Rumour Rory Lobb

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go_the_dockers said:
His best effort is 29 goals from 24 games, playing as the 3rd tall in GWS.

Taberner is better than him, he won't cost 600+k and a 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

Taberner every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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29 goals from 24 games is more than Tabs has ever kicked / played in a season. What is your point? that lobb kicks more goals and is more durable / likely to get picked?
 
Lobb >>>> Taberner for mine. Tabs is a poor ruckman IMHO. Yes he takes marks, but jeez he drops some sitters too - so frustrating. But as a rookie pick he's been great with steady improvement every year. His improvement can come from consistency, but I agree he has hit his ceiling talent-wise. And there's nothing wrong with that (Same for Lobb too BTW.)

In any case, I reckon they're different players. It's Apeness who makes way for Lobb for mine. Taberner can play purely CHF. Lobb at FF rotating in the ruck.

Oh and the Cox/Hooker comparison is a good one too. Maybe even Harry Taylor/Tom McDonald. We need a swingman and Cox in that role can end all that silly talk of Alex Pearce moving forward.
 

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go_the_dockers said:
There is also the lack of forward pressure he applies, he probably gave away as many goals he created. No better than Cox.
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He doesn't need to be applying forward pressure. We will have Ballantyne, Switty & Walters there to do that, why does he have to when the flow-on effect of his presence is the most important part about him being in our structure? He's not that clumsy with his body-work and going off that one video the majority of his contested marks are from him coming into the pack so how is he giving them away? Have you actually watched much of him or are you just assuming this? Go see how much the likes of Greene, Patton, Cameron, Himmelberg & Stevie J capitalized because of him throughout the last three seasons and then remind me why his average goals per game matters again.
 
So genuine question, did he slide in his draft year? We took Apeness instead of him and was wondering what was that like at the time? Did Apeness slide and Lobb not have this look about him then?

I'm all for Lobb, as long as we can still keep Cox in the side. Would almost try Tabs/Lobb switching in a Blicavs role as a wingman while Cox and the other is forward. If we get Hogan then we'd have to lose one of our talls, probs Strndica but I don't want to see him go.
 
Deathly said:
Can you stop fueling your argument with surface numbers and have a look at the people around him who he fed goals to on top of kicking them himself. It's very bland and inaccurate at this point.
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Surface numbers vs what, the general vibe of the guy? I agree a comparison done solely on goals is a little iffy but it isn’t just in goals that him and Tabs are comparable.

Have you actually watched him? I’ve definetly thought he’s been overrated for years. A lot of very, very average games in there despite playing in an incredibly attacking team. The reality of Lobb is just that he’s a mediocre forward.
 
Joao said:
It isn't going to be a 3rd rounder and he is reportedly on 600k+. It's too much.
2nd rounder and 450k, sure lets do it. At the very least he is great depth.

I think where your first line is what annoys me the most.

We finally start to develop promising KPFs with lower picks and then seemingly abandon them for blokes who, at least to my eye, aren't noticeably better if at all.
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To my eye Lobb is a noticeably better 2nd ruck/floating forward than Cox - the very type of player that WC used to help win a premiership with a dominant second half performance in GF.

If we pick up Lobb, Cox and Tabs stay in the B22. The guy under pressure will be McCarthy - he'll have to prove that he is flexible enough to contribute as a 3rd/4th tall with a more mobile element to his game. It could just work imo.
 
SHill Shall said:
To my eye Lobb is a noticeably better 2nd ruck/floating forward than Cox - the very type of player that WC used to help win a premiership with a dominant second half performance in GF.

If we pick up Lobb, Cox and Tabs stay in the B22. The guy under pressure will be McCarthy - he'll have to prove that he is flexible enough to contribute as a 3rd/4th tall with a more mobile element to his game. It could just work imo.
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I don't think Lobb and Cox are competing (well they shouldn't be). I would have thought that Tabs is the one in danger and Ape even moreso. No argument that Lobb isn't a better ruck either. I just don't rate the work of the 20% ruckman that highly. All they have to do is not get pantsed when no1 is resting.

- I think Cox is the most talented of the lot, including Lobb. He is also comfortably the smartest of them and the best field kick. The only one of the three I can recall laying forward 50 tackles. He is also the worst set shot.
- Tabs is the best forward of the 3 as it stands. He is also probably the most limited and has the lower ceiling. Can't fault his work ethic though.
- Lobb is the best mark and kick for goal, and whilst mobile for someone his size, is the least mobile. Suspect he'd get to far less contests than Tabs.

I don't want him simply because I don't think he is enough of an improvement for the likely cost. I also REALLY don't want Cox in the WAFL or playing back. That said, I like shiny new toys and I will no doubt get behind him and tell everyone how awesome he is when he kicks 3 goals in the JLT.

Realistically, if Lobb comes and Hogan doesn't, I think our best mix is Lobb, Cox and (if he pulls his finger out) Cam. Since Cam probably won't, Tabs can play.
 
go_the_dockers said:
1.38 goals per game is more than Lobb has ever kicked.
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Lobb has more bags of 3 and 4 goals than tabs. Against the likes of Port, Hawthorn, WC and others.

Tabs has kicked 4 twice and from memory both times, Essendon were down a key defender.

in 2017 and 2018 Lobb averaged 11 and 20 hitouts per game so either he's playing the same role as tabs and he's way more effective as a ruck or he's playing a different role since he kicked 29 in 2016.

How do you rationalise that Taberner kicking 11 goals in 8 games is an example of a good season compared to 29 goals in 24 when he didn't even warrant selection for most of that season?
 

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Tabs needs to be set free so he can run around like N. Reiwoldt. Be good to get another forward so that Tabs can take on this role. See him in the grand final sprint? Don't tell me his marking and goal kicking didn't improve last season.
 
Bastyy said:
Pick 22 from the Neale trade OR future second round and Scott Jones?
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Picks 5 and 23 from Brisbane for Neale.

We could then try and get Lobb for pick 23 from GWS but that may not be enough. If that's the case we offer pick 6 for pick 24 from GWS (equivalent to about pick 19 for Lobb).

Hogan aside, we would then go into the draft with picks 5, 23 and 24 (having swapped Neale for Lobb). The first option would leave us have picks 5 and 6 to use in the draft - less picks but better quality.
 
Deathly said:
"Stats for 2018"

19 games playing 9. Forced ruck with slow preseason against a forward. Not even a convincing lead for the stat.

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I'll be honest, didn't notice that it said 2018... wondered why Tabs seemed like a gun.

I suppose all those stats illustrate is Lobb's inability to impact the game in the ruck which is fine since we aren't playing him there full time.

There is no excuse for the pasting in contested marks though. As a ruck you would get plenty of looks at that and would have a ruckman defending you most of the time as opposed to a defender.
 

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