Preview Round 13 2020 - Brisbane Lions vs St Kilda, GABBA, Sunday August 23 3:35pm

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Brisbane Lions (2nd) Vs St Kilda (5th)
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Overview

Well well well. Past Biggies put his hand up to do this one at the start the of the year thinking it would be a nice and easy relaxing preview. “Which Preview could I write in 5 minutes to quickly sum up a Brisbane win” I thought. “Which GABBA game will Charlie kick a bag and Neale collect another casual 3 Brownlow votes? I know, how about the cruisey 2nd vs 14th match” (2019 ladder).

Well don’t I look like a fool of a took now. From what originally looked like a comfortable win going into the start of the year is now setting itself up beautifully to be an absolute game to watch. Two good attacking teams that like to move the footy quickly. A Butler up one end and a Charlie up the other, a Steele and a Neale in the middle, a Jones and Clug running up the wings and two (in my opinion) excellent coaches (both ex-Hawthorn assistants) fighting it out for a top 4 spot in 2020.

This one just feels like its going to be fun to watch. Fast paced, attacking footy is on the menu. Lets just hope we have the great man Anthony Huddo calling it (please god hear me now no Eddie) and we can comfortably set up for a long day on the couch with a nice hot cuppa - all ready to launch into a Sunday arvo special.


Saints Last Five (4W – 1L)

  • Saints Defeated Port 73 -44
  • Saints Defeated Swans 101 – 48
  • Saints Defeated Suns 78 – 74
  • Cats Defeated Saints 93 – 34
  • Saints Defeated Bombers 69 – 33


Key Players in Doubt?




Lions
  • Adams (Foot)
  • Martin (Back)
  • Smith (Ankle)
  • Cameron (Knee) - Maybe?/Maybe not?
Saints
  • Brown (Leave)
  • Dunston (Pecs)
  • Hannebery (Hamstring)
  • Gresham (Back)
  • Webster (Hamstring)


Who to watch

Jack Steele

What a year Steele is having. He’s gone from playing as a defensive lock down tagger to now growing into a genuine damaging mid of the comp. Averaging nearly 22 touches and 11 contested a game its really his tackling and pressure acts which hurt the opposition most in the middle. 5.7 tackles a game place him in the elite category across the competition.

Dan Butler
In the words of BT Boy oh Boy Wowee what a year. Or alternatively for us lions fans aka Dan Cutler - Butler is possibly the most in-form small forward of the comp and arguably currently playing better footy then both Charlie Cameron and Tom Papley at the moment. Averaging just under 2 goals a game (which puts him third in the Coleman race) and 4.5 tackles Dan has absolutely gone to the next level in 2020. Butler is one of the big reasons for the saints increased success this year, and even with that shocker of a haircut his finishing in front of goal is absolutely….




Rowan Marshall and the rest of the Big Guys
I’m a big fan of this guy. Originally off the rookie list Marshall works very hard around the ground. Reminds me of a younger (and probably slightly better) Stef Martin. And he can float forward from time to time and kick the odd goal. AFL player ratings rate him as the 4th best ruck in the comp (behind Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein) so we can expect Oscar to have his hands full around the ground all game.

Along with Marshall, Paddy Ryder is also playing some good footy this year with the two forming a good 1-2 punch offensive team. Even with Oscars excellent mid-season form, I can’t help but feel this will be one game that having Stef Martin missing will hurt us. Not just for the general wear and tear of two ruckman competing against a single recognized ruck (one and a half if you count Eagles) throughout the day but also for that long high ball and contest down the line. But you throw in an in-form Max King and a Tim Membrey (who in my opinion is very much an underrated forward) and the saints really do have some talented talls to keep us busy around the ground. The way Harris, Oscar and Mcstay compete deep along the wings against the Saints tall's will be a fascinating viewing point throughout the game.


Team Stats




Here is the part where I was hoping to pick apart each team’s game plan a little more and see where the key differences in ball movement lie. But when I found myself looking through all the major categories I ultimately found a lot of similarities between the Lions and Saints and very few key differences to suggest where one team might out-performing the other. For example just to name a few:


Av. One Percenters: Lions 41.1, Saints 41.7

Av. Uncontested Possessions: Lions 160.9, Saints 172.9

Av. Contested Possessions: Lions 118.8, Saints 119

Av. Tackles: Lions 51.6, Saints 48.9

Av. Clearances: Lions 31.8, Saints 30.5


The inside 50s were slightly more in our favor with the Lions averaging about 7 more entries per game (Lions 47.2, Saints 40.8) but even the gap there isn’t really a game determining one. But I did find one category which clearly separate the two teams in 2020 and surprise surprise Lions fans its Goal Accuracy.

Saints are the most accurate scoring team this year scoring goals from 53.1% of shots. Lions (unsurprisingly) are dead last on 41.1%. We average more behinds per game than anyone else (12.1) and twice as many as the saints. We all know this. We’ve all cursed our TV at times during the year while watching a simple Charlie Cameron, Dan McStay or Eric Hipwood missed opportunity. But those numbers show a pretty stark difference over just half a season or so between the two teams.




