Preview Round 12, 2024: West Coast v St.Kilda - Optus Stadium - Saturday 1st June, 4.35pm AEST

[dudeintheswamp]

If it deserves to be kicked, then kick it.

Yep we've been very hard to watch the last two months. Can't really see too much changing today unfortunately.

 

[Cairnsman]

It's flawed logic to argue our current performance should be leveraged off our finish on the ladder postion in 2023. The reason why we won't be playing finals this year are because Lyon has taken the deliberate decision to rebuild and as such the player profile is under constant development.

Collingwood and Brisbane are both sliding because their player profiles are significantly different this season. In the case of Brisbane their whole balance was thrown out from the loss of one player in R1. These two teams perfectly illustrate how even the smallest of change in player profiles can have significant impact to remaining a top 4 and/or flag contender.

Now consider that example with a bottom to middle of the ladder team like us who are rebuilding meaning not only are there constant player changes, the changes are mostly introducing kids or new recruits, so the side is constantly far from settled and far from having adapted to all that needs to be adapted to.

It's a flawed argument to reference our 6th position on the ladder in 2023. And that's without even introducing the argument we overachieved last year.

 

[gringo2011]

Really think we can win this one - a lot of players will be trying to show something.
With the negativity surrounding the team atm we need a win - we lose this / heads will or should roll.
If Ratten was sacked because he couldn't get the best out of the team and we drop to 16th - Basset needs the sack

West Coast have beat Freo, Melbourne, Tigers and lost to Essendon by a goal and Sydney by 26 points in Perth. They are absolutely uncompetitive away from there by this will take our best to win.

That said I think you're right about the Saints, we will be going after this as a scalp to save face after a pretty serious amount of criticism. Guys like Steele would like their time again after embarrassing effort at times last week. His match review session wouldn't have been much fun for him.

 

[gringo2011]

It's flawed logic to argue our current performance should be leveraged off our finish on the ladder postion in 2023. The reason why we won't be playing finals this year are because Lyon has taken the deliberate decision to rebuild and as such the player profile is under constant development.

Collingwood and Brisbane are both sliding because their player profiles are significantly different this season. In the case of Brisbane their whole balance was thrown out from the loss of one player in R1. These two teams perfectly illustrate how even the smallest of change in player profiles can have significant impact to remaining a top 4 and/or flag contender.

Now consider that example with a bottom to middle of the ladder team like us who are rebuilding meaning not only are there constant player changes, the changes are mostly introducing kids or new recruits, so the side is constantly far from settled and far from having adapted to all that needs to be adapted to.

It's a flawed argument to reference our 6th position on the ladder in 2023. And that's without even introducing the argument we overachieved last year.

The sad thing is I don't think it was deliberate. We had lots go against us and the wheels fell off. Once you lose confidence and momentum it's easier to go backwards than forwards. Doesn't define where you are at though. Essendon, Bulldogs, Sydney and Geelong all finished lower than us last year.