Preview Round 10 2020, Richmond vs Brisbane Lions, Metricon Stadium, Tuesday 4th August

[Dalions]

You realise we came off a 4 day break against the dogs, we also dont have the luxury of training at our home ground or even sleeping in our own beds and our players not being with there family's in there own environment ? That said, should be a cracker and nice preview

And???
How do you get a 4 day turn around from a Friday night game to a Wednesday night game???

 

[M Malice]

I could get used to watching our beloved Lions every 4 days, how about a 34 round season in 2021?

 

[3KZ is Football]

Back in the day the Lions used to play on Saturday, have an Escort Cup Match on the Tuesday and back up for another game on the next Saturday and win all three. Three games in seven days! Admittedly the players didn't do as much running, but there was more body contact and none of this 90 rotations off the bench and days of dedicated pampering after games that players get today. Time to toughen up!

#Over50’sClique

 

[jjami15]

I feel ill saying it but I would make wide spread changes. Get them fresh for Dogs and blow them off the park. If we were to come out of this stretch winning 3 and dropping 1 then I would take it. Then again after seeing the likes of Witherden and Answerth and how hungry they were then add ins might also be and we will smash the tigers, right?!

 

[Ironmonger]

You realise we came off a 4 day break against the dogs, we also dont have the luxury of training at our home ground or even sleeping in our own beds and our players not being with there family's in there own environment ? That said, should be a cracker and nice preview

Good points, and its always good to have respectful opposition supporters on our preview thread.

On the bolded point, is it a little bit clearer now why non-Victorian clubs have felt a bit miffed in the past, that they have to deal with those factors many more times in a regular season than Victorian clubs?

 

[TheByeRound]

Witherden had an insane game on the weekend. Do you reckon it had anything to do with Rich being out?
Can you see him staying around when rich comes back?

 

[Harris Specter]

Good points, and its always good to have respectful opposition supporters on our preview thread.

On the bolded point, is it a little bit clearer now why non-Victorian clubs have felt a bit miffed in the past, that they have to deal with those factors many more times in a regular season than Victorian clubs?

Don't let facts get in the way come on!

Richmond are a hard done by club, they are being brave and selfless by moving up to Queensland.

 

[Dylan12]

You realise we came off a 4 day break against the dogs, we also dont have the luxury of training at our home ground or even sleeping in our own beds and our players not being with there family's in there own environment ? That said, should be a cracker and nice preview

Since when is Metricon Stadium on the Gold Coast Brisbane's home ground?

Still haven't gotten over the fact you aren't playing 18 home games at the MCG Kardinia Park in Geelong each year, you know your home ground because it is in the same state.

 

[Dylan12]

Richmond are a hard done by club, they are being brave and selfless by moving up to Queensland.

And even harder on the players partners having to attend luxury day spas and their kids running around the theme parks because they're doing it so tough.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

What I’ve found from trawling the various boards, are that the Vic teams supporters, are by and large, much more obnoxious than the non Victorian supporters.

With the possible exception of North supporters, who have a massive chip and/or inferiority/persecution complex. But also have one or two major trolls.

That's the impression I get too. I find I can stand the fans of smaller Vic teams better than the bigger ones, although Bulldogs fans seem to have got very big for their boots in the last few years.

Witherden had an insane game on the weekend. Do you reckon it had anything to do with Rich being out?
Can you see him staying around when rich comes back?

I think it very much had to do with Rich being out, so Witherden could play in his role. And I think he gets dropped for Rich, unless we're playing a team that doesn't have a mobile forward line. Need enough speed and size back there.

 

[Brett C]

Witherden had an insane game on the weekend. Do you reckon it had anything to do with Rich being out?
Can you see him staying around when rich comes back?

If he keeps playing like that he'll get a game every week no matter who's available. Witho has always had plenty of talent just needs to work on a few things which it looks like he has.

It's only one game but I'd say it's his best game for us by a large margin.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

That's the impression I get too. I find I can stand the fans of smaller Vic teams better than the bigger ones, although Bulldogs fans seem to have got very big for their boots in the last few years.


I think it very much had to do with Rich being out, so Witherden could play in his role. And I think he gets dropped for Rich, unless we're playing a team that doesn't have a mobile forward line. Need enough speed and size back there.

I don't think Rich will be back this week , as we all anticipate.
The following game which is just this saturday, I think birch might have a break, and that's witho's spot right there if Rich comes back.
Matho's inclusion , wouldn't mind it , but who comes out , he's not a wing man or back , more of an onballer and cey has just come back.
Maybe if Bez pulls up sore , then matho could jump in.
Will be good to see another week from Skinner.
Balladen , not sure at this stage, few questions still.

 

[Ceebee]

Should win this

 

[3KZ is Football]

Here's an article with more Stats / Comparative Tables. I think we stack up very well on paper and form. We just have to have our heads and kicking boots on right.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...o-s-firing-who-s-flopped-20200730-p55h24.html

 

[RichLeMonde]

And even harder on the players partners having to attend luxury day spas and their kids running around the theme parks because they're doing it so tough.

Was wondering how long it would take for this to come up lol. As soon as a Tiges supporter mentioned the hub situation I was counting down from 20 in my head.