On the plus side, the Lions do average the most shots on goals per game in the comp. We just need to take our chances more.

But what these stats really tell me is that the saints are a genuinely good team in 2020. To be honest, at times I have been a little unsure whether or not the Saints current ladder position really reflects where the team is truly at (as a genuine finals team and contender), or if maybe they’ve just had a little bit of luck on the field (and at times with team fitness) and are really more of a mid-table team over performing in 2020. There might be a little element of truth in both these points, however I’m feeling more and more confident saying that at their best the Saints are an exciting and explosive team that can score very quickly and punish you. If these teams stats tell us anything about what to expect on the weekend, it’s that if we don’t turn up to play and take this Saint Kilda outfit very seriously, they will punish us and kick away before we even know it. Lions need to respond after a very poor game on the weekend. If we put in another North Melbourne-like effort, then this game will be over by half time.


Lets Go a Little Deeper - Lets Talk About the Saints Scoring

I came across this little goal kicking nugget on the internet last week. “Where did you get it from Biggies? Is this true?” Great questions I hear you ask. And the truth is I found it somewhere on twitter and as we know - the internet never lies. So clearly this infographic music be true! Now enough with the questions, I'm trying to make a point.


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If we ignore the Saints v Bombers game for now (as I don’t have those stats on hand) we can see here a clear blueprint as to how the cats (comfortably) put away the saints two weeks ago. Saints are a team that punish you on turnover, they run in waves and flood forward with ball in hand. They get as many numbers inside 50 as quickly as they can, overwhelm the defenders, play hopscotch with ball in hand and can kick a lot of goals from 10-20 meters out by a man sitting on his own in the square (or close too). The cats knew this and did a great job of stopping it. They didn’t allow easy shots (or open goals) from up close and this is what we must be do on the weekend to beat the saints. Get back quickly, set up, block the hole and not let Butler, Battle, Membrey, Billings etc run in and kick simple goals from the square. This may also feed back into as to why their goal accuracy is so high in 2020.



Predictions

Like most games of footy these days a lot will determine what happens in the middle. But I can’t help but feel our inside ball winning mids (Neale, Zorko, Lyons) will just be too strong for the saints. We should win the contested ball in this game. But what happens on the outside might be a different story. Saints are a good linking ball transition team and we will need to stop their uncontested ball movement up the wing by locking down on players like Jones, Hill, Billings etc.

The other key point for me is how the Saints score. The saints forward line is dangerous with a lot of players capable of hitting a major including Butler, King, Membrey, Kent, Battle and Billings just to name a few. If we let them take simple shots close to goal they will score fast and score big. If we can block that hole (maybe even play Harris as a loose intercepting man), flood that deep defense position and force then to take more difficult shots further out and on sharper angles, they will find it a lot harder to kick a winning score in this game. I want to see a lot of spoils this weekend and the golden fist in action.




So when I make a Lions prediction, I really have no idea if I’m making a call using my head or my heart. Maybe it’s because I know our team inside out but only watch a handful of Saints games each year. Last week I was feeling confident that the saints will put up a fight throughout the game but our class through the middle will just be a little too much for their on-ball team to handle. Today (after a slow, flat footed poor game on the weekend) I’m not feeling as sure. I think it will be close, fast exciting footy to watch but which lions team turns up we’ll just have to wait and see. Ultimately if we can limit Butlers influence up forward, Jones’s line-breaking speed around the ground and stop the bigger Saints bodies taking the uncontested intercept mark down the line, we should win it. And to be honest, if we are a legitimate finals team this year, we probably should win this game by 3-4 goals.

But Saints are not to be taken lightly. And of course there’s always the chance the worst goal kicking team of the comp comes out and kicks another 4-17 this weekend. So anything is possible.

But I will leave you with a famous ancient Chinese proverb to sum up this games preview.

“Shut down Butler and your football team shall win.” – Confucius 490 BC.
 
Brisbane Lions (2nd) Vs St Kilda (5th)
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Overview

Well well well. Past Biggies put his hand up to do this one at the start the of the year thinking it would be a nice and easy relaxing preview. “Which Preview could I write in 5 minutes to quickly sum up a Brisbane win” I thought. “Which GABBA game will Charlie kick a bag and Neale collect another casual 3 Brownlow votes? I know, how about the cruisey 2nd vs 14th match” (2019 ladder).

Well don’t I look like a fool of a took now. From what originally looked like a comfortable win going into the start of the year is now setting itself up beautifully to be an absolute game to watch. Two good attacking teams that like to move the footy quickly. A Butler up one end and a Charlie up the other, a Steele and a Neale in the middle, a Jones and Clug running up the wings and two (in my opinion) excellent coaches (both ex-Hawthorn assistants) fighting it out for a top 4 spot in 2020.

