Stupid move that one, Trey has speed size and a nice kick on him and is quite tough as well.
Always thought he would be really good for us after 50 games.
That one’s a real head scratcher to me.
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Always thought he would be really good for us after 50 games.
That one’s a real head scratcher to me.
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Our boys look very comfortable and content, not sure the desire is there to climb the mountain again
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Trey’s no longer in the system for a reason. Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic to think he would in any way improve the current mix considering he didn’t get a look in the previous 2 years. The only cut we’ve made that was iffy was McMahon after two years, but we’ve since added Eyre which mitigates it.
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Lose this and it's time for a re-build.
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joking. But holy **** if we do lose this then finals looks gone unless of course a huge form reversal.
Complacency. Lack of hunger. Lack of focus. Absolute shambles atm.
Complacency. Lack of hunger. Lack of focus. Absolute shambles atm.
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No point playing all these over-30s unless they're going for the flag
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I wouldn't say finals gone if we lose. But top 4 gets hard. The last four seasons teams have made top 4 with a maximum of 5-7 losses.
Essentially if we lose we'd only be able to drop another 4 games for the season, and that's provided that there's not 4 sides to do it better.
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Giants lost 10 matches & came within a point of playing in the GF.
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Break it down for us who’s at risk and who’s coming in to improve us? I’ve got Cox and WHE in the 30+ bracket and vulnerable to losing their spot then maybe Steele or Pendles with the consecutive 6 day breaks leading into a GABBA trip. The flipside is Frampton in place of Cox is a bit meh, WHE plays a role that’s a bit harder to decipher maybe we improve with Noble and Bytel or Sullivan for Pendles or Steele seems a backward step. It feels like a shit the bed type scenario and that we’re early in the season for shitting the bed.
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I'm sure he is capable.
He might just not be ready yet.
Like, you can talk "further up field" and system until the cows come home, but as a defender, your bare minimum requirement/capability should be to be able to win basic 1 v1 contests no? Particularly against smaller opponents....particularly when said small opponent even falls over in the contest giving you the lay up?
As someone who has spruiked Dean for the last 2 years, that was bitterly disappointing to see. That kinda stuff is very very basic body position, strength and just reading the ball in flight
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I’m inclined to agree… if they lose to the saints and then the lions.
0-4 largely rules out top 4.
No top 4, no flag… rare exceptions to this
No flag on the horizon… and it’s time to play the kids like Macrae, McInness, Allan, Harrison… then blood the newbies like DeMattia, Eyre, Jiath late in the year
At years end Retire some veterans, create cap space, hit free agency and the draft
Others will see it differently.
Want to play all the veterans still in the hope that they somehow click and develop the necessary hunger late in the year…
however I think if we start 0-4… then I can’t see the spark suddenly psychologically igniting in July… and older bodies being fresh enough… late in the season.
Happy to book mark this and be pulled up later if I’m wrong
Hopefully I am!
I would have loved to retain trey as well. Tough, good height and pace and a great kick. Given our lack of talls and risk with Murphy it would have made sense to me to retain a tallish defender.
But the club knows far more and it’s interesting he wasn’t picked up anywhere else. Decision made, moving on..
But the club knows far more and it’s interesting he wasn’t picked up anywhere else. Decision made, moving on..
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No. Our team sets itself up with an 18 man defence to prevent the need for a defender to be in a 1 v 1. When we’re playing well the pressure further afield slows the transition of the opposition. That then allows Howe and Moore to position themselves to come over and support Dean in a 1 v 1. Right now that breakdown further afield is creating a chain reaction exploiting all of our defensive group. You’re just noticing it more with Dean because he’s being asked to play the deepest defender role.
I think you were fair to highlight he might need to go back to VFL level this however is moving more toward the realms of me strongly disagreeing.
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Yep
I absolutely think our current group can go again and win another flag this year but their actions and body language say otherwise atm
Have to show something this week, either win, or lose honourably
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A couple of his contest losses were because the opponent was just too good - but most of them were because he didn't attack the footy. I suspect he's positioning really well, but the confidence isn't there. Attack the footy Charlie rather than focussing solely on the body of your opponent. He pushed Heeney over and then continued to try to lean into him - rather than switching to marking the ball.
Most of this Chat / Observations / Comments around Dean .. Remind me of the early days Of Langdons areer ( and hence BF comments) ... He was A complete spud Early Doors, then became one of our top 10 Players ... shame his career cut short .
I haven’t had time to read through the whole thread and I don’t want to sugarcoat our terrible start to the year but one question I had looking at our performances was on our training regimen. We have gone from the team that can switch gears and run teams off their feet in last quarters to a team that looks rattled by half time.
A lot of our issues against both GWS and Sydney were down to turnovers (massively impacted by fatigue), being outnumbered in multiple areas of the ground and inability to put pressure in transition on the midfield (ie teams walk to our D50 with ease by breaking tackles).
Because we have been experimental with our physical prep in the past two years, and with success, I wonder if we tried something over the off season that didn’t work. Either too easy or too hard, or approaching the schedule of training loads for the year differently.
It seemed to me that even when the effort was there, the action was left lacking (eg pressure acts that barely impact the ball carrier).
A lot of our issues against both GWS and Sydney were down to turnovers (massively impacted by fatigue), being outnumbered in multiple areas of the ground and inability to put pressure in transition on the midfield (ie teams walk to our D50 with ease by breaking tackles).
Because we have been experimental with our physical prep in the past two years, and with success, I wonder if we tried something over the off season that didn’t work. Either too easy or too hard, or approaching the schedule of training loads for the year differently.
It seemed to me that even when the effort was there, the action was left lacking (eg pressure acts that barely impact the ball carrier).
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I think you’re being pretty kind there; the turnovers were very evident even in the first half, so it can’t all be down to fatigue. Papley was more accurate with his handball while sitting flat on his arse, than ours were flowing forward under little pressure!
Gly did say in presser Mitchell was battling an injury ...
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Yeah, hard to see us getting back to near our best so suddenly.
Collingwood off a 5-day break vs St Kilda off 4 may not hit any great heights anyway, so let's trust they are at least really switched on.
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In my scenario I’m bringing in Frampton to play back and replace Dean.
It also allows Noble to come in and provide more run which has been sorely missing.
Reef was coming in for AJ as the second albeit undersized key forward.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Noble plays, especially with Fly's "finding hungry players" comment in his presser.
6-day break v 5-day break actually, but the point still stands I guess
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