Preview Round 12, 2024: West Coast v St.Kilda - Optus Stadium - Saturday 1st June, 4.35pm AEST

[phantom13]

Are you suggesting our direction isn’t clear P13?

Is probably me, I’m not terribly bright

 

[Yawkey way]

I reckon Lance would have touched the ball <10 times in the last weeks including vfl.

Does it with style though. Seriously I know he hasn’t shown much so far but this kid will be a ripper imo.

 

[tomjoad]

Yeah it's all very well to say we should be playing more of the kids but they need to show enough form to warrant selection.

There is no point just picking young players for the sake of it if their form doesn't warrant it as we saw recently with Collard.

If older players like Membrey and Clark are showing better form in the VFL than younger players they still deserve to be picked.

Selection integrity and making players earn their spots is still important regardless of whether you are contending or rebuilding.
.

Agree with this. I'm all for playing the young 'uns, in fact, I want the kids played as much as possible...but they also need to be managed a little, and there also needs to be standards as to what's required. If a 1/2 to 2/3 of the kids get around 7 - 10 games each this year, then we're doing well. Just need to keep filtering them in.
The penny will drop eventually. Not this year, but eventually.

 

[Cairnsman]

Surely the team getting picked puts paid to the 10 year rebuild crew now?

Why on Earth play those guys if were bottoming out and raiding the draft for the next 3-4 years.

How many words are you up to now?

 

[Broski]

Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

injured and won’t play.

 

[jimmytigs]

Tim Kelly injured and won’t play.

well at the very least we wont repeat the great disgrace from a few seasons ago,when 4 of the big 6 at the time redden yeo shuey and sheed all missed,leaving naitanui kelly and gaff who doesnt get his own ball,kelly proceeded to totally tear axx like he came with his own ball,even i could have had a team plan that day to stop 1 player

round 17 2020

 

[EddieMurphy]

Bytel in for the Pies, interesting to see how he goes. The new Blacres maybe

 

[TheJackal]

Whilst I'm surprised Crouch didn't come in, it's potentially a smart play given his injury history. He was rushed back in round 1 and it wrecked him for months. If the flight followed by the intensity of an AFL match is considered too much of a risk I'm ok with it.

As for questions of a rift between Ross and the team I definitely don't believe that. The players are struggling and frustrated, but I don't see any discontent towards the coach.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I wonder if they will have any one who can run with Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

?

 

[SG34]

Is RTB a gambling’ man?

We are now favorites!

The tables have turned!!

WC were favorites until yesterday!!’

Trickery?

 

[Plugger35]

well at the very least we wont repeat the great disgrace from a few seasons ago,when 4 of the big 6 at the time redden yeo shuey and sheed all missed,leaving naitanui kelly and gaff who doesnt get his own ball,kelly proceeded to totally tear axx like he came with his own ball,even i could have had a team plan that day to stop 1 player

round 17 2020

Yeah he tore us a new one in that game and he usually plays well against us so him out for this game definitely helps our chances.

I still wouldn't have us favourites though.

 

[The_Steadier]

Why on Earth play those guys if were bottoming out and raiding the draft for the next 3-4 years.

Because it doesn't matter if we play our experienced guys or our kids.

Our midfield is putrid and our skills are below average even IF we play our most experienced players.

Playing the likes of butler instead of collard and membrey ahead of hammer isn't shifting the dial anywhere away from bottom 4.

We can tank without playing the kids.

 

[kernelT]

How many words are you up to now?

You're still a dick, something we can always count on.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Does it with style though. Seriously I know he hasn’t shown much so far but this kid will be a ripper imo.

Hope so.
Needs to go back to Sandy and absolutely tear me a new one.
Hope he does.

 

[Cairnsman]

You're still a dick, something we can always count on.

Who's this we? Is there a new gang?
Sound exciting, how do we get into your gang?

 

[Mat Mann]

This is effectively the truth. Amazing in hindsight. If you'd taken Sinclair at #3 you wouldn't be unhappy (although no one compares to the Bont).

the bloke taken at 13 is pretty close

 

[Teflon]

Clark, going nowhere as his best mate LDU is seriously looking at coming to us.


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Is that just guesswork or based on some inside knowledge ?
I miss Stav..

 

[Premium]

Is that just guesswork or based on some inside knowledge ?
I miss Stav..

LDU could well come to us knowing being at Nth now would be terrible and St Kilda would be a great place to move due to he will not have much competition in the midfield here.

 

[Banger9798]

I wonder if they will have any one who can run with Hunter Clark?

Is Cliff Young still alive?

 

[hayes]

The way Lyon has sucked the life out of the playing group, I doubt if we will win another game this season, no matter how much he juggles players around.

Unfortunately this is the reality. The ins and outs are irrelevant, nobody can play well in this crap system. One thing I am looking forward to though is pick 3.

 

[Premium]

Unfortunately this is the reality. The ins and outs are irrelevant, nobody can play well in this crap system. One thing I am looking forward to though is pick 3.

Really think we can win this one - a lot of players will be trying to show something.
With the negativity surrounding the team atm we need a win - we lose this / heads will or should roll.
If Ratten was sacked because he couldn't get the best out of the team and we drop to 16th - Basset needs the sack

 

[True Believer]

Is Cliff Young still alive?

No, but that is potentially not a barrier.......

 

[PJays]

As I've said before, Champion Data claim that West Coast are playing like a top 4 side at home and a bottom side away. If we can snatch a win there we will have done well.

That's a tiny sample size of 5 games at Perth Stadium where they've gone 3-2 with a percentage of around 110.

Question is whether they continue that for the remainder of the season. Very unlikely I think.

Interestingly Tim Kelly out and Saints into very slight favouritism at $1.88 to West Coast $1.96

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Very difficult to predict what will unfold later today. Feels like the team is on a bit of a hiding to nothing. Win and we've only beaten the lowly Eagles, lose and we have to put up with Kane Cornes and Saintbloke all week.

 

[Saintbloke]

Very difficult to predict what will unfold later today. Feels like the team is on a bit of a hiding to nothing. Win and we've only beaten the lowly Eagles, lose and we have to put up with Kane Cornes and Saintbloke all week.

If it deserves to be kicked, then kick it.