Opinion Sack Hinkley 6 - Kochblocked

[philreich]

At this stage, with a spineless board, I'm happy to take short term pain for long term gain.

No other club in the competition would have accepted and persisted through what we have. Even the Crows have shown far more gumption in sacking their coach promptly.

The 'Stability equals success' mantra weve adopted has been the single greatest fallacy in our clubs history and led us down a long dark path where we are completely and utterly stuck in a mid table rut with poor depth, no draft picks coming in, a stale coach and serious list holes everywhere.

Vladimir Putin will win the Nobel Peace Prize before Ken becomes a premiership coach.

 

[Alyx]

I had zero respect for Primus as a coach. Loved him as a player but his team selections were woeful and he had terrible results.

Ah, so you aren't a Hinkley relative after all - you're a Cornes relative.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Primus never dropped Hayes.

He took the personal heat for playing youth and developing the list only for Ken to take credit for what the players did.

 

[PowerBaz]

How the * are we not in the conversation for Clarkson? I just don't get it. The competition for his services is North and GWS. The 2 least sexy roles in the AFL. With s**t lists. I just don't get it.

If somehow he has had a discussion with Port somewhere along the lines already it’s probably a good place to be - out of the frame.

We should be happy with Ken though, remember, it’s exactly how management see us, not crap anymore but good enough to not be sacking coaches, stability….

 

[JimmyBC]

Primus never dropped Hayes.

He took the personal heat for playing youth and developing the list only for Ken to take credit for what the players did.

In hindsight I've softened on Primus' short tenure for sure, playing youth & trying to rebuild on the smell of an oily rag while taking all the bullets is pretty admirable.

 

[PowerBaz]

How the * are we not in the conversation for Clarkson? I just don't get it. The competition for his services is North and GWS. The 2 least sexy roles in the AFL. With s**t lists. I just don't get it.

Probably taking the Brisbane job…

 

[backtozero]

2011 was obviously diabolical.

If you look back at the losses from 2012, the margins aren't that huge. The team was regularly competitive for 3/4 before losing steam in the last.

Kenny has been in charge of plenty of 40+ point losses with far more resources at his disposal.

 

[Ljc_86]

Didn’t anyone else hear the news that Ken wants parts of the gym equipment moved in a cost cutting measure?

Apparently he said the boys can do chin ups off his nips and it will also help create a tighter bond between him and the team.


Seriously though I’m flat there’s no second sticker to wake up to.

 

[PowerLil]

In hindsight I've softened on Primus' short tenure for sure, playing youth & trying to rebuild on the smell of an oily rag while taking all the bullets is pretty admirable.

I've always been a supporter of Matty. Was dealt an absolute sh*t sandwich of a hand and played it with dignity and made the hard calls for the betterment of the club and not himself. Loved the PAFC and put it first. The complete opposite of Ken Hinkley. His tenure at Port should be expunged.

 

[Del165198]

At least we are higher on the ladder than the Crows. Go the Power.


How do we get rid of these idiots who think the peak of success is being 'better than da crows'.

We almost need another loss to them so these ****ing morons get the picture

 

[mynameissilver]

In hindsight I've softened on Primus' short tenure for sure, playing youth & trying to rebuild on the smell of an oily rag while taking all the bullets is pretty admirable.

The sack Primus brigade was a thing back then. Maybe memories have faded

 

[philreich]

Lmao 72 points, as if we were close

Yep, and England were a mere 3 wins away from winning the Ashes......

Is the SACK HINKLEY sign back up yet? If not, why not?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Let's not romanticise Primus's coaching era. He was a good bloke who was in way over his head.

Yes he played youth, but with no discernible structure or gameplan. His match day strategy was to play like the last team that had beaten our match day opponents.

With more resources he would have been a well resourced good bloke who was in way over his head.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Primus got 2 seasons when the club was on its knees in the middle of a rebuild.

He made hard calls on players and understood his role was to get games into the kids. He understood what supporters expected and he regularly acknowledged that we weren't performing up to the expected standards and included himself as part of that.

