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irel
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So, just want to know, did the word/s "clique," "Fagan apologists," "Fagan lovers" “Group think” appear in this thread?
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So, just want to know, did the word/s "clique," "Fagan apologists," "Fagan lovers" “Group think” appear in this thread?
Was anyone shouted down?Group think - ding ding ding
Was anyone shouted down?
yep few pages of good melts, someone threatened to push Nunez down the stairs for supporting Fagan's selection, Gunston got called a few names like not a third tall, not a goal kicker, can't mark over his head, Fagan's pet came straight back etc. Also we finally worked out Nunez is Chris Fagan.
How could I miss "Fagan's pets"So, just want to know, did the word/s "clique," "Fagan apologists," "Fagan lovers" “Group think” appear in this thread?
I wonder if Witho will play on Gunston ?I want to see an open forward line with a long ball sent over the top into space.
Gunston & Witherden both with a 50 metre head start vs who ever kicked it.
Well it does…. If lever/may is against Linc/Ah Chee or Gunston/hipwood/ Joey… who’s more likely to at least half the contest and get it to ground? It doesn’t allow them to zone off as freely and they have to be accountable. It’s easy to say ‘lower your eyes’ but at the top level I dare say this is an option 20/30% of the time. You just don’t have the time. Especially against the contenders
Some people seem to forget how bad our forward pressure has been.Despite him ? That's what it seemed like. It's not as if I've just bobbed up now . I started in round 3. So happy we finally got the message. Would've liked to have seen a harder way back for someone who didn't help us.
We won a lot of games last year before we fell off the perch.
Some people seem to forget how bad our forward pressure has been.
To define it more precisely, ability to make ground, get to the oppositions player and pressure them , put a tackle on, move across to cut off the next player.
Quick enough to get out on a lead or attack the loose ball.
Gunners is none of these things and is past it.
It's unfortunately a waste of games , that could be used for refining out team.
There isn't a team that doesn't offer that sought of pressure and be competitive.
We learned that and moved on , but hey we are now taking a step backwards.
I'm not fussed , but I guess I will be dissapointed if we drop off again in the next three or so games with our pressure in the forward half.
We play our best footy when we are on our bikes ,and that's all over the park, so no thanks , we don't want slow players period.
And Lester is not slow, as an example .
He is not quick at turning but makes up for it with positioning and maximun speed and reaction time, he needs to be moving and not stationary.
Players like Rich, Gunners offer no form of speed whether it's speed of the mark or maximun, in their present stages of their careers.
That's just my opinion , so I'm intitled to that I would think.
Let's see how it pans out, maybe he has been playing with a secret injury , who would know, but unlikely .
TBH I'm more dissapointed Hippy changed his song, that's just tragic.
I'm definitely of the thought that the role is how we get the most out of Cam. It gives him a bit more license to go for hangers and allows him a bit more room to attack the ball.I've really enjoyed the way we have played with two talls plus Rayner - we look stronger, faster and smarter with ball use. If I ignore Gunston's history and just look at what he's delivered this year, it just doesn't stack up. Can't see why he wasn't sent to the reserves to show what his training block has delivered.
The defence is working really well without Rich at the moment.That’s it for me too. Not how many goals he kicks rather his defensive efforts.
Fages just announced Rich is playing VFL. So a club legend has to go through there but not Fages pet who gets preferential treatment
I prefer the term "researched based consensus".So, just want to know, did the word/s "clique," "Fagan apologists," "Fagan lovers" “Group think” appear in this thread?
Coleman is hard to assess on speed. Seems to have a burst but often be on cruise control. Suspect fitness still the issue.i said towards the start of the year i thought our backline looked best with only one of rich or coleman back there. too slow on rebound to accommodate both with how the top teams are playing this year. originally thought rich was ahead of coleman but after seeing rich play live against hawthorn, coleman should hold the spot. rich probably still a slightly better kick, but the gap between rich and coleman for pace (who is not exactly quick himself) is very noticeable, especially seeing how much more often coleman is getting into spots to intercept compared to rich
gunston has a lot easier path back into the team with forward line injuries and if fit provides a point of difference we cannot easily get through playing like for like players as we can with rich
happy for him to get another crack. fagan and match committee have shown they can make the tough calls this year. if gunston is not up for it again i think they will have the resolve to make the call.
They did have a race but all failed to finishWho’s the fastest out of the 3 though:
Daniel Rich / Jack Gunston / Alex Witherden
Ok I get that.Don't agree with this at all. Having a third tall forward means one of them is required to play on him.
The only way Lever and May etc would be able to "float off" and impact the contest in that situation is if his positioning was so poor that it became obvious he wouldn't get the ball. Now, Gunston has been criticised of a lot of things this year, and rightly so, but having a poor footy brain ain't one of them.
I think we should ask Brent Daniels.Who’s the fastest out of the 3 though:
Daniel Rich / Jack Gunston / Alex Witherden
I think we should ask Brent Daniels.
I think we should ask Brent Daniels.
Nunez half cocked opinion painted as fact is actually backed up by performance on the field for weeks on end which I'm sure you and everyone else saw.
If he's had a crook back or whatever other ailment he might get let's see him earn his spot back which is surely the best way to go.
Fwiiw the people I respect who support other clubs are telling me the one way Brisbane stuffs up this year is holding on to players into the finals who are past it.
It's not as if we don't have players who have shown they offer more.
This is just dumb by Fagan . Giving Gunston a free ride back into the Seniors after he couldn't chase or run for weeks so he can look half reasonable.
Very disappointed after the step forward we made of recent weeks.
Yet we have beaten the premiership favourites comfortably as well as the team ranked 4th, one spot behind us. I know both of those wins were when Gunston was in the team but our run has certainly looked better without him in the last few weeks. Our backline is probably functioning now better than it ever has and as long as we make correct calls at the selection table and don't drop players who are excellent runners for players who are liabilities when the ball isn't in hand, we are absolutely a great chance to win it this year. What seems to have stopped us previously is defensive run and our mids being outmuscled. This years we have been able to fix both issues.Secondly, I don't think this year is our year... again. As other posters have mentioned, the team is transitioning from a kick/mark team to a mixture of kick/mark and run. Because of this transition, and the loss of a consistent bail-out contested mark, it seems that at times the team gets conflicted with the game plan.