This one just feels like its going to be fun to watch. Fast paced, attacking footy is on the menu. Lets just hope we have the great man Anthony Huddo calling it (please god hear me now no Eddie) and we can comfortably set up for a long day on the couch with a nice hot cuppa - all ready to launch into a Sunday arvo special.


Saints Last Five (4W – 1L)


  • Saints Defeated Port 73 -44
  • Saints Defeated Swans 101 – 48
  • Saints Defeated Suns 78 – 74
  • Cats Defeated Saints 93 – 34
  • Saints Defeated Bombers 69 – 33


Key Players in Doubt?



Lions
  • Adams (Foot)
  • Martin (Back)
  • Smith (Ankle)
  • Cameron (Knee) - Maybe?/Maybe not?
Saints
  • Brown (Leave)
  • Dunston (Pecs)
  • Hannebery (Hamstring)
  • Gresham (Back)
  • Webster (Hamstring)


Who to watch

Jack Steele

What a year Steele is having. He’s gone from playing as a defensive lock down tagger to now growing into a genuine damaging mid of the comp. Averaging nearly 22 touches and 11 contested a game its really his tackling and pressure acts which hurt the opposition most in the middle. 5.7 tackles a game place him in the elite category across the competition.

Dan Butler
In the words of BT Boy oh Boy Wowee what a year. Or alternatively for us lions fans aka Dan Cutler - Butler is possibly the most in-form small forward of the comp and arguably currently playing better footy then both Charlie Cameron and Tom Papley at the moment. Averaging just under 2 goals a game (which puts him third in the Coleman race) and 4.5 tackles Dan has absolutely gone to the next level in 2020. Butler is one of the big reasons for the saints increased success this year, and even with that shocker of a haircut his finishing in front of goal is absolutely….




Rowan Marshall and the rest of the Big Guys
I’m a big fan of this guy. Originally off the rookie list Marshall works very hard around the ground. Reminds me of a younger (and probably slightly better) Stef Martin. And he can float forward from time to time and kick the odd goal. AFL player ratings rate him as the 4th best ruck in the comp (behind Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein) so we can expect Oscar to have his hands full around the ground all game.

Along with Marshall, Paddy Ryder is also playing some good footy this year with the two forming a good 1-2 punch offensive team. Even with Oscars excellent mid-season form, I can’t help but feel this will be one game that having Stef Martin missing will hurt us. Not just for the general wear and tear of two ruckman competing against a single recognized ruck (one and a half if you count Eagles) throughout the day but also for that long high ball and contest down the line. But you throw in an in-form Max King and a Tim Membrey (who in my opinion is very much an underrated forward) and the saints really do have some talented talls to keep us busy around the ground. The way Harris, Oscar and Mcstay compete deep along the wings against the Saints tall's will be a fascinating viewing point throughout the game.


Team Stats




Here is the part where I was hoping to pick apart each team’s game plan a little more and see where the key differences in ball movement lie. But when I found myself looking through all the major categories I ultimately found a lot of similarities between the Lions and Saints and very few key differences to suggest where one team might out-performing the other. For example just to name a few:


Av. One Percenters: Lions 41.1, Saints 41.7

Av. Uncontested Possessions: Lions 160.9, Saints 172.9

Av. Contested Possessions: Lions 118.8, Saints 119

Av. Tackles: Lions 51.6, Saints 48.9

Av. Clearances: Lions 31.8, Saints 30.5


The inside 50s were slightly more in our favor with the Lions averaging about 7 more entries per game (Lions 47.2, Saints 40.8) but even the gap there isn’t really a game determining one. But I did find one category which clearly separate the two teams in 2020 and surprise surprise Lions fans its Goal Accuracy.

Saints are the most accurate scoring team this year scoring goals from 53.1% of shots. Lions (unsurprisingly) are dead last on 41.1%. We average more behinds per game than anyone else (12.1) and twice as many as the saints. We all know this. We’ve all cursed our TV at times during the year while watching a simple Charlie Cameron, Dan McStay or Eric Hipwood missed opportunity. But those numbers show a pretty stark difference over just half a season or so between the two teams.




On the plus side, the Lions do average the most shots on goals per game in the comp. We just need to take our chances more.

But what these stats really tell me is that the saints are a genuinely good team in 2020. To be honest, at times I have been a little unsure whether or not the Saints current ladder position really reflects where the team is truly at (as a genuine finals team and contender), or if maybe they’ve just had a little bit of luck on the field (and at times with team fitness) and are really more of a mid-table team over performing in 2020. There might be a little element of truth in both these points, however I’m feeling more and more confident saying that at their best the Saints are an exciting and explosive team that can score very quickly and punish you. If these teams stats tell us anything about what to expect on the weekend, it’s that if we don’t turn up to play and take this Saint Kilda outfit very seriously, they will punish us and kick away before we even know it. Lions need to respond after a very poor game on the weekend. If we put in another North Melbourne-like effort, then this game will be over by half time.