Ken Hinkley blames everyone but himself after 8 years of underperforming with a mature list.

We post regularly on here that it's not just about the performances with these frauds in charge, it's the gutless, gaslighting messaging. Promising the world, serving up shit sandwich after shit sandwich and then telling us we're lucky to have the shit sandwich.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

My god i cannot wait for the next installment. Lets elevate this to ridiculous levels.

Sure a few people from BigFooty would be happy to get together and come up with ideas.....

 

[MrPlow]

I can’t recall who first said this but it still resonates with me

For a club with such a successful 150+ year history, why does the current administration choose to focus on 2012, at our lowest ever point

 

[PowerBaz]

Just one loss away to see what the clubs actually thinking.

 

[PowerBaz]

I can’t recall who first said this but it still resonates with me

For a club with such a successful 150+ year history, why does the current administration choose to focus on 2012, at our lowest ever point

That’s the recent shitty part.

 

[MrPlow]

That’s the recent shitty part.

Emphasis on 2012 is used to lower expectations of the club, to scare people into believing that anything other than what the club is saying or doing risks going back to the “dark days”. It’s manipulative behaviour for self-preservation and maintenance of the status quo

 

[El Zorro]

Primus coached a club on the brink of folding. He had no resources and had to deal with a lot of internal and external pressure. I think he deserves a lot most respect than what he gets from some (including Kornes). However, he had to go. We'll never know if he would've been a good coach with more resources. After all, he never got another deal and didn't even manage to stay as an assistant at the GC.

Hinkley was effectively the best we could get at the time. He got more resources, got us to a competitive level. After 5 years, his job was done and should've been moved on. He is a transition coach that stayed past his useful time.

 

[MrMeaner]

Ken Hinkley blames everyone but himself after 8 years of underperforming with a mature list.

This is the key for me. It's consistent but the glaring example is the prelim. To come out after a loss like that, where it was clear that our preparation was shockingly lacking and our strategy non-existent, and say your would have changed a thing was unforgivable.

Then, there are the games that run to the exact same script of chaotic pressure keeping us in a game until it doesn't. The opposition gets a run on, which we cannot stop. Then, when the pressure is off, someone goes into god-mode for a bit to get us back into the game, before we fade due to the gap being too much to bridge without exhausting ourselves. For that to happen one or two times is bad luck. For it to happen consistently is a failure of planning, preparation and strategy: all on the coaches. And yet, the coach focuses on skill errors caused by fatigue or players not trying hard enough for long enough.

It's time to end tenure of the responsibility-shirking bloke in charge. Actually, it's time to end the tenure of both of them.

 

[JimmyBC]

The sack Primus brigade was a thing back then. Maybe memories have faded

I remember and I wasn't sad to see him go I think he was out of his depth purely on the coaching front, however I think the aspect I outlined is valid looking back.

The coach at ground zero of a crisis/rebuild rarely survives someone has to sacrifice themselves, hindsight is easy I know but he certainly had the right idea about a few things.. Pity he didn't get his wish of both Cornes brothers out the door.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I like Primus but he absolutely had to go, it just looks mildly harsh in retrospect given his successor was allowed to set all-time enduring mediocrity records.

 

[Us against the rest]

Primus coached a club on the brink of folding. He had no resources and had to deal with a lot of internal and external pressure. I think he deserves a lot most respect than what he gets from some (including Kornes). However, he had to go. We'll never know if he would've been a good coach with more resources. After all, he never got another deal and didn't even manage to stay as an assistant at the GC.

Hinkley was effectively the best we could get at the time. He got more resources, got us to a competitive level. After 5 years, his job was done and should've been moved on. He is a transition coach that stayed past his useful time.

When you consider what Primus had to work with and the state of the club finances and the overall situation and compare that to what West Coast And North have today, he did a dam good job, what's the excuse for those two clubs.

 

[PAFC27]

Where were the happy clappers during the Primus era? They love telling supporters off for not being TRUE BELIEVERS but how does our average home game attendance jump by over 20,000 since? Hypocrites for the most part