Ryder V Pendlebury

[The Dustbin]

Selwood is into 2nd favourite. Cat supporters must be confident of a upset....

I'm still on Paddy.

 

[Macpie]

the last two times i've seen Ryder his kicking has been poor when under pressure - Pendles has been sublime in this area. Ryder beats him in pace and hangers - Pendles has EVERY other base covered

 

[Lance Uppercut]

the last two times i've seen Ryder his kicking has been poor when under pressure - Pendles has been sublime in this area. Ryder beats him in pace and hangers - Pendles has EVERY other base covered

Exposing a lack of footy knowledge there, then. You obviously don't watch Ryder much. One of his key strengths is calmness, decision making, and skill execution under pressure.

You've no idea.

Have a look at our board, most Bomber fans agree Pendlebury has one hand on the award.

Doesn't mean you should be making uneducated comments about Ryder though. You're just showing yourself up.

 

[Macpie]

Exposing a lack of footy knowledge there, then. You obviously don't watch Ryder much. One of his key strengths is calmness, decision making, and skill execution under pressure.

You've no idea.

Have a look at our board, most Bomber fans agree Pendlebury has one hand on the award.

Doesn't mean you should be making uneducated comments about Ryder though. You're just showing yourself up.

watch the tapes. hit the other mob on the chest at least 3 times that I noticed. your listen to sheedy too much

 

[cakewalk06]

I don't really care who wins the award but i think one thing is fair to say about these two players... Pies fans would not swap Pendlebury for Ryder and Bombers fans would not swap Ryder for Pendlebury..

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

Pendlebury will get stiffed b/c he plays for Collingwood.

Quite simply, he has more strings to his bow than Ryder. There is no better mover in heavy traffic than Pendlebury, he will never get tackled.

What's forgotten is that he's 190 CM, tall enough for a forward, not just a midfielder. He made Bolton, one of the premier defenders in the AFL, look silly up forward.

 

[WakeUpPies]

surely pendlebury is going to get the award

 

[The Dustbin]

watch the tapes. hit the other mob on the chest at least 3 times that I noticed.

......Pendlebury has never missed a target before, watch the tapes.

 

[The Dustbin]

surely pendlebury is going to get the award

I thought Raines was a good bet last year.

Stranger things have happened. All of a sudden Selwood could be a threat.

 

[stui magpie]

Mmm while M.Clark and Murphy are the clear standouts from that draft Ryder and Pendlebury look good at the moment. If Mitch Clark has some more games like last week he may snatch the RS and confirm his status as the real #1 pick from 2005 if he hasn't already. Ryder and Pendlebury very good players but not in the same league as Clark/Murphy.

Hmmmm. I rate pendlebury better than Murphy. Both second year top 10 draftees playing midfield/forward.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare...4=&Compare=Add+to+Comparison&SelectedPlayers=

 

[WakeUpPies]

......Pendlebury has never missed a target before, watch the tapes.

he actually haven't watch some taps yourself

 

[Seth]

Isn't it funny there are truckloads of bombers supporters on here talking up Ryder but not as much talking up Pendles as really we don't have to. The pressure is on isn't it.

 

[SCRAY72]

If Pendlebury stays healthy and plays every game he will win comfortably.Ryder won't even come second.

 

[Longy413]

Exposing a lack of footy knowledge there, then. You obviously don't watch Ryder much. One of his key strengths is calmness, decision making, and skill execution under pressure.

You've no idea.

Have a look at our board, most Bomber fans agree Pendlebury has one hand on the award.

Doesn't mean you should be making uneducated comments about Ryder though. You're just showing yourself up.

I'm worried about you Lance, from reading your post, it almost sounds as if you expected better.

We know he's a very good field kick and great under pressure, everyone else knows it, let him live in la-la land.

 

[The Dustbin]

he actually haven't watch some taps yourself

Not necessary. Pendles has missed the target 5 times this year. See if your smart enough to work it out.

Petty i know but it is a stat.

 

[The Dustbin]

Isn't it funny there are truckloads of bombers supporters on here talking up Ryder but not as much talking up Pendles as really we don't have to. The pressure is on isn't it.

And Coll supporters aren't talking up Pendles and Geel aren't talking up Selwood etc.

It's not presssure, it's called a group discussion.