Lets Go a Little Deeper - Lets Talk About the Saints Scoring

I came across this little goal kicking nugget on the internet last week. “Where did you get it from Biggies? Is this true?” Great questions I hear you ask. And the truth is I found it somewhere on twitter and as we know - the internet never lies. So clearly this infographic music be true! Now enough with the questions, I'm trying to make a point.


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If we ignore the Saints v Bombers game for now (as I don’t have those stats on hand) we can see here a clear blueprint as to how the cats (comfortably) put away the saints two weeks ago. Saints are a team that punish you on turnover, they run in waves and flood forward with ball in hand. They get as many numbers inside 50 as quickly as they can, overwhelm the defenders, play hopscotch with ball in hand and can kick a lot of goals from 10-20 meters out by a man sitting on his own in the square (or close too). The cats knew this and did a great job of stopping it. They didn’t allow easy shots (or open goals) from up close and this is what we must be do on the weekend to beat the saints. Get back quickly, set up, block the hole and not let Butler, Battle, Membrey, Billings etc run in and kick simple goals from the square. This may also feed back into as to why their goal accuracy is so high in 2020.



Predictions

Like most games of footy these days a lot will determine what happens in the middle. But I can’t help but feel our inside ball winning mids (Neale, Zorko, Lyons) will just be too strong for the saints. We should win the contested ball in this game. But what happens on the outside might be a different story. Saints are a good linking ball transition team and we will need to stop their uncontested ball movement up the wing by locking down on players like Jones, Hill, Billings etc.

The other key point for me is how the Saints score. The saints forward line is dangerous with a lot of players capable of hitting a major including Butler, King, Membrey, Kent, Battle and Billings just to name a few. If we let them take simple shots close to goal they will score fast and score big. If we can block that hole (maybe even play Harris as a loose intercepting man), flood that deep defense position and force then to take more difficult shots further out and on sharper angles, they will find it a lot harder to kick a winning score in this game. I want to see a lot of spoils this weekend and the golden fist in action.




So when I make a Lions prediction, I really have no idea if I’m making a call using my head or my heart. Maybe it’s because I know our team inside out but only watch a handful of Saints games each year. Last week I was feeling confident that the saints will put up a fight throughout the game but our class through the middle will just be a little too much for their on-ball team to handle. Today (after a slow, flat footed poor game on the weekend) I’m not feeling as sure. I think it will be close, fast exciting footy to watch but which lions team turns up we’ll just have to wait and see. Ultimately if we can limit Butlers influence up forward, Jones’s line-breaking speed around the ground and stop the bigger Saints bodies taking the uncontested intercept mark down the line, we should win it. And to be honest, if we are a legitimate finals team this year, we probably should win this game by 3-4 goals.

But Saints are not to be taken lightly. And of course there’s always the chance the worst goal kicking team of the comp comes out and kicks another 4-17 this weekend. So anything is possible.

But I will leave you with a famous ancient Chinese proverb to sum up this games preview.

“Shut down Butler and your football team shall win.” – Confucius 490 BC.


Tremendous preview. I am happy to report that there will be no Eddie, but as its a Channel 7 game we instead get BT so be careful what you wish for!
 
Brisbane Lions (2nd) Vs St Kilda (5th)
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Overview

Well well well. Past Biggies put his hand up to do this one at the start the of the year thinking it would be a nice and easy relaxing preview. “Which Preview could I write in 5 minutes to quickly sum up a Brisbane win” I thought. “Which GABBA game will Charlie kick a bag and Neale collect another casual 3 Brownlow votes? I know, how about the cruisey 2nd vs 14th match” (2019 ladder).

Well don’t I look like a fool of a took now. From what originally looked like a comfortable win going into the start of the year is now setting itself up beautifully to be an absolute game to watch. Two good attacking teams that like to move the footy quickly. A Butler up one end and a Charlie up the other, a Steele and a Neale in the middle, a Jones and Clug running up the wings and two (in my opinion) excellent coaches (both ex-Hawthorn assistants) fighting it out for a top 4 spot in 2020.

This one just feels like its going to be fun to watch. Fast paced, attacking footy is on the menu. Lets just hope we have the great man Anthony Huddo calling it (please god hear me now no Eddie) and we can comfortably set up for a long day on the couch with a nice hot cuppa - all ready to launch into a Sunday arvo special.


Saints Last Five (4W – 1L)

  • Saints Defeated Port 73 -44
  • Saints Defeated Swans 101 – 48
  • Saints Defeated Suns 78 – 74
  • Cats Defeated Saints 93 – 34
  • Saints Defeated Bombers 69 – 33


Key Players in Doubt?



