Rumour Rory Lobb

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In my opinion, half the drafts called strong aren’t. Eg 2008 was a “strong draft” whereas the two either side of it were meant to be weak. However, 2007 has produced two Brownlow medallists, 2009 has produced two as well, while 2008 has produced zero.

The difference is that 2008 went deep, we were taking rookie draft picks that were as good or better than almost all of our draft picks in 2007.

So what does strong draft mean? That the top 20 are all rolled gold, or that pick 100 is as good as pick 40 is in any other year? If it’s the latter, we shouldn’t be anymore concerned about trading top picks than any other year.

 

[Lach72]

In my opinion, half the drafts called strong aren’t. Eg 2008 was a “strong draft” whereas the two either side of it were meant to be weak. However, 2007 has produced two Brownlow medallists, 2009 has produced two as well, while 2008 has produced zero.

The difference is that 2008 went deep, we were taking rookie draft picks that were as good or better than almost all of our draft picks in 2007.

So what does strong draft mean? That the top 20 are all rolled gold, or that pick 100 is as good as pick 40 is in any other year? If it’s the latter, we shouldn’t be anymore concerned about trading top picks than any other year.

This one is heavy at the top end.
Probably out to 25 or so


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[Joao]

This one is heavy at the top end.
Probably out to 25 or so


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If you beleive Twomey (and a number of the BF draft guys) it is only heavy at the very top end - ie 1-7

 

[Lach72]

Ex Adelaide recruiter deep into the 20’s he said

 

[Joao]

Ex Adelaide recruiter deep into the 20’s he said

Fair enough. Makes sense too as they are accruing top 20 picks this year (up to 4).

I am sure different people will have differing opinions as well.

Edit: He just said you have to get your first rounders right else you get in trouble...

 

[theGav56]

Yeah sure the top 7. But my expectations are Hately projects as good as LDU, and Hill and many others are exciting

 

[go_the_dockers]

Yeah sure the top 7. But my expectations are Hately projects as good as LDU, and Hill and many others are exciting

Jack Lukosius
Izak Rankine
Sam Walsh
Nick Blakey
Bailey Smith
Ben King
Max King
Conner Rozee

They are the top 8 in my eyes.

 

[Hammersoup]

Really hope we keep the Lobb trade separate from this yrs draft pick/picks. If we can look at trading and swapping futures it would be much better. Sounds like the first 8 players are high potential.

 

[mightymouse75]

Happy to get lob. Downgrade & pick up a hill. In bell we trust

 

[go_the_dockers]

Surely Pick 23 gets it done.

We may as well do the trade now.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

Surely Pick 23 gets it done.

We may as well do the trade now.

Maybe we are looking to see what eventuates with Neale first and exchange say pick 5 (and a but extra) for Lobb and there pick 14. I would think we would be looking to have picks 11 and a pick between 13-18 for our top two locally targeted players.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Maybe we are looking to see what eventuates with Neale first and exchange say pick 5 (and a but extra) for Lobb and there pick 14. I would think we would be looking to have picks 11 and a pick between 13-18 for our top two locally targeted players.

Ideally 3, Clarke, Stack and Hill would be a good return from the draft.

 

[apuchar]

Ideally 3, Clarke, Stack and Hill would be a good return from the draft.

If we are trying to improve the attitudes and professionalism of the playing list then Stack would probably be unlikely

 

[Superkoops]

How about the following if GWS are obsessed with a pick 17-20 range

11, 23, 30 > 14, 25, Lobb

Rates Lobb at 919pts and almost Pick 19.

Leaves us with: 14, 25, 49, 81

 

[Deathly]

How about the following if GWS are obsessed with a pick 17-20 range

11, 23, 30 > 14, 25, Lobb

Rates Lobb at 919pts and almost Pick 19.

Leaves us with: 14, 25, 49, 81

That's a good trade, I'd do it. Need to get our main man sorted pronto.