 

[Big Nasty]

Selwood's been better than Ryder.

 

[trueblue_91]

Hmmmm. I rate pendlebury better than Murphy. Both second year top 10 draftees playing midfield/forward.

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare...4=&Compare=Add+to+Comparison&SelectedPlayers=

Pendles is a great player, but remember murphy has been tagged a lot this season so that is why he hasn't had huge numbers. Murphy is better than pendles but pendles is easily the 2nd best player from that draft and may even become better tahn murph.

they are both going to be stars so i am not complaining

 

[tara!!]

Being an Essendon supporter naturally i would like Ryder, to win, but like many others i think it is a two horse race between Ryder and Pendulbury.

Both are playing key roles for their clubs and playing consistently every week. The major difference between them is the position that they play. Pendulbury plays as a midfielder or up forward, and Ryder plays as a key defender and pinch hits both in the ruck and up forward. The winner will be decided on who the panel believes plays their role the best and benefits their team the most.

The award is for the most consistent player, not someone who plays one or two good matches for the season, which is currently the case with Clark and Higgins. With that said, if Ryder and/or Pendulbury's form falls off, any of the nominees who play consistent football could win it.

Bryce Gibbs like both Ryder and Pendulbury have played every match this season, but i have to agree with the majority that he is no where playing as good as the other two. The arguement keeps coming up that it is his first year, so he is better. They need to look at facts. Ryder is a taller key position player, who traditionally take longer to develop. Last year he pinich hit in the ruck and up forward, he did not play week in week out like Gibbs has this year. Pendulbury had glandevour fever which ruined his preseason, to play the football that he did last year surprised most as glandevour fever normally takes a long time to get over. This season is the first one where he has been at full fitness.

Gibbs may be better than both Ryder and Pendulbury in their first years, only purely through opportunity and that's its. If Gibbs was in a team like West Coast or Geelong, even Adelaide he won't be in the seniors and getting those opportunities

 

[Slattery_20]

What and getting possies and using it well doesn't help the team? Pendlebury is only behind Swan for hard ball gets and contested possesions in our team. He is also in the top few for tackles. Ryder may be doing the 'little things' but Pendlebury does the 'big things'.

I would actually disagree with the last point, Pearce was deserving based on last years form (Raines 2nd though!?).

Besides Lockyer, Pendlebury has been our most consistant performer by far. Never gone below 16 possies this year and only 3 times gone below 20.

Can the award be tied?

Well at least you can take some comfort from the fact that a crying Raines had to be consoled by Wallet after not winning the medal

 

[Slattery_20]

Selwood's been better than Ryder.

He's played how many games?
Almost every RS winner has played 20+ games

 

[pazza]

Pendlebury is a very good midfielder
Ryder is vary good ruckman/Key position defender.

What is more important to a side's structure?

Give it to Paddy.

 

[micky_11]

can not beleive jesse smiths name has not been mentioned yet, he would have to be a roughie if not a serious contender

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Pendlebury is a very good midfielder
Ryder is vary good ruckman/Key position defender.

What is more important to a side's structure?

Give it to Paddy.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard - By that logic Troy Chaplin should have won the Rising Star last year, because he's a KP player, while Danyle Pearce is a midfielder.

There has been a gap in form between the two - If you rated all of the midfielders in the AFL, Pendlebury would almost definitely be rated relatively close to the top. If you rated the key defenders in the AFL, Ryder would likely not make the top half, given that on almost every team in the competition, he would be a 3rd option tall defender.

 

[Longy413]

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard - By that logic Troy Chaplin should have won the Rising Star last year, because he's a KP player, while Danyle Pearce is a midfielder.

There has been a gap in form between the two - If you rated all of the midfielders in the AFL, Pendlebury would almost definitely be rated relatively close to the top. If you rated the key defenders in the AFL, Ryder would likely not make the top half, given that on almost every team in the competition, he would be a 3rd option tall defender.

I agree, his comment was silly.

But is Pendlebury honestly in Collingwood's best four mids?
Has be been better than Swan, Lockyer, Burns and Ben Johnson?

I think Pendlebury should and would win the award if it was presented right now, but I don't think your analysis really stacks up.

And I don't think there is much difference between the 2nd and 3rd tall defender in most teams.