Review Round 10, 2020 - Brisbane Lions vs. Richmond

[AFLQLD]

There were three lessons we were taught here:

1. Goal kicking has to improve. It really is that simple. We get opportunities but don’t hurt the opposition. Against weaker teams we don’t get punished by poor goal kicking as much. Against the best we do.

2. Richmond’s game is built around cutting off the run and turning it over quickly with options everywhere. That was the story of the game. They get control, spread quickly and find targets. They ran the ball into an open forward line. We kicked ours into congestion in our forward line. We have to learn from this. They are too well drilled to do anything but go in quickly. The slow work up the boundary is what they love. Sooner or later they will bring the ball to ground, or intercept and immediately go into fast attack mode.

3. High intensity for long periods is something we are going to have to learn. At the moment we do it for about 20% of game time. Richmond do it for 50% and it means they get control and then just run their system: cut off the ball movement > intercept > spread fast > go forward to targets > goal. Rinse and repeat.

Let’s not crucify young players early in their careers. If anything, they just had a lesson they won’t forget quickly about the standard they need to get to. Lots of players are tired, let’s cut them a little slack. None of them were passengers but they were overwhelmed by the benchmark team.

Ultimately this is a lesson we need to have at this stage of development. We have to learn to control the game even when things are tough. We need to keep giving young guys a chance knowing they will mess up a fair bit but we need to build depth and experience still.

There is going to be a time when these last few experiences against Richmond will stand us in good stead. Every one of our players has been taught something tonight.

 

[Scubaveg]

Surely Dev comes in next week - there’s no way he’d be worse than CEY. What’s the point in playing him if he’s rarely winning any ball, and when he does it’s always a hack kick that goes 20 metres. He literally offers nothing around the ground

Why not give Lyons a run and see how he goes at the top level. Been in the list long enough, dominates at resssie level. Let’s see if he’s got it or not.


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[jackess]

Jed adcock should be sacked

 

[thedaz]

Hipwood needs to go to the gym and quickly put on 10kgs around his shoulders. He gets bowled over any time the opposition breathe on him.

Very hard to give any votes tonight.

 

[Gav Man]

Not sure if anyone saw this (I know the commentators missed it), in the last play of the day Riewoldt lead/kicked out with his foot whilst staying on the ground and Harris walked away limping. I think Jack has some history of doing this! Will the AFL do anything to the Golden Child?

 

[davemc_lions]

Hipwood needs to go to the gym and quickly put on 10kgs around his shoulders. He gets bowled over any time the opposition breathe on him.

Very hard to give any votes tonight.

something up with hipwood.. not bouncing around like he normally is
Wonder if he carrying something. Fell over a lot tonight

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Negatives. Shots on goal. Literally only negative.

It literally wasn't the only negative. Our boys were screwing up basic field kicks.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

I don’t like bagging our own but there’s a reason we persist with what we have in the seniors and whats proven to work best for us and why some have been kept in the reserves.

Just because you as a supporter you want them to be a senior footballer and they look like they could be, doesn’t mean they are cut out for it. Our coaches know best.

I'd argue we haven't proven anything

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Time for Zorko to hand over the captaincy as well. Can't have an immature person leading the club

 

[Scubaveg]

Richmond are unbelievable at stopping our run through the corridor. Did exactly the same in the finals series.

And continue to get loose over the back against us as well. It’s nauseating.


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[CarterS]

That Skinner miss was top 3 misses I've ever seen. Just horrendous.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

An apology would be ridiculous but it would be somewhat soothing for Fagan to acknowledge how much that sort of goalkicking effort really ******* sucks for fans.

That was a really unenjoyable 2 and a bit hours.

Yeh my border collie gave me that look , like he reads my tone and cowers as he looks at me sideways.
Thank goodness he's there to pat .
Nothing too positive to say about our game tonight , big O for one I'd say. Our team wow Poor tackling, goal kicking and kicking in general.
The stand out is too many slow moving talls for us, and we are f...d when Rich goes.
Better find someone to take over Witho aint it.
Maybe our depth is not as good as the talk says.
The four day break imo is no excuse, we wasted a lot of energy tonight, that was the reason.