Lions
  • Adams (Foot)
  • Martin (Back)
  • Smith (Ankle)
  • Cameron (Knee) - Maybe?/Maybe not?
Saints
  • Brown (Leave)
  • Dunston (Pecs)
  • Hannebery (Hamstring)
  • Gresham (Back)
  • Webster (Hamstring)


Who to watch

Jack Steele

What a year Steele is having. He’s gone from playing as a defensive lock down tagger to now growing into a genuine damaging mid of the comp. Averaging nearly 22 touches and 11 contested a game its really his tackling and pressure acts which hurt the opposition most in the middle. 5.7 tackles a game place him in the elite category across the competition.

Dan Butler
In the words of BT Boy oh Boy Wowee what a year. Or alternatively for us lions fans aka Dan Cutler - Butler is possibly the most in-form small forward of the comp and arguably currently playing better footy then both Charlie Cameron and Tom Papley at the moment. Averaging just under 2 goals a game (which puts him third in the Coleman race) and 4.5 tackles Dan has absolutely gone to the next level in 2020. Butler is one of the big reasons for the saints increased success this year, and even with that shocker of a haircut his finishing in front of goal is absolutely….




Rowan Marshall and the rest of the Big Guys
I’m a big fan of this guy. Originally off the rookie list Marshall works very hard around the ground. Reminds me of a younger (and probably slightly better) Stef Martin. And he can float forward from time to time and kick the odd goal. AFL player ratings rate him as the 4th best ruck in the comp (behind Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein) so we can expect Oscar to have his hands full around the ground all game.

Along with Marshall, Paddy Ryder is also playing some good footy this year with the two forming a good 1-2 punch offensive team. Even with Oscars excellent mid-season form, I can’t help but feel this will be one game that having Stef Martin missing will hurt us. Not just for the general wear and tear of two ruckman competing against a single recognized ruck (one and a half if you count Eagles) throughout the day but also for that long high ball and contest down the line. But you throw in an in-form Max King and a Tim Membrey (who in my opinion is very much an underrated forward) and the saints really do have some talented talls to keep us busy around the ground. The way Harris, Oscar and Mcstay compete deep along the wings against the Saints tall's will be a fascinating viewing point throughout the game.


Team Stats




Here is the part where I was hoping to pick apart each team’s game plan a little more and see where the key differences in ball movement lie. But when I found myself looking through all the major categories I ultimately found a lot of similarities between the Lions and Saints and very few key differences to suggest where one team might out-performing the other. For example just to name a few:


Av. One Percenters: Lions 41.1, Saints 41.7

Av. Uncontested Possessions: Lions 160.9, Saints 172.9

Av. Contested Possessions: Lions 118.8, Saints 119

Av. Tackles: Lions 51.6, Saints 48.9

Av. Clearances: Lions 31.8, Saints 30.5


The inside 50s were slightly more in our favor with the Lions averaging about 7 more entries per game (Lions 47.2, Saints 40.8) but even the gap there isn’t really a game determining one. But I did find one category which clearly separate the two teams in 2020 and surprise surprise Lions fans its Goal Accuracy.

Saints are the most accurate scoring team this year scoring goals from 53.1% of shots. Lions (unsurprisingly) are dead last on 41.1%. We average more behinds per game than anyone else (12.1) and twice as many as the saints. We all know this. We’ve all cursed our TV at times during the year while watching a simple Charlie Cameron, Dan McStay or Eric Hipwood missed opportunity. But those numbers show a pretty stark difference over just half a season or so between the two teams.




On the plus side, the Lions do average the most shots on goals per game in the comp. We just need to take our chances more.

But what these stats really tell me is that the saints are a genuinely good team in 2020. To be honest, at times I have been a little unsure whether or not the Saints current ladder position really reflects where the team is truly at (as a genuine finals team and contender), or if maybe they’ve just had a little bit of luck on the field (and at times with team fitness) and are really more of a mid-table team over performing in 2020. There might be a little element of truth in both these points, however I’m feeling more and more confident saying that at their best the Saints are an exciting and explosive team that can score very quickly and punish you. If these teams stats tell us anything about what to expect on the weekend, it’s that if we don’t turn up to play and take this Saint Kilda outfit very seriously, they will punish us and kick away before we even know it. Lions need to respond after a very poor game on the weekend. If we put in another North Melbourne-like effort, then this game will be over by half time.


Lets Go a Little Deeper - Lets Talk About the Saints Scoring

I came across this little goal kicking nugget on the internet last week. “Where did you get it from Biggies? Is this true?” Great questions I hear you ask. And the truth is I found it somewhere on twitter and as we know - the internet never lies. So clearly this infographic music be true! Now enough with the questions, I'm trying to make a point.


View attachment 937985


If we ignore the Saints v Bombers game for now (as I don’t have those stats on hand) we can see here a clear blueprint as to how the cats (comfortably) put away the saints two weeks ago. Saints are a team that punish you on turnover, they run in waves and flood forward with ball in hand. They get as many numbers inside 50 as quickly as they can, overwhelm the defenders, play hopscotch with ball in hand and can kick a lot of goals from 10-20 meters out by a man sitting on his own in the square (or close too). The cats knew this and did a great job of stopping it. They didn’t allow easy shots (or open goals) from up close and this is what we must be do on the weekend to beat the saints. Get back quickly, set up, block the hole and not let Butler, Battle, Membrey, Billings etc run in and kick simple goals from the square. This may also feed back into as to why their goal accuracy is so high in 2020.