 

[eastfreo75]

How about the following if GWS are obsessed with a pick 17-20 range

11, 23, 30 > 14, 25, Lobb

Rates Lobb at 919pts and almost Pick 19.

Leaves us with: 14, 25, 49, 81

I had something similar.

Pick 23, 30 for Lobb and pick 47.

But I like yours better.

Depends on the Hogan deal.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Still not convinced on Lobb. We have a bunch of average rakey forwards already. He said he doesn’t want to ruck but that’s where he’d be more valuable as a second ruck/forward supporting Shoosh. Trading our 6 down (out of the ‘supreme’ top 8) to 11 and then down further again seems like madness for Lobb. Especially when we’re in rebuild mode. I also predicted wet toast to finish below us this year so probably best to go with the opposite of my gut.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Still not convinced on Lobb. We have a bunch of average rakey forwards already. He said he doesn’t want to ruck but that’s where he’d be more valuable as a second ruck/forward supporting Shoosh. Trading our 6 down (out of the ‘supreme’ top 8) to 11 and then down further again seems like madness for Lobb. Especially when we’re in rebuild mode. I also predicted wet toast to finish below us this year so probably best to go with the opposite of my gut.

He said he did not want to be the main ruck.

Pretty sure he is happy to be forward/ 2nd ruck

 

[eastfreo75]

Lobb structurally is extremely valuable.

Darcy as the primary ruck and Lobb as a part time ruck in our best 22 when Sandilands retires.

Then we have a good reserve ruck if Darcy is injuried. Lobb then becomes the third ruck on the list if both rucks can’t play.

 

[332docker]

Lobb structurally is extremely valuable.

Darcy as the primary ruck and Lobb as a part time ruck in our best 22 when Sandilands retires.

Then we have a good reserve ruck if Darcy is injuried. Lobb then becomes the third ruck on the list if both rucks can’t play.

I reckon with the new rules - guys like Lobb, Tabs and cox who can contested mark the ball around the ground will be invaluable. i've got no probs having them all in same forward line - would really straighten us up I reckon

 

[mightymouse75]

Great focal point in our firward line. Cant see us getting hogan. So lob is a must have

 

[FreoGirl]

I woke up believing we had Lobb - checked all over the internet and it was just a dream I then got all hopeful and thought “oh maybe the grand final was just a dream too!” - alas, I was wrong.

I am sleeping badly during the trade period so I hope they wrap up ‘something’ today!!

 

[Tundrawolf]

Hopefully Lobb can play a Mason Cox type role at full forward and then pinch hit in the ruck maybe 15 -20% of the time.

That would enable Tabs/Cox or Hogan if we get him to play at CHF.

We still need some dangerous quick small forwards otherwise our forward line is too slow. Matera, Grey, Ballantyne just won't cut it. Walters is the only small of quality we have down there, he's not quick but makes up for it in other ways.

 

[DMan 11]

Hopefully Lobb can play a Mason Cox type role at full forward and then pinch hit in the ruck maybe 15 -20% of the time.

That would enable Tabs/Cox or Hogan if we get him to play at CHF.

We still need some dangerous quick small forwards otherwise our forward line is too slow. Matera, Grey, Ballantyne just won't cut it. Walters is the only small of quality we have down there, he's not quick but makes up for it in other ways.

Completely agree re the smalls - hopefully Ian Hill comes in and Switta comes on next year.
Strangely, we might have a functioning forward line if the above all pans out !!

 

[Redgum]

I woke up believing we had Lobb - checked all over the internet and it was just a dream I then got all hopeful and thought “oh maybe the grand final was just a dream too!” - alas, I was wrong.

I am sleeping badly during the trade period so I hope they wrap up ‘something’ today!!

I am also anxious and wondering why hasn't at the very least ,the lobb deal get done ?? it's not like you are giving away a very high draft pick unless GWS are trying to screw us like they did with McCarthy