 

[RichLeMonde]

On the bolded point, is it a little bit clearer now why non-Victorian clubs have felt a bit miffed in the past, that they have to deal with those factors many more times in a regular season than Victorian clubs?

Not really, no. You deal with those factors more than Vic teams, but you also play oppo teams who are dealing with those factors more, to literally the exact same extent, unlike Vic teams whose Vic opponents are nicely rested etc etc.

 

[Harris Specter]

Not really, no. You deal with those factors more than Vic teams, but you also play oppo teams who are dealing with those factors more, to literally the exact same extent, unlike Vic teams whose Vic opponents are nicely rested etc etc.

What are you even talking about?

Do we need to go back to your 9 games in a row at the MCG last year?
We haven't had a home game in the last 6 rounds because the Victorian teams complained of an advantage.

 

[Ironmonger]

Not really, no. You deal with those factors more than Vic teams, but you also play oppo teams who are dealing with those factors more, to literally the exact same extent, unlike Vic teams whose Vic opponents are nicely rested etc etc.

That misrepresents the issue. I don't see what difference it makes whether the team we played on a Saturday evening has to sleep in a hotel or in their own bed later that night. But apparently it has some sort of sustained effect, or else we wouldn't hear about it so much.

This year, of course. We never, ever hear anything about it any other year.

We Brisbane fans just have to put our hands up and acknowledge that circumstances mean we get a much easier time of it this year than some other clubs.

And Richmond fans should probably acknowledge that in ordinary circumstances they get a slightly easier time of it in all other years than some other clubs.

 

[blackers]

What I’ve found from trawling the various boards, are that the Vic teams supporters, are by and large, much more obnoxious than the non Victorian supporters.

As a Victorian Lions supporter, I can see why the average Victorian AFL supporter wouldn't know much about the Lions. We are rarely on in primetime or on free to air so they never see us play. When we beat a Victorian team, the newspaper's match report is usually about how the Victorian team played, and when we play another non-Victorian team, they'll just do a little mini-match report with almost no detail at all. This is why Victorians will still argue about things like whether Harris Andrews is better than Darcy Moore, because they see one of them every week and the other hardly at all. Against Melbourne last week, you could tell that even Bruce and BT didn't know much about the Lions - they clearly hadn't seen Birchall play this year.

 

[blackers]

Mr Ripper wisely said years ago that people shouldn’t get lulled into feeling sorry for Richmond’s fans during their premiership drought because he knew how pathologically awful they are at handling success.

I feel the same about Carlton's (slight) resurgence this year. May they stay down on the canvas for as long as possible.

 

[blackers]

Most obnoxious fan base, evidenced as last year at the Gabba. Even Collingwood fans are better.

Big call!

 

[Marcel Proust]

Things I've learnt from the Richmond preview thread:
1. They're in our heads so they've basically won already...
2. ...but we are the cocky ones.
3. Neale is not worth tagging, sure he gets 51 possessions but what does he do with them?
4. Charlie's barely worth worrying about, any of their defenders can handle him.
5. Our mids are all little and soft.
6. Metricon is our home ground.
Well, they certainly seem to have our number.
This is what I love about Bigfooty, it reminds you how awful your next opponent's supporters are.

worst 51 possession game ever

 

[RichLeMonde]

What are you even talking about?

Do we need to go back to your 9 games in a row at the MCG last year?
We haven't had a home game in the last 6 rounds because the Victorian teams complained of an advantage.

What am I talking about? You guys complained that in normal circumstances, you play more games than Vic clubs do where you are sleeping a strange bed, have travelled etc. My point is that, whatever advantage that confers, you get to experience more of in reverse as well, given that you play more home games where your opponents have travelled, slept in a strange bed etc. It can't be a disadvantage when you're travelling (which you do more than Vics), but somehow not the same advantage when your opponents are doing the travelling (which occurs more for you than for Vic teams). It is mathematically and logically exactly equal. You get more games with true HGA and you also play more games where your opponents get more true HGA. Vics travel less (playing other Vics) and, to the exact same extent, their opponents (other Vics) travel less.

Ah, it was 7 MCG games - are you forgetting the final we beat you in was in Brisbane? And anyway, let me ask you something - if Richmond had lost their early season interstate games in Perth, Adelaide (I won't even count the GC game), and lost to Sydney, North, and St Kilda at Marvel (i.e. lost our non-MCG games), and arrived at the end of round 16 with a 4-11 record (instead of our actual 9-6 record), would you have been complaining about our run of 'G games to close out the season? Or quiety celebrating that our peculiar draw had knocked us out of finals contention? It only turned into a good draw because we won our early games in a massive run away from the 'G (when we were decimated by injury) - otherwise it would have turned out to be a diabolical draw.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Not really, no. You deal with those factors more than Vic teams, but you also play oppo teams who are dealing with those factors more, to literally the exact same extent, unlike Vic teams whose Vic opponents are nicely rested etc etc.

So playing 13 games at the MCG and 4 at Marvel in 2019 was made ever so much more onerous for the Tiges because your Vic opponents didn't have to travel either. That is the best spin put on the Victorian teams' home state advantage I have heard in a long long time.

 

[Dalions]

Seems a strange argument for you Richmond supporters to make considering your team has performed better since moving to Qld than they were whilst in Melbourne this year.
Maybe they were happy to get away from their families?