Predictions

Like most games of footy these days a lot will determine what happens in the middle. But I can’t help but feel our inside ball winning mids (Neale, Zorko, Lyons) will just be too strong for the saints. We should win the contested ball in this game. But what happens on the outside might be a different story. Saints are a good linking ball transition team and we will need to stop their uncontested ball movement up the wing by locking down on players like Jones, Hill, Billings etc.

The other key point for me is how the Saints score. The saints forward line is dangerous with a lot of players capable of hitting a major including Butler, King, Membrey, Kent, Battle and Billings just to name a few. If we let them take simple shots close to goal they will score fast and score big. If we can block that hole (maybe even play Harris as a loose intercepting man), flood that deep defense position and force then to take more difficult shots further out and on sharper angles, they will find it a lot harder to kick a winning score in this game. I want to see a lot of spoils this weekend and the golden fist in action.




So when I make a Lions prediction, I really have no idea if I’m making a call using my head or my heart. Maybe it’s because I know our team inside out but only watch a handful of Saints games each year. Last week I was feeling confident that the saints will put up a fight throughout the game but our class through the middle will just be a little too much for their on-ball team to handle. Today (after a slow, flat footed poor game on the weekend) I’m not feeling as sure. I think it will be close, fast exciting footy to watch but which lions team turns up we’ll just have to wait and see. Ultimately if we can limit Butlers influence up forward, Jones’s line-breaking speed around the ground and stop the bigger Saints bodies taking the uncontested intercept mark down the line, we should win it. And to be honest, if we are a legitimate finals team this year, we probably should win this game by 3-4 goals.

But Saints are not to be taken lightly. And of course there’s always the chance the worst goal kicking team of the comp comes out and kicks another 4-17 this weekend. So anything is possible.

But I will leave you with a famous ancient Chinese proverb to sum up this games preview.

“Shut down Butler and your football team shall win.” – Confucius 490 BC.


Brilliant!
 

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Brisbane Lions (2nd) Vs St Kilda (5th)
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Overview

Well well well. Past Biggies put his hand up to do this one at the start the of the year thinking it would be a nice and easy relaxing preview. “Which Preview could I write in 5 minutes to quickly sum up a Brisbane win” I thought. “Which GABBA game will Charlie kick a bag and Neale collect another casual 3 Brownlow votes? I know, how about the cruisey 2nd vs 14th match” (2019 ladder).

Well don’t I look like a fool of a took now. From what originally looked like a comfortable win going into the start of the year is now setting itself up beautifully to be an absolute game to watch. Two good attacking teams that like to move the footy quickly. A Butler up one end and a Charlie up the other, a Steele and a Neale in the middle, a Jones and Clug running up the wings and two (in my opinion) excellent coaches (both ex-Hawthorn assistants) fighting it out for a top 4 spot in 2020.

This one just feels like its going to be fun to watch. Fast paced, attacking footy is on the menu. Lets just hope we have the great man Anthony Huddo calling it (please god hear me now no Eddie) and we can comfortably set up for a long day on the couch with a nice hot cuppa - all ready to launch into a Sunday arvo special.


Saints Last Five (4W – 1L)

  • Saints Defeated Port 73 -44
  • Saints Defeated Swans 101 – 48
  • Saints Defeated Suns 78 – 74
  • Cats Defeated Saints 93 – 34
  • Saints Defeated Bombers 69 – 33


Key Players in Doubt?



Lions
  • Adams (Foot)
  • Martin (Back)
  • Smith (Ankle)
  • Cameron (Knee) - Maybe?/Maybe not?
Saints
  • Brown (Leave)
  • Dunston (Pecs)
  • Hannebery (Hamstring)
  • Gresham (Back)
  • Webster (Hamstring)


Who to watch

Jack Steele

What a year Steele is having. He’s gone from playing as a defensive lock down tagger to now growing into a genuine damaging mid of the comp. Averaging nearly 22 touches and 11 contested a game its really his tackling and pressure acts which hurt the opposition most in the middle. 5.7 tackles a game place him in the elite category across the competition.

Dan Butler
In the words of BT Boy oh Boy Wowee what a year. Or alternatively for us lions fans aka Dan Cutler - Butler is possibly the most in-form small forward of the comp and arguably currently playing better footy then both Charlie Cameron and Tom Papley at the moment. Averaging just under 2 goals a game (which puts him third in the Coleman race) and 4.5 tackles Dan has absolutely gone to the next level in 2020. Butler is one of the big reasons for the saints increased success this year, and even with that shocker of a haircut his finishing in front of goal is absolutely….