 

[TheZork]

I don’t like bagging our own but there’s a reason we persist with what we have in the seniors and whats proven to work best for us and why some have been kept in the reserves.

Just because you as a supporter you want them to be a senior footballer and they look like they could be, doesn’t mean they are cut out for it. Our coaches know best.

This is a really good point. I think its become pretty clear why we've kept the 22 the same for most of the year. The coaches aren't wrong.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Jed adcock should be sacked

I tend to agree.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

Actually don't believe that, just frustration talking

 

[Berry Picker]

Anyone notice how bad the condition of the ground was tonight, alot of guys slipping over.

Not sure if the AFL really took it account how much wear and tear on the ground will result when your playing on it 4 times a week

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I don’t like bagging our own but there’s a reason we persist with what we have in the seniors and whats proven to work best for us and why some have been kept in the reserves.

Just because you as a supporter you want them to be a senior footballer and they look like they could be, doesn’t mean they are cut out for it. Our coaches know best.

What many people were calling for was these young players to be blooded against garbage teams like Adelaide, so that they wouldn't be playing their first game against the defending premiers who are in form.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Hipwood needs to go to the gym and quickly put on 10kgs around his shoulders. He gets bowled over any time the opposition breathe on him.

Very hard to give any votes tonight.

How many times did he slip over tonight at the crucial moment. Was he playing in his Dunlop Volleys?

 

[martinson]

All went as expected I suppose.

I know they're a protected species but I seriously question our coaching decisions into this game.

Self evident we needed to rest more players.

We went in way too tall.

I'll leave it to better football brains than me to explain but why when we break away from the M/F/wing do we go short to a 1 on 1 or worse when the forward 30m is free and we have players running towards it .

We've been doing it for so long now I'm sure it must be a coaching instruction. In my view it's dumb.

Apart from that proud of the way the boys threw themselves in tonight . I've been defending Hippy but he needs to stop squeeling for frees ,falling over and get up when he falls over and make a second effort .

Overall we were just tired and that was reflected in our kicking. Let's hope it doesn't hinder us too much this week.

Best Neale , Ah Chee, McInerny

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Not to make excuses but:

• 74 games Ave experience
• Missing 6 of our best 22
• Down a rotation
• First gamer on a 640 goal forward
• 22.5 Ave age in defence
• Crazy bad luck in front of goals - fatigue and yips a factor
• Four day break v six day break
• Old players clearly struggled

The perfect storm.

We are going to win so many games in the next 10 years! And finals too! Let's go!!!

 

[Milux]

It literally wasn't the only negative. Our boys were screwing up basic field kicks.

Yeh that did get annoying. Fair call.

 

[topend]

Witho was pretty poor tonight. Nothing glaring but if your only weapon is kicking, you can’t turn the ball over in dangerous areas.

Mitch Robbo is flying under the radar. Been pretty off the pace and is complaining about the umpiring more than contributing.
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Yep the mouth guard incident last week and thatS it, he complains all the time about the umpires.
Thought he did alright tidying up in the back line in the latter half of the game. Far from our worst.

 

[TheZork]

Should we consider going a collingwood style forward line? Our keys aint it. Once Martin is back we could play O and McStay up forward and thats it. I just feel like we're 3 players down with Hipwood, Ballenden and Skinner.

 

[Dylan12]

Time for Zorko to hand over the captaincy as well. Can't have an immature person leading the club

I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but for some reason it does annoy me that our 'captain' always wants to play the class clown.

Just captain the bloody club and learn to kick captain's goals.

 

[Zhesty]

Thought Ah Chee, Gardiner, Lyons, Neale and McCarthy were our best. Poor kicking definitely hurt us but it wasn't the difference, they were just better tonight.

I wish posters would take it easy on young players and not be so quick to either label a young player as a future star or a complete dud. That's not how it works, players take time and will have their ups and downs. Get behind them and enjoy the ride.

Also, don't agree with the idea that we should have rested more players and given this game away. No doubt the boys would've been keen to play the Tigers and resting too many players, and basically indicating we were happy to lose this one, would have sent a terrible message to a young group.

It's not all doom and gloom, we will be better for it. I think people need to lower their expectations a little bit and just reflect on how far we've come in such a short period.