the radio. The times his children came home from school in tears both cruelled him and drove him. He has maintained from day one, in February 2013, that his players did not take performance-enhancing drugs and today the AFL’s anti-doping tribunal agreed.
Some will try to argue “insufficient evidence’’ doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It is the defence of the desperate.
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If he has the right to feel angry - why is he apologising?
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Oh well that's that.
They got away with it. Does not matter whether WADA appeal, the AFL had its chance and blew it. It is now a forever tarnished comp.
Over and out
They got away with it. Does not matter whether WADA appeal, the AFL had its chance and blew it. It is now a forever tarnished comp.
Over and out
There are so many half truths, lies, and important facts buried in throw away lines in that article that I don't even know where to start.
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Well done Robbo , someone's finally
said how it is . Hirdy does deserve a lot of apologies but he won't get them and I'm sure he's quietly having a laugh at the media now .
said how it is . Hirdy does deserve a lot of apologies but he won't get them and I'm sure he's quietly having a laugh at the media now .
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