Rowan Marshall and the rest of the Big Guys
I’m a big fan of this guy. Originally off the rookie list Marshall works very hard around the ground. Reminds me of a younger (and probably slightly better) Stef Martin. And he can float forward from time to time and kick the odd goal. AFL player ratings rate him as the 4th best ruck in the comp (behind Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein) so we can expect Oscar to have his hands full around the ground all game.

Along with Marshall, Paddy Ryder is also playing some good footy this year with the two forming a good 1-2 punch offensive team. Even with Oscars excellent mid-season form, I can’t help but feel this will be one game that having Stef Martin missing will hurt us. Not just for the general wear and tear of two ruckman competing against a single recognized ruck (one and a half if you count Eagles) throughout the day but also for that long high ball and contest down the line. But you throw in an in-form Max King and a Tim Membrey (who in my opinion is very much an underrated forward) and the saints really do have some talented talls to keep us busy around the ground. The way Harris, Oscar and Mcstay compete deep along the wings against the Saints tall's will be a fascinating viewing point throughout the game.


Team Stats




Here is the part where I was hoping to pick apart each team’s game plan a little more and see where the key differences in ball movement lie. But when I found myself looking through all the major categories I ultimately found a lot of similarities between the Lions and Saints and very few key differences to suggest where one team might out-performing the other. For example just to name a few:


Av. One Percenters: Lions 41.1, Saints 41.7

Av. Uncontested Possessions: Lions 160.9, Saints 172.9

Av. Contested Possessions: Lions 118.8, Saints 119

Av. Tackles: Lions 51.6, Saints 48.9

Av. Clearances: Lions 31.8, Saints 30.5


The inside 50s were slightly more in our favor with the Lions averaging about 7 more entries per game (Lions 47.2, Saints 40.8) but even the gap there isn’t really a game determining one. But I did find one category which clearly separate the two teams in 2020 and surprise surprise Lions fans its Goal Accuracy.

Saints are the most accurate scoring team this year scoring goals from 53.1% of shots. Lions (unsurprisingly) are dead last on 41.1%. We average more behinds per game than anyone else (12.1) and twice as many as the saints. We all know this. We’ve all cursed our TV at times during the year while watching a simple Charlie Cameron, Dan McStay or Eric Hipwood missed opportunity. But those numbers show a pretty stark difference over just half a season or so between the two teams.




On the plus side, the Lions do average the most shots on goals per game in the comp. We just need to take our chances more.

But what these stats really tell me is that the saints are a genuinely good team in 2020. To be honest, at times I have been a little unsure whether or not the Saints current ladder position really reflects where the team is truly at (as a genuine finals team and contender), or if maybe they’ve just had a little bit of luck on the field (and at times with team fitness) and are really more of a mid-table team over performing in 2020. There might be a little element of truth in both these points, however I’m feeling more and more confident saying that at their best the Saints are an exciting and explosive team that can score very quickly and punish you. If these teams stats tell us anything about what to expect on the weekend, it’s that if we don’t turn up to play and take this Saint Kilda outfit very seriously, they will punish us and kick away before we even know it. Lions need to respond after a very poor game on the weekend. If we put in another North Melbourne-like effort, then this game will be over by half time.


Lets Go a Little Deeper - Lets Talk About the Saints Scoring

I came across this little goal kicking nugget on the internet last week. “Where did you get it from Biggies? Is this true?” Great questions I hear you ask. And the truth is I found it somewhere on twitter and as we know - the internet never lies. So clearly this infographic music be true! Now enough with the questions, I'm trying to make a point.


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If we ignore the Saints v Bombers game for now (as I don’t have those stats on hand) we can see here a clear blueprint as to how the cats (comfortably) put away the saints two weeks ago. Saints are a team that punish you on turnover, they run in waves and flood forward with ball in hand. They get as many numbers inside 50 as quickly as they can, overwhelm the defenders, play hopscotch with ball in hand and can kick a lot of goals from 10-20 meters out by a man sitting on his own in the square (or close too). The cats knew this and did a great job of stopping it. They didn’t allow easy shots (or open goals) from up close and this is what we must be do on the weekend to beat the saints. Get back quickly, set up, block the hole and not let Butler, Battle, Membrey, Billings etc run in and kick simple goals from the square. This may also feed back into as to why their goal accuracy is so high in 2020.



Predictions

Like most games of footy these days a lot will determine what happens in the middle. But I can’t help but feel our inside ball winning mids (Neale, Zorko, Lyons) will just be too strong for the saints. We should win the contested ball in this game. But what happens on the outside might be a different story. Saints are a good linking ball transition team and we will need to stop their uncontested ball movement up the wing by locking down on players like Jones, Hill, Billings etc.

The other key point for me is how the Saints score. The saints forward line is dangerous with a lot of players capable of hitting a major including Butler, King, Membrey, Kent, Battle and Billings just to name a few. If we let them take simple shots close to goal they will score fast and score big. If we can block that hole (maybe even play Harris as a loose intercepting man), flood that deep defense position and force then to take more difficult shots further out and on sharper angles, they will find it a lot harder to kick a winning score in this game. I want to see a lot of spoils this weekend and the golden fist in action.




