Player Watch Rory Sloane - Retired

[Southerntakeover]

What point are you trying to make with your quotes? That he might need to make an impact somewhere other than midfield? Doesn’t change that he was viewed as a highly important player to have at the club, at the time

And where did I mention standing amongst all-timers? More talking about fan respect, definitely more than ‘his career hasn’t been that good’

The point I'm trying to make is that attempting to paint me as someone who didn't have questions or concerns about Sloane back then is dishonest.

What do you think that good means? It only has meaning relative to the context. No one in the thread has yet been prepared to actually argue that his career is good enough that he calls his shot, or he's an all time great. So no one contests the substance. Why then has it been necessary to have pages of concern that something that was little more than a bare statement of fact posted without emotive critique was somehow a lack of respect.

 

[MsTopG]

It sounds like the club's preference is for Rory to retire, but he is still pushing for another year. So they are probably working through that now before anything is announced. Going by comments from Rory he wont put his hand up it will need to be the club to make that call. You just have to hope that if the club has made that call he get's on board with it and accepts it is time, rather than holding out hope for a last minute reprieve after the season is finished.

If they retire him he has no choice but to get onboard with it. Not much he can do tbh.

 

[MrBarry]

Sloaney career as a player , an AA , respected throughout the league universally …. Many years not far off AA . Let’s remember Luke Shuey hasn’t had one to his name

Had a good 5+ years in highest rated player bracket statistically due to offence / defensive balance

Was good in big moments , got the absolute best out of himself given he was late pick and lacked size + athleticism

Ah yeah ‘not that good’



It’s a better career than your failed attempt to join the cheer squad back in the day

I don't think Sloane has been as good as people make him out to be either.

Always thought people overrated him because he has nice hair and sort of looked like a man boy.

 

[MrBarry]

If they retire him he has no choice but to get onboard with it. Not much he can do tbh.

He can spit the dummy ala Talia.

 

[Danger in Texas]

The point I'm trying to make is that attempting to paint me as someone who didn't have questions or concerns about Sloane back then is dishonest.

What do you think that good means? It only has meaning relative to the context. No one in the thread has yet been prepared to actually argue that his career is good enough that he calls his shot, or he's an all time great. So no one contests the substance. Why then has it been necessary to have pages of concern that something that was little more than a bare statement of fact posted without emotive critique was somehow a lack of respect.

So why not say ‘he’s had a very good career, but not so good that he deserves preferential treatment’? Why bring about the inevitable negative backlash? Surely you can see how that would be interpreted

 

[MsTopG]

He can spit the dummy ala Talia.

Well that's not a good way to go out. Just accept it gracefully and move on. AFC will probably offer him a job anyway.

 

[MrBarry]

Well that's not a good way to go out. Just accept it gracefully and move on.

Not saying he won't, but there is a situation where he doesn't accept it and makes a stink about it.

 

[Consolaçao]

Setting aside whether he retires next year (and I hope for his and club’s sake that he does) his selection for probably the most consequential game of the year tells you a lot about the culture of this club.
They could put their faith in a young player (Berry, McHenry, Sholl, even Hately) each of who might be a part of a top 4 side in a couple of years. Give a young kid an opportunity to play in the biggest game of his career. Obviously there’s risk, but also upside.
On the other hand, they could go with the easy option.. everyone’s mate, the old warhorse who was a star in his day, but whose recent form’s been horrible.
If Adelaide were a serious club, it’d be Option 1 every time.
For same reasons, I worry he’s going to stay another year. Clogging up a spot ‘because he’s earned it’.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Oh right. It's you and the "well respected posters".

It's Rankine, it's Fogarty its this time I upset you, it's that time. See what I mean? You hold onto the hurt feelings for too long, and it means you can't play the ball on its merits.

Not at all , I’ve given you credit for your calls on Fogarty and liked plenty of your other posts over time

I don’t hold a grudge and will like more of your posts in future if I think you make some good points

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I don't think Sloane has been as good as people make him out to be either.

Always thought people overrated him because he has nice hair and sort of looked like a man boy.

Probably a fair enough opinion even if I don’t 100% agree

 

[Southerntakeover]

Not at all , I’ve given you credit for your calls on Fogarty and liked plenty of your other posts over time

I don’t hold a grudge and will like more of your posts in future if I think you make some good points

I just told you I don't want likes from the dregs.






I'm joking I'm joking.

 

[MsTopG]

Sloaney career as a player , an AA , respected throughout the league universally …. Many years not far off AA . Let’s remember Luke Shuey hasn’t had one to his name

Had a good 5+ years in highest rated player bracket statistically due to offence / defensive balance

Was good in big moments , got the absolute best out of himself given he was late pick and lacked size + athleticism

Ah yeah ‘not that good’



It’s a better career than your failed attempt to join the cheer squad back in the day

Sloane got the most out of himself but he is no champion. You can't seriously put him in the same category as a Selwood, Dangerfield, Judd, Riccuito. I would say he had a similar career to a Scottt Thompson, although I rate Thommo higher as he was more durable.