So when I make a Lions prediction, I really have no idea if I’m making a call using my head or my heart. Maybe it’s because I know our team inside out but only watch a handful of Saints games each year. Last week I was feeling confident that the saints will put up a fight throughout the game but our class through the middle will just be a little too much for their on-ball team to handle. Today (after a slow, flat footed poor game on the weekend) I’m not feeling as sure. I think it will be close, fast exciting footy to watch but which lions team turns up we’ll just have to wait and see. Ultimately if we can limit Butlers influence up forward, Jones’s line-breaking speed around the ground and stop the bigger Saints bodies taking the uncontested intercept mark down the line, we should win it. And to be honest, if we are a legitimate finals team this year, we probably should win this game by 3-4 goals.

But Saints are not to be taken lightly. And of course there’s always the chance the worst goal kicking team of the comp comes out and kicks another 4-17 this weekend. So anything is possible.

But I will leave you with a famous ancient Chinese proverb to sum up this games preview.

“Shut down Butler and your football team shall win.” – Confucius 490 BC.

Fantastic preso. Biggies. Many thanks for putting in so much effort.
 
Think this could be a real cracker. Both teams should be well rested and ready to go for an important match.

Since it's at the GABBA and we do have a more experienced team, we should be favoured and should be winning this match but as the preview says, we cannot take them lightly. Good team the Saints in 2020.
 
Fantastic preview Biggies, there was some quality analysis of us this season.

I think you guys will really have the chance to exploit our midfield this week. We are pretty light on for midfield depth especially considering Gresham and Hannebery are both injured.

Your goalkicking woes are also very reminiscent of us in seasons gone by. I'm still not quite past expecting every shot from 30 metres out directly in front to miss so I can sympathise there.

Hopefully the game lives up to the hype and both sides get to test themselves in a finals like atmosphere. :thumbsu:
 
We need to keep on winning and finish in the top 2, we can’t play at Metricon in the finals because we just can’t play Metricon.
Our kicking for goal is atrocious at that place and we can’t keep our feet and slipping over on the surface all the time.

The Saints have got pretty good at playing the Gabba though so this will not be an easy game.

lions by 19🦁

Just picked up this little beauty (early B’Day present)
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This game should be a reasonable guide as to where we are at. Both sides will be rested well enough , the Saints are in good form and must have a level of confidence in their gameplan by now.

I think back at the Gabba we need to be winning this match to be in the hunt for a flag.
 
If we play like we did against North Melbourne, we lose this one by 50 points. We need a BIG LIFT out of the team and we need to not waste goal scoring opportunities. I'm sure it wasn't that long ago, but I cant remember the last time St.Kilda played us at the GABBA.

Lions to win (fingers crossed)
 
I'm sure it wasn't that long ago, but I cant remember the last time St.Kilda played us at the GABBA.
Round 9, 2015 (lost by 22). We've played them once every year since at Docklands and had 3 losses until our big win last year at Docklands, which now seems like a lifetime ago.
 

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After watching us crawl over the line against Norf with McLug, Berry. Charlie and Robbo looking absolutely shot.....my mind goes back to the game prior to the bye last season vs the scum where we succumbed after 1/2 time to some brillance from their Captain. Did we learn anything form that game? Will the selection committee have the gonads to make the necessary tweaks to ensure a fresh vibrant team to compete or just stick with the norm? Time for some tweaking I say.
 
After watching us crawl over the line against Norf with McLug, Berry. Charlie and Robbo looking absolutely shot.....my mind goes back to the game prior to the bye last season vs the scum where we succumbed after 1/2 time to some brillance from their Captain. Did we learn anything form that game? Will the selection committee have the gonads to make the necessary tweaks to ensure a fresh vibrant team to compete or just stick with the norm? Time for some tweaking I say.

The bye last year was a 14 day break. While this isn't a bye, an 8 day break is fairly substantial. There won't be any resting done by the team.
 
The bye last year was a 14 day break. While this isn't a bye, an 8 day break is fairly substantial. There won't be any resting done by the team.
Stats Stats Stats.......look at the fatigued players????????????????????????
 
After watching us crawl over the line against Norf with McLug, Berry. Charlie and Robbo looking absolutely shot.....my mind goes back to the game prior to the bye last season vs the scum where we succumbed after 1/2 time to some brillance from their Captain. Did we learn anything form that game? Will the selection committee have the gonads to make the necessary tweaks to ensure a fresh vibrant team to compete or just stick with the norm? Time for some tweaking I say.
We went on to win 9 in a row after that game.
Last year we made 3 changes I believe after that game.
Outs: N Robbo, L Taylor, A Smith
Ins: Lester, Bundy, Oscar.

This week there will be 2 changes minimum with both Rich and Rayner to come in.
How many other changes would suit your thinking?🤔
 
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