 

[bonehilda]

Not saying he won't, but there is a situation where he doesn't accept it and makes a stink about it.

The comments he’s made and the media reports regarding his confidence and desire to play on have already set the club up to look like the big bad villain in any scenario that isn’t a new contract, sadly. Almost feels like a guilt trip and has left a very foul taste in my mouth. If he is forced to retire, I can’t imagine the press conference being pretty. Might not make any explicit comments, but I think his bitterness would be palpable.

 

[crowsup]

I just told you I don't want likes from the dregs.






I'm joking I'm joking.

You're probably correct in believing that Sloane hasn't achieved very much. At least not enough to be considered a champion of the club. After all there're hundreds of players in each team, that have been selected 250 times to represent their team. Probably only because, like D.Mac, he has had incriminating photos of all the coaches that have gone through the club while he was playing for it. So I guess that playing 250 games for any team is not a high achievement.

 

[GROTTO]

The comments he’s made and the media reports regarding his confidence and desire to play on have already set the club up to look like the big bad villain in any scenario that isn’t a new contract, sadly. Almost feels like a guilt trip and has left a very foul taste in my mouth. If he is forced to retire, I can’t imagine the press conference being pretty. Might not make any explicit comments, but I think his bitterness would be palpable.

We should be contending next year to make the 8.

Would any side in the comp take him if we didnt offer him a contract? Almost definitely not. That alone tells you where he is at.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

There is a Sloane thread peoples...

 

[Southerntakeover]

So why not say ‘he’s had a very good career, but not so good that he deserves preferential treatment’? Why bring about the inevitable negative backlash? Surely you can see how that would be interpreted

Because I'm not your short term memory?

 

[Mutineer]

There is a Sloane thread peoples...

Same crapola, different thread.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I just told you I don't want likes from the dregs.






I'm joking I'm joking.

Haha well played

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Sloane got the most out of himself but he is no champion. You can't seriously put him in the same category as a Selwood, Dangerfield, Judd, Riccuito. I would say he had a similar career to a Scottt Thompson, although I rate Thommo higher as he was more durable.

In a general sense no he’s probably not I agree

He’s a club great though

 

[bonehilda]

We should be contending next year to make the 8.

Would any side in the comp take him if we didnt offer him a contract? Almost definitely not. That alone tells you where he is at.

Completely agree. And I doubt any non-Crows supporter would have any memory or opinion on his season.

You just cannot give a 33 year old player another contract off that if you’re serious about improving a young side.

And the argument I’ve seen most for keeping him in the side is “experience and leadership” but I just don’t buy that at all.

Dawson was given captaincy for a reason. Tex has experience and leadership in spades. Both are performing at AA level, leaders by example. I’d even argue Crouch’s experience is more valuable if he keeps playing like he has the past few weeks.

And the notion that he should be a super sub next year is baffling too, to me a sub should be someone young and speedy. The reasons certain people provide to justify another contract are just too flimsy.

Sloane’s output in my opinion has literally contributed to incredibly costly losses towards the back end of the season. Him starting in the midfield just disrupts the harmony, he isn’t a four quarter player anymore.

I don’t begrudge the players for enjoying playing with him if they do, but surely they know and can see what they’re capable of without him by now.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Completely agree. And I doubt any non-Crows supporter would have any memory or opinion on his season.

You just cannot give a 33 year old player another contract off that if you’re serious about improving a young side.

And the argument I’ve seen most for keeping him in the side is “experience and leadership” but I just don’t buy that at all.

Dawson was given captaincy for a reason. Tex has experience and leadership in spades. Both are performing at AA level, leaders by example. I’d even argue Crouch’s experience is more valuable if he keeps playing like he has the past few weeks.

And the notion that he should be a super sub next year is baffling too, to me a sub should be someone young and speedy. The reasons certain people provide to justify another contract are just too flimsy.

Sloane’s output in my opinion has literally contributed to incredibly costly losses towards the back end of the season. Him starting in the midfield just disrupts the harmony, he isn’t a four quarter player anymore.

I don’t begrudge the players for enjoying playing with him if they do, but surely they know and can see what they’re capable of without him by now.

Other than the knitting needle brigade, no one will care if Sloane is forced to retire Club did the same thing with Lynch, DMac, Talia etc... We need to be smart with list spots next year.

 

[GROTTO]

Other than the knitting needle brigade,

They are the ones that will throw the apricots and knitting needles at the Club.

Then when dementia sets in January of 2024, it will be Rory Who?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Same crapola, different thread.

At least it would quarantine in the 1 place.

I don't read that thread too often because of the nastiness towards him.

 

[rabidcrow]

I found that text absolutely cringe, Rory has no right whatsoever to dictate when he retires - he's been a good player hes not what I would classify as a club great.

Smith's response was fine, he's hardly going to say 'yeah we need to bin him off'.

Of course he is a club great. Top 25 of all time I would think


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